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  30-Jun-09, 17:57   #21
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Tchungpo 

Joined: Feb '09
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A simple things prove that poker is a skill game : how can u explain that people like Phil Ivey or Negreanu have got so much bracelet? if poker was a gambling game everyone would have the same chance and Negreanu, Ivey (or another pro) could'nt win so much tournaments. But they did, so it proves that poker is a skill game !

     
  30-Jun-09, 18:49   #22
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highbet 
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u need a good skill and sometimes luck too

     
  30-Jun-09, 18:56   #23
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KeefBurtons 

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If your playing for the short term then luck if you play for the long term then skill.

     
  30-Jun-09, 19:27   #24
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Fakiry 

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Poker is only a lucky game for those who dont play it. The good cards in the hand is part of it, but not all: you can win many times with a pair of aces in the hand, but you cant guarantee you will win allways. The betting is also part of it, but not all: you can make someone fold AJ because you bet too strong with 72, and the oponent just imagine you with a pair of aces in the hand, but you cant do that always. That is why poker is a skill game. You have to know how to make the best movement in each hand, depending on your position on the table, the cards in your hand and the number of oponents.

     
  30-Jun-09, 20:50   #25
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twinsun 
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by doomdy:
Btw check this players sharkscope.
Its 100% skill, 0% luck right?


Wtf. 26.000 games. Confused

Get a life dude.

The image edited by doomdy is an old one. Now the player has reached 43000 games Smile

     
  30-Jun-09, 21:07   #26
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erik1970 
Joined: Feb '09
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maybe i have to change my poll from skill to luck
i just lost again agants a 5 7 with my top pair of aces Angry

     
  30-Jun-09, 23:09   #27
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daverj 
Joined: Apr '09
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Posted by doomdy:
Imo its sometin like this 99,9% skill, 0,01% luck.



depends how often u play. over time luck gets smaller.

     
  30-Jun-09, 23:34   #28
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JrChuang 
Joined: Jun '09
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No doubt, betting & skill game. good luck! Blink

     
  1-Jul-09, 01:02   #29
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pierduwonie 
Joined: Mar '09
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Skilll + little portion of luck(bad beats like loosing AA vs fish call 72o Aww crap! Aww crap! etc)

And imo during MTT's you need more luck than on the cash tables Smile

     
  1-Jul-09, 03:07   #30
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by shokaku:
Wtf. 26.000 games. Confused

Get a life dude.


I have a life, i do this just at night Blink

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But seriously 26,000 games...
Lets say multi 9 an hour, he pro lets say 8 hours a day so 70 a day (maybe more).
So 2,000 a month so.....

WTF get a life dude Shock


get a life ?? haha his PokerStars account alone is now $200K ++ - plenty of people work 8+ hrs a day 5+ days a week and have less fun doing it and a much smaller bank account at the end of the year.. I'd say this tatta has a life and it's a life many of us dream of Big Smile

On another note, the poll results currently indicate 20% luck 80% skill - which I've found accross various forums to be a fairly rough consensus of about what the game is made up of.

     
  1-Jul-09, 08:28   #31
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mtsn 
Joined: Sep '08
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Any pokerplayer, good or bad can win a hand by luck. But in the long run you will run out of luck and only players with skills are still winning

     
  1-Jul-09, 09:01   #32
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ADACTA 
Joined: Jan '08
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if it wouldnt be you doomdy you would get a thumb down.

Pls not again blabla about skill and luck in poker.

     
  1-Jul-09, 09:02   #33
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doomdy 

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Posted by ADACTA:
if it wouldnt be you doomdy you would get a thumb down.

Pls not again blabla about skill and luck in poker.


Sry? Smile Dont get you? Smile

     
  4-Jul-09, 00:29   #34
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DrTre1213 

Joined: Apr '09
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What kind of question is this??!! lol. Of course it's a skill game! There's some luck, yes. In fact there's quite a bit of luck in the lower limits when you have donkeys pushing BS hands and end up hitting on the river Angry But it's definitely a game more of skill...as we can clearly see the players who know the game and how to read situations, are the most profitable of all.

     
  4-Jul-09, 16:30   #35
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Mayones 
Joined: Nov '08
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It is game of skill, no doubt, in the long run. That is why some guys, like Ivey or Hansen, can earn for the living.

     
  4-Jul-09, 17:03   #36
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darksorrow 

Joined: May '09
Location: Bangladesh
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In my opinion poker needs a bit of luck and also skill of the player. The combination of both can win good amount of money from a game of poker. Blink

     
  4-Jul-09, 18:24   #37
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
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i think for long term poker is mainly skill and less of luck. in short term if you are playing against donks its more of luck and when you are playing against good players its more of skill.
And it depends on the type of game you play too.

     
  4-Jul-09, 19:25   #38
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Mascarilha 
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Portugal
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"Luck is king on the short run. But skill is on the long run."

     
  4-Jul-09, 19:25   #39
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
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Anyone who thinks poker is more luck than skill should be expelled from this site immediately. We are poker players and it is insulting to say that our game is a game of luck. It annoys the hell out of me when people don't give the game any credit and say that it doesn't involve great skill.

All games have an element of luck. Although poker has a great reliance on luck, so do many other sports. In football, the most skillfull team doesn't always win. The luck of the bounce of the ball can create and prevent goals. The draw of the teams ultimately effects the championship. A team can have an easy group or pick up momentum through the order of the games. Then there's injuries, referee's mistakes, weather conditions, penalties...

Quiz players rely mostly on a wide range of knowledge but ultimately they can't know everything. So a lot of the time it is the luck of the question that you know. You can be lucky with the category of questions. There's even more luck in multiple choice questions. But in the end, luck balances out and the most knowledgeable quizzers win more times.

In the long term luck balances out and makes poker a skill game. The only difference with poker is that we study luck. We call it calculated odds and we pray for luck. And more so than other games we sometimes have to take a chance on luck when the odds are right.

     
  4-Jul-09, 19:29   #40
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doironijs 
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 33 (M)
Posts: 35
Poker is skill with an element of luck,video poker for example is luck with an element of skill Smile

     
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