A super grinder has earned $107,000 on micro-limit tables where the average buy-in is around $6. He has been seen on 43 tables at the same time on PokerStars. How is this possible many people have been questioning themselves?
Milesaway558 has really got many people`s attention lately when he been killing the game on the micro-limits at PokerStars and made over hundred thousand dollars by playing [...] Read more » Milesaway558: A bot or a genius?
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 2025
id say this is a bot because its impossible. 4 tables is OK and even that can really be pure hectic if theres fast tables, because you try to raise at one table while another table popup in the window. and if you dont react in time you just sit out. ok at pokerstars you have 1min time....but 43 tables ??
Joined: Jun '08
Location: Germany
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 10
Hm...hard to believe that someone can play 43 tables at the same moment. How many monitors does he has to have? And how he does manage to play hard situations. Cant believe he never has to think about a situation if he can call or not. Maybe he plays 12 tables by his own but not 43! Must be bot!
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 188
For one you don't play short handed tables, and especially not heads up. It all depends how many hands you play. You can play solid by the book tight poker on micro limit tables and play about 15-20% of hands, even less if it's really bad opponents that doesn't pick up on it, which is usual on micro stakes. So it is very possible, I mean 10 tables is pretty standard for serious grinders, so why wouldn't people be able to handle a lot more.
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Croatia
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 1308
Here is another one of Khan. Did you all see how Khan knew that guy was bluffing when he was holding AA, he gets them around 5:32 of video linked below, WOW, <=sarcasm. Why don`t you let him bluff at you then, 1on1 holding aces guy is bluffing. LOL
Poker sites should put limit or make bot usage legal, because that`s what he is, living bot. These practices kill the game.
Joined: Feb '08
Location: Canada
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 79
I used to play 25 tables and would not need the "time" feature to get the extra minute. So 43 is definitely possible to do, especially if he had one of those programs that just fold trash hands for you (which i didnt have). Even without it im sure a couple people can do it. The tables he played at probably were 10 handed too which slows the pace of the game.
------------ Edit : I finally had to stop cause I wanted to go to the gym on a strict schedule and concentrate on university at the same time..
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 215
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Posted by Predobar: Here is another one of Khan. Did you all see how Khan knew that guy was bluffing when he was holding AA, he gets them around 5:32 of video linked below, WOW, <=sarcasm. Why don`t you let him bluff at you then, 1on1 holding aces guy is bluffing. LOL
Poker sites should put limit or make bot usage legal, because that`s what he is, living bot. These practices kill the game.
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Denmark
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 2644
Bot or guy playing 43 tables doesn't matter both are easily crushed. Same goes for the short stack bot players on Ipoker Veiovis, Play3r1337, Chanfong, JohnEdvards and Andreo11. They are all losers in my database except Chanfong, two of them are playing so poorly that they are on my buddylist which meens that im actually looking for them when logging in Sadly it seems they are winning rake races, check top 3:
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Denmark
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 2644
Yes my buddy list contains easy money, short and full stack. Really doesn't matter as long as it's easy Im multi tabling so can't be too picky but full stack fish are ofcourse preferable.
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 188
All depends on your pick of table, against a lot of deep stacks short stack strategy is solid poker with a small bank roll. With some smarts though deep stacking is better when you have built up a bigger roll though. But seriously you can't argue with his results, if he plays so bad how come he makes so much more than most other, most probably including you. In the end profit is the measurement of successfull poker.
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Denmark
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 2644
Posted by Whiskerer: All depends on your pick of table, against a lot of deep stacks short stack strategy is solid poker with a small bank roll. With some smarts though deep stacking is better when you have built up a bigger roll though. But seriously you can't argue with his results, if he plays so bad how come he makes so much more than most other, most probably including you. In the end profit is the measurement of successfull poker.
I was talking about the Ipoker shortstack bots, they play so bad. Short stacking will never get solid cause you can't play for set/str8/flush value but turn it around and the same goes you can't play them with drawy/set hands cause there is no implied odds in them, So yes they are annoying to play because you have to adapt your game so much to them but if done correctly it can be very profitable playing them. Especially the bots since they are playing so many tables you quickly require their raise/3bet shove range and note it, after that it's money in the bank.
I don't argue with his results, don't know over how long time he made the 107K$ so can't say wether he makes more or less than me but probably more. My point was playing 43 tables he's playing scheme/robot'ish poker which only can be done profitable vs non thinking opponents which you find at 6$ buy-in. Opponents don't adjust to him as they would at higher levels. A player as good as him or nearly could beat him playing less tables but maybe not making more money than him but be a winner vs him.
In the end successful poker is measured same way as any other buissness....profit pr time.
