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  18-Apr-19, 21:35   #1
Bad queens.. 0 
maragatero 
Joined: Oct '16
Location: Argentina
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 1814
I think that I didn´t know how to drop this hand in time...

S&G 10 players
888 Poker - 75/150 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 17.2 BB
CO: 16.7 BB
Hero (BTN): 24.97 BB
SB: 6.3 BB
BB: 8.93 BB
UTG: 16.37 BB
UTG+1: 9.53 BB

7 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.2 BB) Hero has Q:spade: Q:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 6.2 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 5.2 BB

Flop: (14.6 BB, 2 players) 3:club: 8:diamond: A:club:
CO bets 10.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (35.4 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:

River: (35.4 BB, 2 players) 5:spade:

CO wins 35.4 BB

     
  19-Apr-19, 11:59   #2
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pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 6190
I go to the forum today and see 5 messages from you .... this is a new method to get points for a message or this is some other story .... I am for a message I am for new topics do not get any points ... therefore if I I create a message then this is definitely not because of the points .... maybe you have a different story

     
  19-Apr-19, 18:40   #3
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 6677
Preflop a slightly smaller bet would do it for me, but it is difficult to judge the call on the flop. The line how the CO had played looks a lot like an ace, so one can let the hand go at that point, unless opponent is very bluffy.

     
  19-Apr-19, 22:50   #4
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 1165
I bet the CO had AT or AJ, i bet if he had AK with 1/3 of his stack to call the raise i would have gone allin with AK preflop, but he just call, so i think its AT or AJ, mb even pocket 8`s or 3`s, your problem with preflop game was u invited him to play, why bet 6BB with QQ`s preflop, why not allin thats first mistake, second right after the flop he goes allin and you stare at an Ace on the flop, what did you think he can go allin with at this point? Big Smile deuces Big Smile
You should have gone allin pre, that alone sends a message, "i got KK or AA" and if u have any Ax hand or small pocket pair just fold, and i bet you 99% he would have folded, but if u are setting a trap with QQ`s go slow, 3BB bet pre, Cbet after the flop to see where u stand with the Ace on the flop and go from there, anf if u have a big push you know you are losing to the Ace and fold, its a hard fold, but u can still survive this hand and fight another day

     
  20-Apr-19, 01:09   #5
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maragatero 
Joined: Oct '16
Location: Argentina
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 1814
As I said, I didn´t know to drop my beautiful queens. At that moment I think that the villain had a little pocket pair like 44 or 66, and when he was committed he tried to bluff me. He was playing with strange moves, calling preflop and dropping to cbet in flop, so I think that he was doing a bluff change...but I had to drop these queens!

     
  20-Apr-19, 04:47   #6
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SBEP 

Joined: Nov '14
Location: Macedonia, The former Yugoslav Republic of
Age: 39 (M)
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What did he had? Coz in the hand review it doesn't say to what hand did u lose...

     
  20-Apr-19, 09:34   #7
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damosk 
Joined: Feb '11
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 5604
It’s always difficult to let go of a good starting hand, however the simple rule to remember is that in the absence of any other supporting proof, it’s only a good starting hand and can easily be destroyed by the board. A good hand to review and reflect upon for the future. Did the villain have a better hand in the end.Or was your assessment of him correct.

     
  20-Apr-19, 10:15   #8
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 56 (M)
Posts: 1831
Correct!!damosk. Many time I lost like that, especially when A or K show. My ego or ambition often make me couldn't make right or good decision, wish Q would show on turn or river ( very often , right? Smile ) If I have big stack I prefer fold at such condition.

     
  20-Apr-19, 12:30   #9
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pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 6190
when I have a pair on my hands I play enough Carefully so as not to scare off opponents with a high stake ... on the other hand, if the pair is small, then you have to wait for the same card to come to the table .... if your opponent makes bets, it suggests the fact that they already have some combination .... Carefully the game is the key to success .... Good luck in the game

     
  21-Apr-19, 03:32   #10
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maragatero 
Joined: Oct '16
Location: Argentina
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 1814
The villain was a badest player than me, he had K8 club! I had half of the reason, but the half who lose! He made a bad call in the pre-flop, he made a semi-bluff in the flop, and he won for his good variance. But nevertheless, I played a bad call with an ace in the table, I have not to excuse for that fished move Sad

     
  21-Apr-19, 12:54   #11
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pajalnick 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Russian Federation
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 6190
Posted by maragatero:
The villain was a badest player than me, he had K8 club! I had half of the reason, but the half who lose! He made a bad call in the pre-flop, he made a semi-bluff in the flop, and he won for his good variance. But nevertheless, I played a bad call with an ace in the table, I have not to excuse for that fished move Sad

Of course, after the loss occurred, you can think a lot about how to play it was ... but in the end, you are given a solution for only a few seconds .... Of course, you had to fold the cards after seeing that he raises the stakes considering the table was a card older than yours .... one could guess that he has at least a couple of cards that are older than your pair .... but such thoughts come after the game

     
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