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Posted by ih8usukouts: I don't know what to say, I have thought Pokerstars was rigged for a while. I have lost quite a few big hands to 4 of a kind. Once, I had poket KK's and a player had 9 4 os. I raised and he moved all in before the flop so I called putting myself all in. Well the flop was K 9 9. The turn and river were 9 9. I couldn't believe what I saw. Then 5 mins later at the same table the same person hit quad's again. I don't know what the odds are but I do see alot of quads on Pokerstars. Just my observation though. Good luck. I haven't seen quads to often on any other sites. Anyone else?
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0mblad0n on that 66 hand, what you expect the agressor to do in this flop after your check? Check behind and give up the hand? Minibet or bet half, 2/3 or 3/4 of the pot and fold when u push all-in? Overbet it putting you all-in and never suckout? I really dont get it! Maybe you should be on tilt! Go for a walk! Do a woman! Read a book! I don't know, but next time if you dont wanna to get sucked out just dont trap with a weak hand with near no equity to improve and a good fold equity if you donk bet it even if you think you are ahead! Try to make it hard to people to suckout you. And if you donk bet get called on this flop by just Q high put a track beacon on the guy and play him till he go broke!
But man, if you are been playing like this and people are always not improving on later streets i think you must be rigged!
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Posted by 0mblad0n: I see everybody leave comments about that hands.Know something,forget about that hands.I have posted that hands like an example of what's happening,maybe weren't the best hands to put,these were only the last rigged hands I played.There were hundred of hands more clearely like these that gived me the certitude that's something is wrong.And the guys who just talk no rigged,only variance etc maybe didn't play Ipoker.I know very good what means variance,downswings etc,they are part of the game,but at Ipoker is something different.These things happens in a way that you can't call bad luck,bad run or something like that,can call just lottery and not fair poker(to not say rigged,because you said it's not rigged.ok,then it's not fair poker).I played some years ago,before Mansion at Expekt Poker,another site of Ipoker network,and was the same thing,went on tilt and lost a lot of money.After that,I decided to not play poker a while.Three months ago signed up with this site and got 50$ at Mansion.I thought what's happend with Expekt was just my fault,went on tilt and lost my money.I thought everything it's ok with this Ipoker.But,after my Mansion experience I'm 100% sure everything it's wrong.And please post the people who plays or played for good period of time at Ipoker,not the people who never played or play for a week
Online poker isnt rigged for 100% sure. There can maybe some small network be a littl doubty but i wud say allways play at 1 off the bigger networks. So for Ipoker.... NOT rigged 100% sure, you problably had some nasty suckouts, 1outers, 2 outers or..... sry to say just really bad play. This doesnt mean Ipoker is rigged, Ms Variance can be very bitchy and you can have downswings for manths, on the other hand, you can also have upsings for months right? When u have a downswing many players start playing even WORSE, dont blame the site cos its definitly NOT rigged, but blame URSELF, try to find ur leaks.
1 off the most important rules in poker: - Maximize ur upswing! - Minimize ur downswing!
Most winning players are very good at maximize their upswing but they really sucky at minimize their downswing. Just remember that
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Posted by ih8usukouts: I don't know what to say, I have thought Pokerstars was rigged for a while. I have lost quite a few big hands to 4 of a kind. Once, I had poket KK's and a player had 9 4 os. I raised and he moved all in before the flop so I called putting myself all in. Well the flop was K 9 9. The turn and river were 9 9. I couldn't believe what I saw. Then 5 mins later at the same table the same person hit quad's again. I don't know what the odds are but I do see alot of quads on Pokerstars. Just my observation though. Good luck. I haven't seen quads to often on any other sites. Anyone else?
LMAO your opponent had 9,4 os. you had KK. Flop comes, K99 ok. Then turn 9 and river 9 giving your opponent five 9s haha. I see why you reckon the site is rigged, I'd be suss about that too
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Posted by ih8usukouts: I don't know what to say, I have thought Pokerstars was rigged for a while. I have lost quite a few big hands to 4 of a kind. Once, I had poket KK's and a player had 9 4 os. I raised and he moved all in before the flop so I called putting myself all in. Well the flop was K 9 9. The turn and river were 9 9. I couldn't believe what I saw. Then 5 mins later at the same table the same person hit quad's again. I don't know what the odds are but I do see alot of quads on Pokerstars. Just my observation though. Good luck. I haven't seen quads to often on any other sites. Anyone else?
Pre-flop: (90, 6 players) Hero is SB UTG raises to 120, UTG+1 calls 120, CO calls 120, BTN calls 120, Hero goes all-in 200, 1 fold, UTG raises to 1,020, UTG+1 goes all-in 1,960, CO folds, BTN folds, UTG goes all-in 550
Main Pot (900) UTG+1: 17.80% (EV = -$39.80) Hero: 11.30% (EV = -$98.30) UTG: 71.00% (EV = $439.00)
Side Pot #1 (2,740) UTG+1: 18.50% (EV = -$863.10) UTG: 81.50% (EV = $863.10)
Side Pot #2 (390) UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $0.00)
Flop: (4,300, 3 players)
Main Pot (900) UTG+1: 8.70% (EV = $78.30) Hero: 8.60% (EV = $77.40) UTG: 82.60% (EV = $743.40)
Side Pot #1 (2,740) UTG+1: 8.40% (EV = $230.16) UTG: 91.60% (EV = $2509.84)
Side Pot #2 (390) UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $390.00)
Turn: (4,300, 3 players)
Main Pot (900) UTG+1: 4.80% (EV = $43.20) Hero: 90.50% (EV = $814.50) UTG: 4.80% (EV = $43.20)
Side Pot #1 (2,740) UTG+1: 4.50% (EV = $123.30) UTG: 95.50% (EV = $2616.70)
Side Pot #2 (390) UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $390.00)
River: (4,300, 3 players)
Main Pot (900) UTG+1: 0.00% (EV = $0.00) Hero: 100.00% (EV = $900.00) UTG: 0.00% (EV = $0.00)
Side Pot #1 (2,740) UTG+1: 0.00% (EV = $0.00) UTG: 100.00% (EV = $2740.00)
Side Pot #2 (390) UTG+1: 100.00% (EV = $390.00)
Final Pot: 4,030 Hero shows: UTG shows: UTG+1 shows:
Hero wins 900 ( won +700 ) UTG wins 2,740 ( won +1,170 ) UTG+1 wins 390 ( lost -1,570 ) CO lost -120 BTN lost -120
i usually don't waste time writing in forums, in this case people just need to know not to play there unless they are total fish that's happy about slowly losing their money instead of quickly losing their money.
DONT play in the mansion poker room, the worst decision when i start playing there simply i cant win a single roll, why?? i dont know rigged or not, its not a good site! a shitty one unforutantley...
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just deposited at ipoker again after a break. (given up on all other sites)
first sng. all the money goes in after i flopped 2 pair. 3 players in the hand - 2 players flop 2 pair and the 3rd flops a straight!!! (j8 vs q8 vs 10 9 with a flop of Q8J). only seen that once before on the mega rigged full tilt.
($600, 2 players)
($600, 2 players)
($1,200, 2 players)
($1,620, 2 players)
($1,620, 2 players)
(4,300, 3 players)
(4,300, 3 players)
(4,300, 3 players)
