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74o vs KK pf:14BB  0   
Known players:
MP1 = ($25.75)
MP2 = ($53.50)
MP3 = ($150.85)
CO = ($44.65)
BU = ($53.20)
SB = ($55.80)
BB(Hero) = ($49.50)
UTG1 = ($52.95)
UTG2 = ($30.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K , K .
UTG1 raises to $2, UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $2.00, 2 folds, CO calls $2.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $7, UTG1 calls $5.00, MP1 calls $5.00, CO folds.

Flop: ($23.25) 6 , 3 , 5 (3 players)
Hero bets $22.00, UTG1 folds, MP1 calls $18.75(All-In).

Turn: ($64.00) 5 (2 players)

River: ($64.00) T (2 players)

Final Pot: $64.00.

Results follow:

Hero shows two pairs, kings and fives (K K )
MP1 shows a straight, seven high (4 7 ) WTF?? Where did he get those from?

     
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All I can say is that happens. To bad it happened to you as well as thousends others tonight. Preflop donk-calls from a shortstacked middleplaced player is nothing unusuall and my guess would be the player either missread his situation according to the pot or been watching to much of HighStakesPoker and now has something to brag about. The good thing is - he´ll probably already lost the 64$, the bad news is not to you. I´ll like to give my self an advice as well - get of overpair hands when board shows something like that or play it more conservant after the flop. What do you think of that?

     
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Raise more pre to ruin his odds. He has to call 5 to win ~23,5+ and he has position on both of you. It's the typical scenario where one call leads to another because odds get better and better.

(5/23,5)*100 = ~21,3% needed equity to make the call(in AI scenario)
He's got fx 39,7% vs AKo. These numbers are ofcourse only if he sees all 5 community cards often he will be forced out on flop.

Tough luck back on the horse and better luck next time Cool

Btw. in my calcs I asumed it was 47s

Edit. with a semi short stack like his I don't like his play but deep it's another ball game.

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Double edit...just saw headline 74o sorry just makes his play even worse. Suits on next HH plz.

Edited by M3turbo (24 April 2009 @ 01:15 GMT)


     
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Posted by pokersztar:
Where did he get those from?


lol Smile

..Ya it sucks.. Just unlucky I guess..Maybe pot sized bet preflop is too small like M3 said, I don't know.

     
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Posted by M3turbo:
Raise more pre to ruin his odds.

This.

$7 would be enough against the raiser (without callers). But after two people called you have should bet at least $10-12.

     
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by M3turbo:
Raise more pre to ruin his odds.

This.

$7 would be enough against the raiser (without callers). But after two people called you have should bet at least $10-12.


+1

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I love making it huge here with KK because it looks like you are trying to steal the dead money which makes some villains shove AQs+/JJ+ Big Smile (you need to be frequent 3better to do this though)

     
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yep, he was calling 4-1 preflop
and then he flop the nuts. i don't know why u cry so much for your kings, it's not like if he would call down to the river with gutshoot

raise more pre, u was out of position and any ace will scare you alot

     
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