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  31-May-09, 15:28   #1
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SuperNoob 

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What are the chances AA will win against any other pair headsup, both going allin preflop?
I have won about 34 out of 50, thats about 70%, but my friend keeps on losing.

     
  31-May-09, 15:47   #2
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Tchungpo 

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Normally its ~20% vs ~80% (when you have a pair vs another pair, the highest have 80%).

If u want to know with precision, just tip on google :"pokker odds", you'll find many odds calculators for free Blink

     
  31-May-09, 16:26   #3
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hybrid_split 

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its not someone calling on another pair that you should worry about its the bloke holding a 9 8 that catches 2 pair or a straight or 5 7 leaving you thinking that you got easy win to watch him catch the exact cards he needs after you go all in Aww crap!

     
  31-May-09, 16:28   #4
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shokaku 

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Depends a bit on the suits of the cards, but it is around 80/20 for a higher pocket pair against a lower one. You run lower than average, but your friend must run even worse.

     
  31-May-09, 16:58   #5
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pokerpaul198 
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Posted by shokaku:
Depends a bit on the suits of the cards, but it is around 80/20 for a higher pocket pair against a lower one. You run lower than average, but your friend must run even worse.


LOL his friend sounds kind of like me I run about 55% with over pockets on Fulltilt. It's getting kind of sick.

     
  31-May-09, 17:47   #6
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Gottfriedx 
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But remember 1 thing, KK always beats AA somehow Blink
(not really, but somehow they do :S)

     
  31-May-09, 17:48   #7
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Dellbo99 
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Do a search for Poker Stove.

It's a small, free program that will tell u the odds for any poker situation - real easy bto use too.

     
  31-May-09, 18:44   #8
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Fakiry 

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You and only one other opponent at pre flop, AA has 85% probabilities of winning. But you have to remember probabilities are not the number of times things can happen ir not. Probabilities are a measure of how likely it is that some event will occur in a perfect ambience. Real tables or online tables are not perfect ambients, thats why there are so many pros who prefer not to always follow the book. Many players say hand Aces are to steal the others, always making slow play, to me, i always mae a big bet pre flop because i already lost too many times playing it in slow play mode. What you said just shows hat noone controls cards

     
  31-May-09, 22:00   #9
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chuongdk 
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AA has about 80%, and if AA has the same color with lower pair, it is higher chance 'cause no way lower pair win with flush. I once saw AA beat AA by flush, so sick.

     
  31-May-09, 22:33   #10
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fochizza 

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Posted by Dellbo99:
Do a search for Poker Stove.

It's a small, free program that will tell u the odds for any poker situation - real easy bto use too.

Not true, KK only wins vs AA when i'm the one holding AA. When i'm holding KK vs AA i wont get that K on the board unless there is an A too Smile

     
  1-Jun-09, 02:52   #11
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SuperNoob 

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Posted by Fakiry:
You and only one other opponent at pre flop, AA has 85% probabilities of winning. But you have to remember probabilities are not the number of times things can happen ir not. Probabilities are a measure of how likely it is that some event will occur in a perfect ambience. Real tables or online tables are not perfect ambients, thats why there are so many pros who prefer not to always follow the book. Many players say hand Aces are to steal the others, always making slow play, to me, i always mae a big bet pre flop because i already lost too many times playing it in slow play mode. What you said just shows hat noone controls cards


I agree with that, for some unknown reason some things happen more often than expected, most of the times when i have lost with AA, it is against someone holding small pair hitting straight or flush.
Whenever i slow play AA, i lose more often than i win in a ring game. not raising big with aa in ring game is definitely donating your chips.

     
  1-Jun-09, 03:07   #12
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Preisner 
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To limp with aces is always a tough game. People often ger married to hands, and pocket aces is the most marriable hand you can get! The thing is pocket aces, (in the flop) it's still a pair.

If you overestimate the power of your bullets you'll get shot preety often :s

     
  1-Jun-09, 09:18   #13
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GeneYuss 

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Posted by hybrid_split:
its not someone calling on another pair that you should worry about its the bloke holding a 9 8 that catches 2 pair or a straight or 5 7 leaving you thinking that you got easy win to watch him catch the exact cards he needs after you go all in Aww crap!


Flopping 2 pair only happens like 1 in 50 times, a pair hits a set like 1 in 8.

     
  1-Jun-09, 09:18   #14
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alhoyo 
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yes, for me the most difficult hand to fold is AA holding. i know its only a pair but i still loosing money day by day because its no t easy fold. and im a big fish, so i think most fishes do it same way

     
  1-Jun-09, 09:32   #15
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doomdy 

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I dont get busted many times with AA, but i allways raise it big preflop so maybe thats why.

Last i limped AA in early cos there was a guy at the table min-raising every hand, he min-raised me and i put him allin, he called and busted, but i am not a fan of slowplaying Aces.

     
  1-Jun-09, 10:47   #16
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shokaku 

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Posted by doomdy:
Last i limped AA in early cos there was a guy at the table min-raising every hand, he min-raised me and i put him allin, he called and busted, but i am not a fan of slowplaying Aces.


Sneaky.

Be warned if doomdy limps in. Cool

     
  1-Jun-09, 12:22   #17
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Tchungpo 

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slowplay is bad : with AA or anything else!!!
slowplay let ur opponents hits : its like a suicide!!!

slowplay only with a monster like full or more (flush is sometime dangerous to slow play!!)

     
  1-Jun-09, 17:21   #18
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Mayones 
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about 1:4,5 odds, that is about 18%. Interestingly, Pair vs 2 lower cards, if they are close is 5:1 favourite, so not much more. And 2 higher unpaired cards vs 2 lower unpaired cards- 5:3 favourite. Keep that in mind!

     
  1-Jun-09, 22:41   #19
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xxxbchxxx 

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Posted by Tchungpo:
Normally its ~20% vs ~80% (when you have a pair vs another pair, the highest have 80%).

If u want to know with precision, just tip on google :"pokker odds", you'll find many odds calculators for free Blink


good stats but you cant take the X factor into account as X can screw up any thing ..
You can loose 20 times in a row then win 100 times in a row the only thing you can take from this is it will even out the more hands you play.
one night loose all next night win every time X kills................................

     
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