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yes i leave then. cause it is nice to get 5 buy ins more with in few minutes... why not change the table and buy in with 100BB again... so noone can take my big winnings for this time
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Well... unfortunately not,I usually keep playing long after although I think it would be worth a lot of times to use the method of "hit and run"! Especially after playing a few hours
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Posted by Webs367:
Posted by Dellbo99: people fear a big stack and I like to play deep - so I'm more inclined to stay.
The hit and run players are normally just bad players that don't trust themselves with a full stack.
The short stackers will also leave upon a double up - that is their strategy - they may be good at SSS but they're usually bad players too.
Chris Ferguson used his strategy to buy-in with 5% of his bankroll and leave when he has more than 10% when he did his $0 to $10,000 challenge. Do you think he is a bad player ?
Chris Ferguson did this so as not to break his bank roll management requirements - he can't have 10% of his roll at risk at any one time if he didn't have this restriction I'm sure he would stay. Also I think his challenge was completed mainly with torney play so I think it was rarely a problem for him.
Is Chris a bad player? Of course not but while he is an excellent torney player his cash play, particularly at the time, was not great. He has worked on his cash game play recently and now is much better but at the time the challenge was started I do not believe he would have been a winning player at the highest limits.
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I rarely do this but if I hit'n'run it's because I feel that my opponent has an edge on me or I think I'm just playing bad. I never hit'n'run if the guy is a huge fish, why would I?
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A the Full Tilt academy Taylor Caby does a video on reading your opponents about timing tells and stack sizes.
He goes on to say that the players with big stacks who are prepared to stay and play are normally the better players. May be worth a look - plenty of other good tips and it's free too.
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I don't agree that its bad players who hit and run. I can play short stack very well so I usually buy in the minimum but I'm confident playing big stack too. You need both to be able to play tourneys.
In cash games I set myself a target and leave when I hit that target. That's not bad play. That's good br management. Even if I triple up my stack there are usually still bigger stacks at the table so one bad beat is all it takes to lose everything. If I leave when I'm more than ten dollars up I can buy in another table and feel safe I've a guaranteed increase in my br. If one in ten games I lose it means I earn steadily instead of winning a large br and busting it at one table.
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Posted by awood88: I don't agree that its bad players who hit and run. I can play short stack very well so I usually buy in the minimum but I'm confident playing big stack too. You need both to be able to play tourneys.
In cash games I set myself a target and leave when I hit that target. That's not bad play. That's good br management. Even if I triple up my stack there are usually still bigger stacks at the table so one bad beat is all it takes to lose everything. If I leave when I'm more than ten dollars up I can buy in another table and feel safe I've a guaranteed increase in my br. If one in ten games I lose it means I earn steadily instead of winning a large br and busting it at one table.
Could not agree with this post more. It´s all about what you are doing at the tables and not how fast or often. I never run unless I achieve what I came for. 1 exemple would be I am playing a tour of freerol´s for another website I am posting at and after 2 of those I made some cash so for the next one that is a actuall buyin with 500 added I grinded down som plo tables so I didnt have to deposit at that client. When I hit my money I left the table and registered for the tourney. See my point? Other times I wish I´ve left before loosing the stack to another *player* but hey - thats the part of the game and I am sure I will suckout in the future as well, dont matter from who.
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If your winning and believe you the best, or one of the best players at the table - why would you leave? Leaving when you're most likely to win more is in itself a losing play.
If you're under rolled for that limit and there are other big stacks at the table then leaving is fair enough.
If your playing a SSS then leaving is a crucial part of your strategy and not leaving after a double up would be a bad play.
If you believe you're the worst, or one of the worst then leave regardless or whether you're winning or not.
I play cash as my main game - trust me it's the bad players that hit and run. Sure there are exceptions but they are rare.
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