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Phil Ivey No Longer On Top 10 All Time Money List

Tags: Dan Smith, Jason Koon, Phil Ivey, Steve ODwyer
Posted on 20 March 2019 by "T".
Every poker fan or player is familiar with the name of Phil Ivey, an American living legend who has won 10 WSOP bracelets and dubbed by Wikipedia as the unofficial best poker player in the world. As Ivey continues to keep his standards high and mainly focuses his gameplay on high-stakes cash games instead of participating from time to time at tournaments, it has now resulted to the 42-year-old [...]   Read more » Phil Ivey No Longer On Top 10 All Time Money List

  20-Mar-19, 11:08   #1
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CALICUL 
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This thing is happening because Phil Ivey has not been performing well in recent years. The processes where he was accused of cheating made Ivey to lose a lot of time, money and nerves. If Ivey pays his debt and plays poker, he can return to the top 10 of all time money list but now depends only on what he can do. The future will tell us what will happen to his career.

     
  20-Mar-19, 12:19   #2
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Mober 
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Not a surprise at all, he fell down the ladder. Probably that was the reason
why he started doing what he did with the casinos.
Because he wasnt doing good by playing poker.
He wanted some quick money and who knows even to use it for poker
games buy ins Smile

     
  20-Mar-19, 15:56   #3
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pajalnick 

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It's okay that Phil Ivey flew out of the Top 10 .... just at the moment He earns Cash games ... probably with a view to deal with payments to the court ... I think soon he will again play in tournaments ... and will occupy the place that should be occupied by right .... everything will be fine

     
  20-Mar-19, 17:01   #4
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Nightkid 
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Well this the truth did not know and ugly that you get off the top 10 but good also depends a lot on your last years not won or status to the height to be able to maintain a position among the best but I encourage that you can still recover Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  20-Mar-19, 17:21   #5
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Gerimantas 
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Yes this is of course situation because he not play official tournament many times, maybe not play at all in future, he wins more money when play high stakes games woth people who are not big poker professional but just have many money

     
  20-Mar-19, 22:25   #6
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bowie1984 

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Posted by Gerimantas:
Yes this is of course situation because he not play official tournament many times, maybe not play at all in future, he wins more money when play high stakes games woth people who are not big poker professional but just have many money

Buuut... He kinda not involved in all those ultra-high highstakes games, like at all. Neither publicly nor privately.

     
  21-Mar-19, 08:45   #7
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doubletop777 
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I would love to be on this list!!! I do not think that it is any surprise that Phil Ivey has dropped down the rankings because he doesn't seem to play in as many of these super high roller tournaments has the rest of these people

     
  21-Mar-19, 11:09   #8
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Another absurd vote with minus but Phil Ivey results in recent years have not been satisfactory. Here i do not refer to those casinos where he cheated. I'm referring to his poker results in the last years, where he did not perform so well. His last bracelet was won five years ago and large amounts of money in these years 2014-2019 were not won by Phil Ivey, with few exceptions. He has no good results, as in the past...

     
  21-Mar-19, 13:08   #9
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Mober 
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In order to have some results you have to play the game.
And he doesnt play poker that often any more.
It has been quite som years now, that every time he plays, it is in the news
somewhere. And you can see that this is rare. Thus the casino schemes,
to earn some extra income...

     
  21-Mar-19, 13:11   #10
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dule-vu 

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probably he didnt play so much after this problem with 10 millions and court,he spent lot of time and money on it and everything changed!ofcourse every year we have bigger and bigger tournaments,more money are on them and its not same to win some tournament 10 years ago and to win in 2019.!poker changed in every way!

     
  23-Mar-19, 17:53   #11
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bowie1984 

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Okay, I mean who am I to criticise him, but... He is probably no longer living off his former poker achievements moneywise, he lives on what he earned via bookdeals and product endorsements, investments etc. That is why he is no longer relevant on the list IMO.
Also probably making more money with private cashgames in Macau etc. than anything any toruney could offer him anymore.

Edited by bowie1984 (23 March 2019 @ 17:59 GMT)


     
  24-Mar-19, 11:21   #12
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Mober 
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He must have limited his expenses, for quite some time now.
Such players cant start doing anything else after a point.
So either he will keep earning money by this or will be burned.
As noted above, he might be earning money in private games.
Not easy to find details about such games publicly.

     
  24-Mar-19, 12:49   #13
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Nightkid 
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the truth does not know the reason or because this man stopped being among the 10 best ... but I hope that it is not for some serious problem nothing else, and hopefully when you can resume recover your position Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  24-Mar-19, 20:41   #14
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dule-vu 

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if he pay this big amount of 10 millions and then he back to play live poker,he will be in short time on top 10 list of earnings,but if he dont do that,then he will not be on this list for long time or maybe never more!time will show on which position he will come!

     
  25-Mar-19, 11:19   #15
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It's painful for Phil Ivey to pay this amount of money. If he was a very rich man, he would get into this situation. Now he is upset and very disappointed but the law will not change. If he has influential friends it would be good for him but he does not friends with big power like politicians to be helped.

     
  25-Mar-19, 17:32   #16
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bowie1984 

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Posted by dule-vu:
if he pay this big amount of 10 millions and then he back to play live poker,he will be in short time on top 10 list of earnings,but if he dont do that,then he will not be on this list for long time or maybe never more!time will show on which position he will come!

He will never pay back that money, mark my words...

     
  26-Mar-19, 06:45   #17
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dule-vu 

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yes,I think also as you!he will not back this money,but his career in poker then is over!he can only play private tournaments in some country,but to play on live tournament,especially in america,he is finished with that!he knewt that from star of problem!

     
  26-Mar-19, 13:49   #18
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Mober 
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If he gives back to the casino the 10 millions, you think he will be back soon
in the top 10?
I doubt he has the money, to give it back in the first place, but even if he does,
with how much will be left afterwards?
Will he be able to enter big tournaments where the big money is?
I dont think so...

     
  26-Mar-19, 14:57   #19
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StheP 

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Posted by Mober:
Not a surprise at all, he fell down the ladder. Probably that was the reason
why he started doing what he did with the casinos.
Because he wasnt doing good by playing poker.
He wanted some quick money and who knows even to use it for poker
games buy ins Smile

he is doing preaty well in poker... just he isnt playing so much... thats why he fall out of top 10....

     
  27-Mar-19, 13:58   #20
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Mober 
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You can say he is doing good considering that in the position he is now
he has according to the chart 28 millions in winnings.
Which is a great amount of course.
Plus the 10 millions from the casino story... Smile So if you add that up,
it takes him up the ladder Smile

     
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