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Posted by ih8usukouts:
I don't know what to say, I have thought Pokerstars was rigged for a while. I have lost quite a few big hands to 4 of a kind. Once, I had poket KK's and a player had 9 4 os. I raised and he moved all in before the flop so I called putting myself all in. Well the flop was K 9 9. The turn and river were 9 9. I couldn't believe what I saw. Then 5 mins later at the same table the same person hit quad's again. I don't know what the odds are but I do see alot of quads on Pokerstars. Just my observation though. Good luck. I haven't seen quads to often on any other sites. Anyone else?


Well, it is rigged. Five 9 prove it!!!! lol

     
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0mblad0n on that 66 hand, what you expect the agressor to do in this flop after your check? Check behind and give up the hand? Minibet or bet half, 2/3 or 3/4 of the pot and fold when u push all-in? Overbet it putting you all-in and never suckout? I really dont get it! Maybe you should be on tilt! Go for a walk! Do a woman! Read a book! I don't know, but next time if you dont wanna to get sucked out just dont trap with a weak hand with near no equity to improve and a good fold equity if you donk bet it even if you think you are ahead! Try to make it hard to people to suckout you. And if you donk bet get called on this flop by just Q high put a track beacon on the guy and play him till he go broke! Blink

But man, if you are been playing like this and people are always not improving on later streets i think you must be rigged! Big Smile

     
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Posted by 0mblad0n:
I see everybody leave comments about that hands.Know something,forget about that hands.I have posted that hands like an example of what's happening,maybe weren't the best hands to put,these were only the last rigged hands I played.There were hundred of hands more clearely like these that gived me the certitude that's something is wrong.And the guys who just talk no rigged,only variance etc maybe didn't play Ipoker.I know very good what means variance,downswings etc,they are part of the game,but at Ipoker is something different.These things happens in a way that you can't call bad luck,bad run or something like that,can call just lottery and not fair poker(to not say rigged,because you said it's not rigged.ok,then it's not fair poker).I played some years ago,before Mansion at Expekt Poker,another site of Ipoker network,and was the same thing,went on tilt and lost a lot of money.After that,I decided to not play poker a while.Three months ago signed up with this site and got 50$ at Mansion.I thought what's happend with Expekt was just my fault,went on tilt and lost my money.I thought everything it's ok with this Ipoker.But,after my Mansion experience I'm 100% sure everything it's wrong.And please post the people who plays or played for good period of time at Ipoker,not the people who never played or play for a week


Online poker isnt rigged for 100% sure.
There can maybe some small network be a littl doubty but i wud say allways play at 1 off the bigger networks.
So for Ipoker.... NOT rigged 100% sure, you problably had some nasty suckouts, 1outers, 2 outers or..... sry to say just really bad play.
This doesnt mean Ipoker is rigged, Ms Variance can be very bitchy and you can have downswings for manths, on the other hand, you can also have upsings for months right?
When u have a downswing many players start playing even WORSE, dont blame the site cos its definitly NOT rigged, but blame URSELF, try to find ur leaks.

1 off the most important rules in poker:
- Maximize ur upswing!
- Minimize ur downswing!

Most winning players are very good at maximize their upswing but they really sucky at minimize their downswing.
Just remember that Smile

     
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Are you ever played at full tilt?

On Full Tilt the river card is always a bad car for me

What you are telling us is just poker.




     
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those were probably the worst bad beats ever Big Smile a bad beat should be more brutal than those u showed...

     
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Posted by ih8usukouts:
I don't know what to say, I have thought Pokerstars was rigged for a while. I have lost quite a few big hands to 4 of a kind. Once, I had poket KK's and a player had 9 4 os. I raised and he moved all in before the flop so I called putting myself all in. Well the flop was K 9 9. The turn and river were 9 9. I couldn't believe what I saw. Then 5 mins later at the same table the same person hit quad's again. I don't know what the odds are but I do see alot of quads on Pokerstars. Just my observation though. Good luck. I haven't seen quads to often on any other sites. Anyone else?


LMAO
your opponent had 9,4 os. you had KK. Flop comes, K99 ok. Then turn 9 and river 9 giving your opponent five 9s haha. I see why you reckon the site is rigged, I'd be suss about that too Blink

     
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you wanna see a bad beat???


here is a bad beat : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-2641696/just-wooow.jpg.html

all in on the flop

my face was like Shock Angry Aww crap!



ps. 2h3h vs AhKh pre is 32.59% vs 66.73% (tie 0.69%)

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or this one : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-2641775/vfrvf.jpg.html

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or this one : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-2644455/lool.jpg.html



theese 3 are BAD beats and not your crappy J3 Blink

Edited by EimsbushKing (24 July 2009 @ 14:59 GMT)


     
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full tilt and stars have so many leaderboard players couse they have more players like ipokernetwork.

     
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iPoker's not rigged, it's just s**t software.

     
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op is right, but he didn't give convincing examples.

how about this? this sort of **** happens at ipoker all the time.
$5 sng last two players:


$150/$300 No Limit Holdem
2 players


Stacks:
SB ($6860.00)
Hero (BB) ($2140.00)

Pre-flop: ($450, 2 players) Hero is BB 9 of hearts Jack of hearts
SB calls $150, Hero checks

Flop: 10 of hearts 10 of spades 3 of diamonds ($600, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: 7 of hearts ($600, 2 players)
Hero bets $300, SB calls $300

River: Queen of hearts ($1,200, 2 players)
Hero bets $1,200, SB raises to $2,400, Hero calls $340

Final Pot: $5,140
SB shows: 4 of hearts King of hearts

SB wins $5,140 ( won +$2,140 )
Hero lost -$2,140


yep, a king-high flush beats a jack-high flush heads-up, and how can you win there?

Edited by Administrator (07 September 2009 @ 11:47 GMT)


     
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Posted by ih8usukouts:
I don't know what to say, I have thought Pokerstars was rigged for a while. I have lost quite a few big hands to 4 of a kind. Once, I had poket KK's and a player had 9 4 os. I raised and he moved all in before the flop so I called putting myself all in. Well the flop was K 9 9. The turn and river were 9 9. I couldn't believe what I saw. Then 5 mins later at the same table the same person hit quad's again. I don't know what the odds are but I do see alot of quads on Pokerstars. Just my observation though. Good luck. I haven't seen quads to often on any other sites. Anyone else?

What was the suit of the fifth nine? Shock

     
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and if the donk can't beat you, he'll split the pot for sure:

(another sng)

$10/$20 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($800.00)
CO ($3030.00)
BTN ($2190.00)
Hero (SB) ($1450.00)
BB ($1530.00)

Pre-flop: ($30, 5 players) Hero is SB Queen of diamonds Ace of hearts
UTG raises to $800, 2 folds, Hero calls $790, 1 fold

Main Pot ($1,620)
Hero: 68.90% (EV = $316.18)
UTG: 31.10% (EV = -$296.18)

Flop: Ace of diamonds King of hearts 7 of hearts ($1,620, 2 players)

Main Pot ($1,620)
Hero: 81.70% (EV = $1323.54)
UTG: 18.30% (EV = $296.46)

Turn: 7 of diamonds ($1,620, 2 players)

Main Pot ($1,620)
Hero: 56.80% (EV = $920.16)
UTG: 43.20% (EV = $699.84)

River: 8 of clubs ($1,620, 2 players)

Main Pot ($1,620)
Hero: 50.00% (EV = $810.00)
UTG: 50.00% (EV = $810.00)

Final Pot: $1,620
UTG shows: Ace of clubs 2 of clubs

Hero wins $810 ( won +$10 )
UTG wins $810 ( won +$10 )

     
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Posted by KG1975:
iPoker's not rigged, it's just s**t software.


Why dig up an old poker is rigged thread ?

And to allvalue, making your first ever BRM post a "confirmed: Online poker is rigged" post isn't exactly a great start Blink

     
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Stop cry Aww crap! everybody have hade bad times while playing poker so go home Aww crap!

     
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and this happened when i was a fish (of course i won that sng):



No Limit Holdem Tournament
Middlesbrough Buy-In: $10+$1
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG 1570)
UTG+1 1960)
CO 1850)
BTN 2460)
Hero (SB) (200
BB (960)

Blinds: 30/60

Pre-flop: (90, 6 players) Hero is SB 4 of clubs Jack of hearts
UTG raises to 120, UTG+1 calls 120, CO calls 120, BTN calls 120, Hero goes all-in 200, 1 fold, UTG raises to 1,020, UTG+1 goes all-in 1,960, CO folds, BTN folds, UTG goes all-in 550

Main Pot (900)
UTG+1: 17.80% (EV = -$39.80)
Hero: 11.30% (EV = -$98.30)
UTG: 71.00% (EV = $439.00)

Side Pot #1 (2,740)
UTG+1: 18.50% (EV = -$863.10)
UTG: 81.50% (EV = $863.10)

Side Pot #2 (390)
UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $0.00)

Flop: Jack of spades 2 of clubs 2 of hearts (4,300, 3 players)

Main Pot (900)
UTG+1: 8.70% (EV = $78.30)
Hero: 8.60% (EV = $77.40)
UTG: 82.60% (EV = $743.40)

Side Pot #1 (2,740)
UTG+1: 8.40% (EV = $230.16)
UTG: 91.60% (EV = $2509.84)

Side Pot #2 (390)
UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $390.00)

Turn: Jack of diamonds (4,300, 3 players)

Main Pot (900)
UTG+1: 4.80% (EV = $43.20)
Hero: 90.50% (EV = $814.50)
UTG: 4.80% (EV = $43.20)

Side Pot #1 (2,740)
UTG+1: 4.50% (EV = $123.30)
UTG: 95.50% (EV = $2616.70)

Side Pot #2 (390)
UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $390.00)

River: 5 of clubs (4,300, 3 players)

Main Pot (900)
UTG+1: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
Hero: 100.00% (EV = $900.00)
UTG: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)

Side Pot #1 (2,740)
UTG+1: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
UTG: 100.00% (EV = $2740.00)

Side Pot #2 (390)
UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $390.00)

Final Pot: 4,030
Hero shows: 4 of clubs Jack of hearts
UTG shows: Ace of diamonds Ace of spades
UTG+1 shows: Queen of hearts Queen of diamonds

Hero wins 900 ( won +700 )
UTG wins 2,740 ( won +1,170 )
UTG+1 wins 390 ( lost -1,570 )
CO lost -120
BTN lost -120


i usually don't waste time writing in forums, in this case people just need to know not to play there unless they are total fish that's happy about slowly losing their money instead of quickly losing their money.

     
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Look if any pokerroom is rigged and I am not say there are any, but it would probably be the smaller ones.

These big networks as Full Tilt and Ipoker will loose so much if they ever got caught being rigged.

     
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For sure Ipoker is rigged, always when I have 72 and in fold the flop is 722, and when I bet with 72 the flop isn't 722. Blink

I wish i will get 1 cent on all online poker is rigged posts, then I'll quit online poker.
Bad Beats are a part of poker and variance is a bitch.

     
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Posted by RonHogen:
For sure Ipoker is rigged, always when I have 72 and in fold the flop is 722, and when I bet with 72 the flop isn't 722. Blink

I wish i will get 1 cent on all online poker is rigged posts, then I'll quit online poker.
Bad Beats are a part of poker and variance is a bitch.


Sure Ipoker is rigged, when i raise 72-off i ALWAYS flop 772, but hey, they like me Big Smile

     
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DONT play in the mansion poker room, the worst decision when i start playing there simply i cant win a single roll, why?? i dont know rigged or not, its not a good site! a shitty one unforutantley... Smile

     
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just deposited at ipoker again after a break. (given up on all other sites)

first sng. all the money goes in after i flopped 2 pair. 3 players in the hand - 2 players flop 2 pair and the 3rd flops a straight!!!
(j8 vs q8 vs 10 9 with a flop of Q8J). only seen that once before on the mega rigged full tilt.


     
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