Joined: Dec '08
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
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Hello,
after playing SnG or Cashtables i played my 1st Tournament today it was a turbo holdem 5$ buy in with ~200 people playing.
after playing 3-5 hands the people changed to play tv-poker almost every hand was an all in preflop. i try to play my way and if i raise the blind after dealing one other set all in. in my opinon is it the correct way to say ok.. i raised with my cards and go all in too because this is a sign of strength. in this situations i raised with good cards or a pocketpair. i won 4 situations but the key situations i lost... as i was table leader ~3000 i called small-stack all in with A10 ( yes my lovely ones ) and seemed to be the winner until river .. then he got his flush after losing a "normal" play i got in misery and called an all in with 8-8 and again winner until river and he got his flush after some losing/winning hands i was down 350 and in my eyes dead so i called an all in with 5-5 and blast out of the tournament as #73 with his 7-7going to a full house
so in your eyes.. whats about this all-in-festival at tournaments early stage? i would accept it if i reached the payed ranks ( after 20mins there were only 100 of 200 left ^^ )
And is it weak or strong to call an all-in after you raised your hand
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
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Turbo and tight do not match. You have to loosen up your game in a turbo tourney or the blinds will eat you alive. So one can expect that the push or fold modus starts quite early in the tournament.
Joined: May '08
Location: Hungary
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It depends on what's your hand. In turbo tournaments, you can't wait always for AA and KK, you should take more risk with weaker hands. Was this a rebuy tournament? Because in turbo rebuy tournaments you need a lot of luck, not just skill, in my opinion.
i left the Finaltable as Number 3 winning a prize of 100
( maybe would be #2 but called preflop all in with A7s against AA and that kicked me to 4000pts against ~70k and ~110k and it was over - but i like turbo.. it took 1hr 10min to reach the finaltable and more 15min to get 3rd of 167 - in a cash game i wouldnt see this money in the same time)
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
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You rely on luck too much on turbo, your best option IMO is to play all strong hands in late position A9+ KT+ PAIRS, etc. providing there is no shove or big raise before you. people do try to get it in with marginal hands and I find these hands hold up quite well in late position after you make a decent rasie.
Joined: Feb '09
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I don't like TURBOs because of the issue with the luck...you really need to play more risky hands there...it's great to win such a tournament but don't forget that you may be not so lucky playing the next one...so I would recommend to play normal tournaments. By the way, it doesn't matter that you can't win so much money in a cash game for 1.5 hours noow, because if you theoretically prepared and play well you'll be able to win such amounts every day after couple of months.
Joined: Dec '08
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Posted by Caesar: I don't like TURBOs because of the issue with the luck...you really need to play more risky hands there...it's great to win such a tournament but don't forget that you may be not so lucky playing the next one...so I would recommend to play normal tournaments. By the way, it doesn't matter that you can't win so much money in a cash game for 1.5 hours noow, because if you theoretically prepared and play well you'll be able to win such amounts every day after couple of months.
yeah luck... i remember the key situation to take me 1 place behind the stackleader i held Q-Q and called preflop an all in, 2 others called all in too, so a nice smackdown started me Q-Q two others holding A-K and the last A-7 and the board was showing only to 1 something : one 7 so all the pot came to me and 2 of them both A-K were out of the Tournament.. the A-7 gone to mini-stack
in cashgames i play at 0,05/0,10 or 0,10/0,10 tables the pot is max ~12$ .. with psycho´s sometimes ~20$ my biggest pot in a cashgame was omaha game holding flushdraw with A high and guaranteed 2pair AA/88 with the flop.. i called 15$ by a player on tilt after the flop and hit the flush on the turn, but i washonest and only bet 5$ he called and the pot of 43$ came to me