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New 3p poll.

As around 80% of Russians share European ethnicity and there is no hate for any of the other ethnicities within Russia, what would it take to welcome them all back to the poker, Europe and international worlds?

Quite a bit to be honest, the current government there has trampled neighbours, restricted their citizens, threatened all and sundry for daring to oppose their illegal wars, human rights abuses and crimes against humanity.

Even during the early parts of the USSR some good art, literature, chess theory was allowed to be released, prior to that, the Czars generally travelled Europe, spoke French and English and fostered the world best chess players, academics, some of the finest literature that still exist, some of the greatest thinkers and musicians and for a brief period it looked set to return to its eminence, alas, this is yet to happen and we are further away than ever.

I 3P, hopefully speaking for some or the majority of the BRM users, honestly hope it can happen sooner rather than later, to foster peace and security for all.

     
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its hard to say anything about this,but its bad thing that because of some goverment, players cant play sports, nobody cant travel, people play poker as you say or many other things! normal people are not guilty for those changes that politicians make! I dont think that something will change in next months!

     
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I think Russians cannot play on some poker rooms , like PokerStars for example , but they still can play on other poker rooms on-line, like GG poker . I think 888poker has also banned them , ACR not sure , but I they can play on ACR . Russians all they have to do is a search to see where they can play nowadays . They are not banned from everywhere (thankfully)

Also the same applies for the casino rooms online , some might have banned Russians directly or indirectly , but most I think still welcome Russians as new members to register to their casino online

     
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I played with Russian players in 2022, but for few months i haven't looked at which country all the players come from

     
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Agree with all of the above.

GG is basically Chinese so as China has nothing to say about the War so Russian's can play there, that's not really "Internationally" though.

Apparently Putin can do anything he wants and China will say at most "We prefer peace" and do nothing except buy cheap oil and gas.


     
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ok, we all know what china will say about russia, but also its good that russian players can play on some site, its not their fault for everything that happens in world and that they are out of many things! ofcourse always "small" people get what rest of world want to do to one man! if this war will continue for long time, we will see will they continue with restrictions for russian or they will change something!

     
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Welcome back and gl! Dollar Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

     
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rogerio you mean on who?

     
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what does it mean "European ethnicity"???

     
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I think he is talking about white people

     
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Oh I know how it exist under the "made in USA" label
1)"illegal wars" is "peace enforcement"
2)"human rights abuses" is "democracy abuses"
3)"crimes against humanity" is "collateral damage"

why were you silent before and not "to foster peace and security for all"
disgusting hypocrisy

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i think not
"European ethnicity and there is no hate for any of the other ethnicities within Russia"



all other ethnicities within Russia are white people or asian

Edited by portbet (26 January 2023 @ 01:43 GMT)


     
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Well most of modern Russia from circa >800ad are either Kiev-rus or Slavic, both of which are European ethnicities.

I probably should of said ~99% (have) no hate for any of the other ethnicities within Russia, as there are scumbag's and murdak's lurking everywhere unfortunately. Those who cause 90% of the s**t that happens that affect all the normal, good and reasonable peoples.

Re the other post:
1. I suppose all wars are illegal from at least one stand-point, even if "authorised" by the UN, however, Putin has been doing this since at least 2008, with Georgia plus a lot more "soft diplomacy" interfering with democracies, neighbours, delaying compliance with Moldova etc etc, every couple of years he invades or sends "Peace keepers" to somewhere where they do not want them.
2. Illegal detentions, poisoning, disappearances, torture, lgbt+ rights etc etc and failure to comply with statute the USSR and Russia signed before his time is a few of the many Human rights abuses under his watch.
3. Targeting playgrounds, freezing civilians are not collateral damage and again, Russia has signed agreements to prohibit such actions, although not signed to the ICC so hard to prosecute for the same.

     
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I hope that both mobsters don't start a political conflict here, because sometimes are different opinions. Is better to talk about games. Good luck to each with your games. Big Smile

     
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Posted by portbet:
why were you silent before and not "to foster peace and security for all"
disgusting hypocrisy


Not sure what his bit is supposed to mean?
If it is directed at me, I am rarely silent, lol.
If a reference to Putin's false narrative about the expansion of NATO, the only threat there was removing Putin's ability to interfere and send his "Peace keepers" to States that do not want them.
No hypocrisy here!


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Posted by CALICUL:
I hope that both mobsters don't start a political conflict here, because sometimes are different opinions. Is better to talk about games. Good luck to each with your games. Big Smile


Thanks CALICUL, for both this and previous posts, no conflict this end, political or otherwise, I just seek some engagement in a discussion.
Note: This thread was placed in "Off-topic" to allow such.

Edited by 3pokeronly (26 January 2023 @ 03:43 GMT)


     
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3pokeronly and what about usa and when they want to separate kosovo from serbia?

     
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Posted by dule-vu:
3pokeronly and what about usa and when they want to separate kosovo from serbia?


Why "usa" they did not start any of the multitude of wars, including R vs Y, Y vs S, Y vs K, S vs C, S vs K, and those 5 are all since 1991, all State sponsored + another multitude of unsanctioned independence movements.

There does seem to be some history of a separate Kosovo State circa 4th century BC, then being invaded every little while by everyone.
The break up of Yugoslavia was really messy, as you are probably well aware of. Serbia does not want to lose Kosovo both as some Serbs live there and it is resource rich and tactically important.
Kosovar Albanian's have had a horrible time with huge disparity and subjugation.
At UN level, 101 of 193 States have recognised it, including the US, which creates some legitimacy, however negotiations are ongoing, regarding travel, oil, military, driver licences and car plates (FFS) etc, so its still a bit of a mess.
So in many ways it mirrors Croatia and its struggle for independence and the need for it to be seen as equals and command its own destiny and I lean a bit that way and can see no reason Serbia needs to see it as a. a vassal state (other than power/greed) and b. a threat.
It is small though, however, as part of the EU it could be a win-win for all (except Serbian pride and nationalists).

Sorry, don't know that much about the details though.

     
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Where americans come it can be good for that country! You can see how afghanistan look now or libya or any other country that they come!
kosovo have any legitimacy and its not country! Its part of serbia! You have un resolution 1244, but nobody care about it! If they can take kosovn, why russia can take crimea?

     
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Name one peaceful decade in Afghanistan with or without US? Never happened.
Libya is self-inflicted, UK educated son of dictator promised democracy, peeps said good lets do it, he gassed them, i.e. International War Crime and Human Rights violation, the UN can not do nothing, like Srebrenica, blamed if they do, blamed if they don't.

Previous resolutions guaranteed peace, didn't happen. Discussions were supposed to continue with greater autonomy as a minimum. US did not "take" kosovo.

Apples and oranges with Crimea though, if Crimea wanted and discussed and voted and declared independence from Ukraine and became a separate State and Ukraine made war and restricted access, rights etc that would be closer to the current situation in Kosovo.

Russia have no business or international claim on Crimea since Ukrainian independence, both Putin and Russia said the same and then in 2014, little green men....

     
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yes, usa did took kosovo from serbia, thats why they have flags of usa on half of kosovo, statue of bill clinton, camp bondsteel and many other things! they even made "racak" that they can start war and bombing of serbia.

     
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Posted by 3pokeronly:
Well most of modern Russia from circa >800ad are either Kiev-rus or Slavic, both of which are European ethnicities.

So what? their belonging to European ethnicity is the reason for: "what would it take to welcome them all back to the , Europe and international worlds?"
if they didn't belong to the European ethnicity, you would be silent further?
do you treat people with different ethnicities differently?
Are you a Nazi?


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Posted by 3pokeronly:
I suppose all wars are illegal from at least one stand-point, even if "authorised" by the UN, however, Putin has been doing this since at least 2008, with Georgia plus a lot more "soft diplomacy" interfering with democracies, neighbours, delaying compliance with Moldova etc etc, every couple of years he invades or sends "Peace keepers" to somewhere where they do not want them.

So what?
one well-known state did this many, many times before 2008. why didn't you say anything? where is your sympathy for the collateral damage? where are your BRM posts for example?

Edited by portbet (27 January 2023 @ 01:48 GMT)


     
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