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Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
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Hmm, too funny. OK, oil and water the engine thing..the oil companies dont care too much, its about 5% of there income if that, sorry to kill that theroy, they will roll wit the i times and produce diffrent chemicals. " if someone came along with a miricle cure to lots of different ailments then they would lose trilions" Yes but someone else would make trillions(unless killed), they have ripped us of for year and will continue to do so. "scientists is that they crave recognision" 100% , and will go to lengths to prove they are right some even teting on themself, normally leading to death. S**t did I carry the 1, oh now im turning blue.
DrTre1213 , posting refrences to what, wiki LMFAO, must be true then. There is a bit of truth in what you say, but I can do it to, its a fact we can cure cancer 100% fact, problem is to do so you will end up dead from the drug etc that saves you from the cancer.
"Look, you guys can say all the crap you want to me and about me. The point I'm trying to make is that swine flu, no matter what happens, is curable and preventabl" not making fun of you but your reasoning etc, what you are saying is the scientists are wrong and you are right cus you seen it on wiki. The whole MMS is just unreal, sometimes in life you come across ppl who are very bright but have not 1 ounce of common sence, I think your looking at the whole thing wrong. Science...for something to be fact and true it must be done and be able to have the results replicated, not written in theroy. Some of the info provided is free, but you can also buy the good stuff...see whats happining there, have you paid for it? If its so good would you share it? does saving the whole world come at the price of $12.99, cool. Dont get offended, its ok they sucked you in, they do say one is born ever 60 seconds, but seriously dont get offended by opposition to such claims.
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Australia
Age: 50 (M)
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i meant the old water engine movie of the 1950s, sorry i should have made that clear. and as for someone else making millions, if the chemical compound was"nt overly complicated and allready patented for a different use and the patent was over ten years old then no, everyone company could get in on the act. with the water engine movie i mentioned, it was only fiction, a dude managed to get a motor running on water as well as it would run on gas, and the oil companys offered him large sums of money to keep quite but he wouldnt, so they had him killed, the point i was trying to make was that the oil industy has over the years sent alternative fuels back eions, drug companys have the same motives. and as for swine flu being prevenable, what do you mean ? with a mask, there is no vaccine for it, a vaccine is possible but would cost millions to develop, and no drug company will folk out millions for a disease that will probably vanish before the vaccine is ready, so companys making tammyflu and another treatment i cant remember the name of have upped production, in this case the cure is more profitable than the prevention, even if the cure wont be availble to everyone, even in 1st world countrys.
Joined: Mar '08
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Ohh, i get you. Yes have to that would/will/does happen, the oil companys have been buying stuff like this for years (patients) etc, eg, Apperently a large razor company sent some heavys to a guys house who had invented and painted a razor sharpener, the out come was he keept it almost to himself. (also petrol is fairly easy to make,on a off note) (damn i need that spell check lol) But with MMS, lets say it works, i used it and great wohoo im cured, what do you think id do, yep set up shop selling it, from what i see it cant be paintinded, just like selling water. If it had any credit not only would he not be doing so much advertising and publisity stunts he would also have a huge following of creditable scientists, but no. Dr. has made me laugh saying that its just our opnion, but what he fails to see is that his is not his opnion its just crap he has read and now belives what he is told is his opnion, and doesnt seam to understand why ppl are not falling for it. "in this case the cure is more profitable than the prevention, even if the cure wont be availble to everyone, even in 1st world countrys." yep but here its free, so no profit but only 3/4 will get the treatment.
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Australia
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 1418
chemical compounds are patented, but the patent only lasts ten years before others are allowed to sell the same compound (or active constituant), thats why when new insecticides and herbicides are "invented" like the original roundup (glythosate), they"re allways much more expensive for the first ten years, now you can buy glyfosate under heaps of different brands so the price has dropped. the same goes for human medicines, have you ever been ask if you would like the geniric version of a drug when you fill a script ?? that means the patent has run out (or sold the rights) and other companys are making the same drug, different companies can then call the exact same drug anything they like, but, they must make sure they list the origiinal compound as the active constituant thats in my county at least and im guessing most countrys would be the same. also you say the treatment there is free, nothings for free bigfoot (exept bankrolls lol), but i do know what you mean, free as in you wont pay for it, same as me, but our countrys tax dollars will. or in Australias case have paid for it, they have it stockpilled here but there isnt enough for everyone im told. health workers get priority in cases like this as they are the hardest hit and the most valuable to the national interests, but if a very very virilant strain were to hit then health workers and military would get 1st dibs.
What do I think about it?. The Government can say little about it and the media can scare the crap out of everyone with it, but when it is on you doorstep, then you might just start to worry about it when you have 2 daughters and wife about to drop a third girl mid September. The school my eldest goes to, one of her class mates mum has been diagnosed with it and on friday my wife phoned another one of the eldests classmates mum to discuss Avon, only to find out the classmate has been diagnosed with it. So, am I concerned or worried, you bet your ass I am. I will let the girls lead their lives in the normal way, but monitor them closely and hope to god they dont get it.
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Netherlands
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The mainstream media is not telling us about these facts (see links below). This is how the Elite will depopulate the planet. Vaccines don't work as advertised. Read the shocking facts about avian flu vaccine deaths and sterility.
Go to this site and listen to the audio interview of Dr. John Waterman (11 July-update 4) projectcamelot.
Then visit his website by clicking on his name under update 3 of same webpage and click on Medical Martial Law (scroll down to July 7 posting)
Don't allow any vaccines to be injected into your body or the bodies of those you love. Spread the word!
DATA SET 1 1. An “informal” [e.g., illegal] clinical trial of the Avian Flu vaccine on about 200 Polish vagrants resulted in 11 immediate deaths and an additional set of 20 later deaths (approximately 15% of the test population). The doctors and nurses involved were charged with murder. (Fact. 2008)
2. Approximately 3500 Chinese children died in an Avian Flu vaccine experiment. (Rumor, 2008)
3. The Philippine High Court convicted WHO (The World Health Organization) of involuntarily sterilizing over 3 million Philippina women through the use of vaccines. (Fact)
4. The WHO in 1985 documented that one of its’ primary goals for the use of a sterility vaccine disguised as a smallpox vaccine was to “eliminate 150 million excess Sub Saharan Africans”. (Fact, 1985-ongoing)
5. The WHO 5-shot vaccine programs for tetanus in third world countries in South and Central America caused the involuntary sterilization of millions of women. (Fact, ongoing)
6. Monsanto’s MON 810 corn causes sterility according to studies published by the Austrian Government. (Fact, 2009)
7. Monsanto’s MON 810 corn contains the Cauliflower Mosaic Virus which, when ingested, lowers the bodies CD 4 cells to a point which, on immune tests, indicate that a person has HIV/AIDS. The lowered CD 4 cells results from eating GMO corn, the staple of the diet in many parts of Black Africa. MON 810 is grown in Europe for animal feed and in many places, including the US, around the world for human food. (Fact, ongoing)
8. Merck’s Gardasil vaccine causes death, collapse and chronic illness in young woman and girls, including a new, never-before described “disease” called Juvenile ALS, a fatal condition in which the nervous system is slowly destroyed while consciousness remains unimpaired. This vaccine increases cervical cancer by 44.7% in women and girls who already have Human Papilloma Virus. Cervical Cancer is easily detected and cured in early stages and is not a major killer of women. Gardasil contains substances which may cause sterility in women receiving it and any protection lasts only a few years, so 9 year olds will probably not be sexually active by the time this protection has worn off. (Fact, ongoing)
9. Baxter International Inc. was in the process of applying for a contract to provide Avian Flu vaccines to European countries in the event of an Avian Flu epidemic. Its Austrian laboratory shipped Seasonal Flu vaccines to 18 countries in Europe. A laboratory technician tested the Baxter Seasonal Flu vaccines sent to the Czech Republic and discovered that they were contaminated with a highly pathogenic version of the Avian Flu, 72 Kilograms of it, although Level 3 precautions were in place and such contamination “could not have happened accidentally” according to experts in the field. No documentation of the destruction of this highly infective material has been provided although the Austrian Health Ministry insists that the deadly viral material was destroyed. (Fact, 2008, 2009)
10. A WHO investigation into the Baxter contaminated vaccine issue resulted in NO findings and in NO disciplinary actions. An Austrian investigation into the same events yielded the same results. (Fact, 2009)
11. Baxter has been rewarded with a lead role in developing, producing and disseminating the Swine Flu vaccine for the upcoming pandemic. (Fact, 2009)
12. Swine Flu was first identified to the public as a serious problem in April/May 2009 when 168 persons in Mexico were confirmed by CDC and WHO to have died from the Swine Flu. This number was later revised downward to only 16 deaths. (Fact, 2009)
13. It normally takes a minimum of 12 to 18 months to create a vaccine after a specific virus has been identified. (Fact)
14. The US Government has spent more than a billion dollars to develop and to make available the Swine flu vaccine for a disease which poses no significant health threat. (Fact, 2009)
15. The “Seed Culture” for the Swine Flu virus was provided to vaccine companies in May, 2009. Baxter International Inc. announced in June, 2009 that they would have their vaccine ready in July, 2009 . (Fact, 2009)
16. A WHO container of Swine Flu virus from Mexico City exploded on a passenger train in Luzon, Switzerland. All of the current Swiss cases of Swine Flu are from the area where the explosion took place. It is illegal to ship pathogenic viruses in this way. (Fact, 2009)
17. A significant number of virologists and other scientists are on record stating that the Swine Flu was created in a laboratory and could not evolve naturally. (Fact, 2009)
DATA SET 2
1. Canada, Sweden, Norway, France and other countries have announced intentions to vaccinate every man, woman and child. To do so, they are ordering 2 shots per person of untested, unsafe and unnecessary Swine Flu Vaccines from a variety of manufacturers. The US Departments of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services both stated in early 2009 that they would do so “beginning with those who want it”. (Fact, 2009)
2. President Obama announced to the public shortly after his inauguration that every man, woman and child should receive the Avian Flu vaccine this fall along with seasonal flu shots this coming Fall. President Obama is on record saying that he believes that vaccinations should be mandatory. (Fact, 2009)
3. The United States has spent $714 Million GPS mapping every front door of every house and apartment in the country and listing who lives in each house or apartment under the direction of the White House. (Fact, 2009)
4. Many people have reported that they have received calls at home or at work from agencies of the US Government inquiring about the “number of unvaccinated children in the household”. (Fact, 2009)
5. The United States, Norway, Sweden, Austria and other countries have announced that in case of a Swine Flu pandemic all health and security authority shall revert to teams and command centers run by the WHO. (Fact, 2009)
6. Every recent major event like 9/11, the Madrid bombings or the London bombings has been accompanied by a materially identical “training exercise” simulating the actual event involving, confusing and distracting the legitimate responders. (Fact, 2001-ongoing)
7. A major set of FEMA training exercises is scheduled for 27 July, 2009. (Fact, 2009)
The fact is, governments are getting ready to turn over their health, police and other powers to the WHO/UN (aka “the New World Order” now that their PPP (Planned Pandemic Pretext) is being activated. Jane Burgermeister, the courageous journalist who has filed criminal charges over what she says is genocidal intent by drug companies and governments reports: US: F.E.M.A. is planning nationwide terrorism drills in the United States set to begin on July 27th, 2009…. [9/11, 7/7, the Madrid Bombings and other disasters have all occurred during virtually nearly identical "exercises" involving those responders and troops who would otherwise focus on an event of their magnitude and suddenness - REL]
In the event of a pandemic declaration, WHO will coordinate the activities of Homeland Security and FEMA from a special pandemic control room linked to supercomputers of the UN security forces which appear set to be the the nerve center for any operation to transport large numbers of Americans by rail or road to the FEMA camps or [to or - REL] from special quarantine centers [to be - REL] set up at 19 airports. Any systematic and sustained disruption to the operation of the WHO pandemic control room, of Homeland Security and FEMA headquarters or of the logistics of its units, of railways or other transport infrastructure leading to FEMA camps would be a severe blow to any covert mission to mass murder Americans and leave the country to be occupied by foreign troops under the direction of WHO and the UN. [This suggests the possibility of a false flag event during a Pandemic Emergency situation. We have no information to suggest any such event, but we are mindful of the implications of such an event - REL]
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
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lots of valid points there erik1970. I find it strange that when it was hearsay the media etc went crazy and ppl (some) see it as a dommsday, but now it is a pandemic...well its all quiet..strange. And when you hear advice by profesionals it all is diffrent advice. Will i be a guinee pig for a vaxine nope, if it was that bad id be forced. someone sure sees $$ in all this, and if it is bad our ecomany in its doom and gloom will get worse and worse. Im gettin a shotgun and stocking up on food for when the zombies attack.
Joined: May '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 467
Posted by B1gfoot: lots of valid points there erik1970. I find it strange that when it was hearsay the media etc went crazy and ppl (some) see it as a dommsday, but now it is a pandemic...well its all quiet..strange. And when you hear advice by profesionals it all is diffrent advice. Will i be a guinee pig for a vaxine nope, if it was that bad id be forced. someone sure sees $$ in all this, and if it is bad our ecomany in its doom and gloom will get worse and worse. Im gettin a shotgun and stocking up on food for when the zombies attack.
Offcource, to release a medicine at least 10 years of clinical research has to be done before it can be spread into the world. In case of a pandemic however eccemptions can be made. Suddenly those zombie movies with companies spreading a virus to sell their vaccine don't seem so farfetched
Joined: Mar '08
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Yep and the US Secretary of Health and Human Services, has just signed a decree granting vaccine makers total legal immunity from any lawsuits that result from any new "Swine Flu" vaccine. And the us is spending $7 billion to rush vaccines onto the market. Shawn of the dead is a great film
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Location: Belgium
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Posted by B1gfoot: Yep and the US Secretary of Health and Human Services, has just signed a decree granting vaccine makers total legal immunity from any lawsuits that result from any new "Swine Flu" vaccine. And the us is spending $7 billion to rush vaccines onto the market. Shawn of the dead is a great film
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
Posts: 14136
i see the results of the poll and the first answer is nothing to worry about. i read in a reply too that someone said media overreacting i wanna see what all these people will say when the flu will be next door to them.something that i dont wish of course but its more likely to happen, we didnt have any sick people from the flu but now we do and all of them coming from trips or from visits to UK. im also watching the story in other countries too that im thinking to visit or visited in the past. New Zealand for example which is one of the most remote places has more than 2000 persons sick from the swine flu and at least 10 deaths. if you can get vaccinated just do it cause later you might do this
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 47 (F)
Posts: 14136
Well for sure some people gonna get rich out of this , like with every other situation bad or not. I keep wondering about all these pandemic stuff if its human made from some people (companies) just to make a huge load of money trying to <<find out a cure>> while they have the antidote right in their pockets!
and for my fellow Canadians remeber this... Unlike some countries, immunization is not mandatory in Canada; it cannot be made mandatory because of the Canadian Constitution. http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/97vol23/2...
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Posted by 911insidejob: You should be more afraid of the shot than getting the "swine flu"...
Yep id say so too. Loads of ppl here are getting it, but no one will know its effect for 2 months, and then longer for any side effect etc. Its a joke, they refuse to regulate drugs that they know ppl use and call it illiagle, yet this gets the green flag after basically no research. The more and more of these vaxins we take the less ands less or imune system works and is weaker each generation. just like in normall life i dont put any drugs in me that i know nothing about, im sure as hell not going to be a govenment guinipig, let all of parliment go first then ill consider.