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  28-Feb-09, 20:28   #21
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 6704
Posted by awood88:
I agree with whiskerer. so much worse when you make a good bluff that no respecting player would possibly call but some idiot calls with bottom pair. you know the hand where someone raises preflop, theres a call and then you call with position. flop comes 776 so you can be pretty sure no ones hit. you bluff and get called and turn is a ten. you've got nothing and want to take the pot now before another scare card so your all in. the only thing you can put your opponent on to call is a ten. but he calls with a pair of 3s. there's no way he could make that call the way you played the hand. thats more annoying than a bad beat because you can forgive bad luck. bad beats are meant to happen. stupid players with no regard for their own money ruin the game.


Never bluff a monkey. Cool

If you know other players are likely to call with weak hands, don't bluff. Value bet!

     
  28-Feb-09, 21:31   #22
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xxxbchxxx 

Joined: Nov '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 2194
I had a whole night like that last night....
I did everything right and still lost to so many dumb players...
At times like this i like to test myself at a higher level (just for a few games)..
I'm often supprised at the difference in style through the levels

     
  28-Feb-09, 22:13   #23
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GeneYuss 

Joined: Jan '08
Location: Canada
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 2697
You should like players who don't know when to fold and take advantage of them. Because in the long run, the math will play out. But it does hurt when you get a bad beat Sad

     
  1-Mar-09, 03:58   #24
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dunotra 

Joined: Oct '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 60 (M)
Posts: 2193
What do I hate most: That hast to be me when I start to sober up....apart from that it will have to be the twat I had a fight with in a bar last night... hope he gets out of hospitle OK .

     
  1-Mar-09, 08:50   #25
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bless9 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Finland
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 328
Players who dont know when to fold

I got AA

and raise

flop 3 (spade) 7 10 (spade)

I raise this guy calls

turn 2 (spade)

I call , he calls

river 9 (spade)

I raise he calls

he got flush spades, shows 1 spade (some low card it was) , and 9

How did he play that hand with no hand, one spade he had, and flop gave two more

at this this point he still had no hand. and he still called Shock

And then next two last where spades Evil

     
  1-Mar-09, 10:48   #26
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joulukinkku 

Joined: Dec '08
Location: Finland
Age: 34 (M)
Posts: 168
Quite often I have met that kind of players at the table who just calls everything and can´t fold. Sometimes it piss you off when they hit on river just like KK pair and you got QQ but also quite often you get lots of money from that kind of players so it could be good or a bad thing. Confused

     
  1-Mar-09, 13:01   #27
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boyndahood 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: Latvia
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 178
i really hate to lose, and to players who don't know when to fold i have lost a lot, so they must learn when to fold, when i'm bluffing LOL Cool

     
  1-Mar-09, 13:05   #28
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 6704
Posted by boyndahood:
i really hate to lose, and to players who don't know when to fold i have lost a lot, so they must learn when to fold, when i'm bluffing LOL Cool


Just type in the chat "please fold, i am bluffing". It should help. Cool

     
  1-Mar-09, 14:39   #29
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MANUEDO 
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Italy
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 1955
As for me badbeat all life long !!!!

You can't avoid a badbeat even if, in most cases, it depends on the opponent who

doesn't know how to fold Tongue Tongue Tongue

But often when your opponent is a donkey idiot you can boost him very easily Big Smile Big Smile

     
  1-Mar-09, 17:00   #30
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delboy76 

Joined: Sep '07
Location: Denmark
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 10
That would give doomdy a fullhouse Blink

     
  1-Mar-09, 18:08   #31
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B1gfoot 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6714
Well thats an easy one, Players who dont know when to fold has a lot of votes??
answer for me is the bad beat as the Players who dont know when to fold only make me more money.

     
  1-Mar-09, 23:45   #32
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M3turbo 
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Denmark
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 2644
Posted by B1gfoot:
Well thats an easy one, Players who dont know when to fold has a lot of votes??
answer for me is the bad beat as the Players who dont know when to fold only make me more money.


The other way around you could say, you only get bad beats when oponent doesn't know how to fold Tongue

     
  2-Mar-09, 05:55   #33
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ChoonT 

Joined: Dec '08
Location: Germany
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 522
yes i love players dont know if better to fold..
going up 100BB ( ok i was fishing at 0,05/0,10 Evil ) in PL Omaha few minutes ago in less than 5 hands
.. do you think they fold if they can smell a full house or should i noise the boat -horn Tongue
they see the multiple straight-draw and they call valuebet with 2 pair....

     
  2-Mar-09, 06:29   #34
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preedator76 

Joined: Feb '09
Location: Spain
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 232
bad beats

BUMP...

Smile

     
  2-Mar-09, 12:42   #35
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bughime 
Joined: Nov '08
Location: Romania
Age: 29 (M)
Posts: 49
he might have thought you were bluffing Big Smile

     
  2-Mar-09, 15:59   #36
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magatt966 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 3851
i hate both, for me often bad beat are correlated with never folding donkeys. but i hate more bad beats cause usually calling machines give us their money

     
  2-Mar-09, 19:06   #37
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 31 (M)
Posts: 1885
For me a bad beat is when you get someone to make the right moves when you have the best hand and then you get unlucky with the following cards. The person who gave you the bad beat didn't necessarily play bad. We've all dished them out as well as taken them. Poker is a game of chance so bad beats are part of the game. If we had no chance of hitting the miracle card then poker wouldn't be half as good.

No one should complain about bad beats. Get angry at the end of the hand but don't let it ruin your play or your day.

Now idiots and jackass players are not in my opinion good for the game. Players who play terribly and still manage to get lucky are far more annoying. You say you should be able to outplay them but you can't because they turn the game into bingo. No matter how much they lose these people still have money to burn. You see them in rebuy tourneys constantly going all in stopping you from playing skillfully.

I'd rather play a good game with good players and lose all my money than play poker with a table full of donks.

     
  2-Mar-09, 19:17   #38
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abarr 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 43
badbeats i hate them. I just finished 4th in 4 10 man sng in a row. And everyone i was sucked out on the river while ahead. i even called three of the cards that beat me. Just finished putting my mouse back together Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

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Posted by bless9:
Players who dont know when to fold

I got AA

and raise

flop 3 (spade) 7 10 (spade)

I raise this guy calls

turn 2 (spade)

I call , he calls

river 9 (spade)

I raise he calls

he got flush spades, shows 1 spade (some low card it was) , and 9

How did he play that hand with no hand, one spade he had, and flop gave two more

at this this point he still had no hand. and he still called Shock

And then next two last where spades Evil



I would almost def have lost my chat privalages here Angry Big Smile Big Smile

Edited by abarr (02 March 2009 @ 19:23 GMT)


     
  3-Mar-09, 01:04   #39
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Raggamann 
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Germany
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 153
what i hate most are players who give you a badbeat and then tell you they've made everything right. giving and taking badbeats is just normal when you play poker, but you should be able to know if its a badbeat or not.
for me its harder to lose with AA vs 22 than vs KK, because i can undstand someone calling a preflop all-in with KK (especially in SnGs and MTTs or at very loose CG-tables), but in most cases i cannot understand the guy with 22 because the best he can hope for is a coinflip even against a complete bluff

     
  3-Mar-09, 23:05   #40
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weakminded 

Joined: Sep '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 442
A BAD BEAT !!!

played for about 5 hours today, lost 4 buy ins

AA against 8Ts (he got a straight on the river)
KK against 9J (he got the straight on the turn)
AA against JJ (he flopped a set)
AK against K9 (flopped K he hits 9 on the river) (lost half stack)
AA against 2 guys who got KJ (flop was KJ5)

what a day what a day. all (except AK against K9) were preflop all in. I tought I was getting monster hands, but they all got cracked one after the other, so frustrating.
Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

     
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