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to miss such a bad situation when you don't know your opponent has ace or king just go all in pre flop, if you don't do it don't call your opponent idiot or sucker , most of us raise to little with pocket pair and let donks see flop with A3 or K3
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The problem is, when you are up against a true donk they will call you even if you go all in. And odds are they wont be the only one either. Then one of them always ends up sucking out on you.
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Posted by jack37: The problem is, when you are up against a true donk they will call you even if you go all in. And odds are they wont be the only one either. Then one of them always ends up sucking out on you.
Yeah, BUT if i dont raise an QQ what hands am I actually gona raise?? KK and AA?? That's kinda of a problem, and only the long run of betting and playing poker can aswer that
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Pretty poor from OP to claim that article as his own. On the other hand its pretty well written so is some benefit I suppose.
Saying any one particular play with any hand is always best as there are always situations that call for something different. Completely opponent dependent. However, not raising/reraising QQ is really bad. You would be missing out on so much value as people wil call you with worse all the time.
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Im not saying that I dont raise preflop with pocket ladies. I just mean I hate when I make a decent size raise pre flop and still fou people call you and end up hitting a flush or a stright. But that is poker.
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Posted by glenn006: If i have QQ... i raise them pre flop very hard, becouse i lose many times with QQ....
We're on the same boat, I lose many times even if I raise hard, so if I got the position and many have bet or called the first raise, I tend to go all-in.
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Do you go all in even when you are sitting at a cash table, or is that just what you do at a tournament table. And do you do it recomend goinfg all in early on or in the later stages of a tournament?
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I'm not a very good player, I'm just a beginner, however, every time I let my guard down with these high pairs, others tend to get runner after runner beating the ladies. so i prefer to throw all-in when there's already some amount on the pot. I do this both in cash tables ($4 starting) or tournaments.
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i think with queens you see what your against by putting in a raise if you get a call you see aflop and if you get a raise well thats down to you but 9 out of 10 times id see a flop unless it was gonna cost me most my chips inwhich case id fold as they say if your chips are not in the middle you cant lose em so theres always the next hand but bye rasing the queens pre flop you get rid of smaller players if your out flopped fold if you think there strong put a bet and see what opponent does if he calls or raises be causios aas he may have you in the bag
