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You can only calculate the EV if you get called. The fold equity you have to guess. Some players will never lay down a top pair hand, other will put you on that draw. Both types of players will call all the time.
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I am not really good at this EV thingy, but difficult to say depends wot flush draw, you can hold nut flushdraw or lower so EV will be total diffirent right? But with the ace flush draw it will be 50% plus everytime oponent folds and collect the pot cos you go allin (am i right?) So i guess its EV+ in cashgame, in SNG/MTT its totally diffirent.
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@ doomdy
You know the math and principle strategy for playing double or nothing SnGs. Obviously you know them well - hence you bank roll.
Cash games are very different - you must be able to estimate your equity in every pot and from that decide whether a call fold or raise is going to be the most profitable. Estimating the quality of your opponents hand also plays a big part in this calculation
for example;
If you believe your opponent will not fold their hand then raising your draws ( virtually all of them except your monster draws with over cards ) . will be a -ev play and if they start raising, you must consider a fold if your odds for calling and getting paid off when you hit are poor.
This EV thingy can help you more with playing the regular SnGs where 1st gets half the money as playing to get all the chips is more important than just surviving. However I believe you can still do OK without it. Cash games though you will lose at all but the lowest stakes without it.
What did Greenstein say: "Math is idiotic" - God I hate this phrase.
This is a phrase invented by Barrys' son to make himself feel better about his inability or laziness to get to grips with it.
