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I recently started playing DoN SNG's and my winnings have been going up steadily but i want to learn more. Does anybody know of any good strategies online or perhaps videos?
Preferably freebies Tongue
Help would be appreciated

     
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Hi there, another pro from belgium Blink

This post i found on the net at another forum (cant put the link in here):

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Early Game Tactics

- To open from early position, you need a very strong hand. I would recommend opening only with big pairs and possibly AK from very early position. Feel free to play a wider range of hands in late position if your opponents in the blinds are 16-tabling regulars that are only playing 10% of the time or less against a raise.

- It is very seldom correct to flat call. In general, re-raising or folding is the most appropriate avenue to take.

- Don't do too much set mining. In most games, set mining requires approximately 11-1 to 15-1 implied odds to profitably try. However with the difference between cEV and $EV being as great as it is (as in the example of risking $10 to win $5.55), you now need 20-1 to 24-1 implied odds to set mine! Therefore, as a general rule, don't set mine, even at the early levels, unless you are limping behind in late position in a multi-way pot.

- Your main motive at this level should be to preserve your stack, because if you succeed in doing so, this offers you the chance to threaten a large raise at the later levels. If you can maintain even just 1300-1400 chips, you'll really put the pressure on even a bigger stack to fold in the later stages. Also, tighter play may earn your raises some respect later in the game when that respect might make the difference.


Mid Game Tactics

- Once the antes have kicked in, the incentive to steal blinds is much greater. While the antes seem small, in relation to the blinds they are actually very great. By the time 50-100 rolls around, stealing blinds becomes an important strategy to preserve your stack.

- Be aware that the shortest stacks will need to make a stand, and as a general rule, avoid playing pots where you are not at least 70% to win. This is especially important in games where more than two players have busted.

- Fighting and losing against a big stack is a disaster at this point if your stack is healthy. With a healthy stack, you generally need to win 80-85% of your pots against them. Keep in mind that usually amounts to calling with AA only, and sometimes, not even that!


Endgame Tactics

- With 6 players remaining, so long as you are not in last place, the value of your chips is likely 85% of the final prize or greater. In a $10 SNG what that means to you is that your chips are worth approximately $17 to you, even though the prize is $20. Given this, calling shoves with even aces is often borderline, and definitely a no go if you are in 4th or better.

- If you have a large stack, it is NOT your responsibility to eliminate players. Your responsibility to yourself is to finish top 5. Don't worry about calling with exceptional pot odds, or whatever. Your main priority is to avoid disaster. There will be times that raising or shoving is still appropriate, especially if a regular is sitting on a lot of chips behind you.

- Push wide into regulars who are intelligent enough to fold, and push very tight against loose players when your stack is healthy. It is your responsibility to range the potential caller(s). There are many situations where pushing any two is correct against regulars, and pushing only the top 15% of starting hands or so is correct against others. Therefore you cannot solely rely on proper ICM recommendations, and/or knowing the Nash Equilibrium of a situation. You must adjust, so the slightest difference in an opponent's calling range can often completely change the range you should be pushing with!

- Never limp pre-flop with intent to trap someone into shoving, even with AA. In other types of poker, the advantage of trapping with aces is the strong edge it gives you when you fish someone in. In Double or Nothing events, if you catch someone, you are in a situation where you are 80-85% to win, but you need to win 65-90% of the time just to break even, so your edge isn't large enough to trap. It's hardly a disaster if you raise and win the blinds, and that result will usually be just as favorable to your winning chances.

- Time the blinds if you can. At key times, consider stalling to allow the blinds to move up. While this may cause the table to have a vendetta against you, if you can bring the blinds up to the point where someone else is all-in on their BB, you very well might be able to back into a top 5 finish, even with a micro stack!

- If you are in last place, and the player to your left won't fold to your shoves, it may be worth it to make a borderline call on another hand to save your skin.

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Basicly the same who i play but not about the aces, i allways play aces, short, middle or big stack.
And when i am big i call 100% real shortys no matter what cards.

Hows your roll starting?
Where you play?
Best site for DoN is pokerstars i guess (lowest rake).

GL with ur mission Smile

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Posted by doomdy:
Hi there, another pro from belgium Blink

This post i found on the net at another forum (cant put the link in here):

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Early Game Tactics

- To open from early position, you need a very strong hand. I would recommend opening only with big pairs and possibly AK from very early position. Feel free to play a wider range of hands in late position if your opponents in the blinds are 16-tabling regulars that are only playing 10% of the time or less against a raise.

- It is very seldom correct to flat call. In general, re-raising or folding is the most appropriate avenue to take.

- Don't do too much set mining. In most games, set mining requires approximately 11-1 to 15-1 implied odds to profitably try. However with the difference between cEV and $EV being as great as it is (as in the example of risking $10 to win $5.55), you now need 20-1 to 24-1 implied odds to set mine! Therefore, as a general rule, don't set mine, even at the early levels, unless you are limping behind in late position in a multi-way pot.

- Your main motive at this level should be to preserve your stack, because if you succeed in doing so, this offers you the chance to threaten a large raise at the later levels. If you can maintain even just 1300-1400 chips, you'll really put the pressure on even a bigger stack to fold in the later stages. Also, tighter play may earn your raises some respect later in the game when that respect might make the difference.


Mid Game Tactics

- Once the antes have kicked in, the incentive to steal blinds is much greater. While the antes seem small, in relation to the blinds they are actually very great. By the time 50-100 rolls around, stealing blinds becomes an important strategy to preserve your stack.

- Be aware that the shortest stacks will need to make a stand, and as a general rule, avoid playing pots where you are not at least 70% to win. This is especially important in games where more than two players have busted.

- Fighting and losing against a big stack is a disaster at this point if your stack is healthy. With a healthy stack, you generally need to win 80-85% of your pots against them. Keep in mind that usually amounts to calling with AA only, and sometimes, not even that!


Endgame Tactics

- With 6 players remaining, so long as you are not in last place, the value of your chips is likely 85% of the final prize or greater. In a $10 SNG what that means to you is that your chips are worth approximately $17 to you, even though the prize is $20. Given this, calling shoves with even aces is often borderline, and definitely a no go if you are in 4th or better.

- If you have a large stack, it is NOT your responsibility to eliminate players. Your responsibility to yourself is to finish top 5. Don't worry about calling with exceptional pot odds, or whatever. Your main priority is to avoid disaster. There will be times that raising or shoving is still appropriate, especially if a regular is sitting on a lot of chips behind you.

- Push wide into regulars who are intelligent enough to fold, and push very tight against loose players when your stack is healthy. It is your responsibility to range the potential caller(s). There are many situations where pushing any two is correct against regulars, and pushing only the top 15% of starting hands or so is correct against others. Therefore you cannot solely rely on proper ICM recommendations, and/or knowing the Nash Equilibrium of a situation. You must adjust, so the slightest difference in an opponent's calling range can often completely change the range you should be pushing with!

- Never limp pre-flop with intent to trap someone into shoving, even with AA. In other types of poker, the advantage of trapping with aces is the strong edge it gives you when you fish someone in. In Double or Nothing events, if you catch someone, you are in a situation where you are 80-85% to win, but you need to win 65-90% of the time just to break even, so your edge isn't large enough to trap. It's hardly a disaster if you raise and win the blinds, and that result will usually be just as favorable to your winning chances.

- Time the blinds if you can. At key times, consider stalling to allow the blinds to move up. While this may cause the table to have a vendetta against you, if you can bring the blinds up to the point where someone else is all-in on their BB, you very well might be able to back into a top 5 finish, even with a micro stack!

- If you are in last place, and the player to your left won't fold to your shoves, it may be worth it to make a borderline call on another hand to save your skin.

------------------

Basicly the same who i play but not about the aces, i allways play aces, short, middle or big stack.
And when i am big i call 100% real shortys no matter what cards.
Anf for me rule nr1, when blinds are high, BE the raiser NOT the caller!

Hows your roll starting?
Where you play?
Best site for DoN is pokerstars i guess (lowest rake).

GL with ur mission Smile

Edited by doomdy (03 April 2009 @ 08:50 GMT)


     
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Thank you so much for the help Smile
I'll be reading trough it in just a second, if you could perhaps pm me with the link? Would be greatly appreciated aswell Big Smile

     
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We dont have PM here, but google ''doubles poker strategy'', you see many about this topis Smile

     
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General rule of thump for the double or nothing tourneys: Do nothing, but do it good. Big Smile

So if in doubt if you should play a hand, fold.

     
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The only reason I don't play DoN's are the rake I am paying in return for the winnings, and the DoN doesnt count for my Vip Points Smile

     
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Posted by shokaku:
General rule of thump for the double or nothing tourneys: Do nothing, but do it good. Big Smile

So if in doubt if you should play a hand, fold.

Agree
But seams that outher ppl have the same idea so if you have too many doing this it ends up a bit of a donk off at the high blinds, so its best then to get in early for you chips then sit back and watch porn.

     
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Good advice from doomdy - On this forum at least he's the master of this format.

     
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Posted by Dellbo99:
Good advice from doomdy - On this forum at least he's the master of this format.

Lol i am not Tongue I have a nice BR cos i play many hours not cos i have a great roi Smile

     
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