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Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 2025
its everywhere propagated as "the beginner" strategy (well not only, theres also pros playing sss but especially for beginners)
but how do you learn to play poker if you just push all-in with big pockets or AK ? and hope to hit. actually its just a coinflip if you push all-in with AK. prolly 60-40% on your side
i see so many sss players on PS who sit down with $5 or $10 (depends on the limit, but usualy always 20BB) and wait all day, while payin blind for blind, for big hands. and whenever they dare to raise (not all-in for a change) they get trapped by a check, then push all-in and lose their money. probably its because of intellipoker on how they teach them to play..?
is shortstack strategy rather meant for experienced players and a missguide for beginners ?
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 59 (M)
Posts: 6786
It is for beginners. With SSS you either done with the hand after the flop, or you are all-in. So rookies don't have to play later streets, where they would make the biggest mistakes.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 401
Seen it work, but when it goes bad it hurts as hell. Worked with me, but a downswing killed me. Followed the strategy without modifications, one or other missclick due to massive multitabling, but nothing that justifies the swing, and having a run of 1500hands without AA hurts a lot your winrate, and just stealing blinds with AA hurts much more.
Avoid it on iPoker, tight NL10 tables and to many SSS players, which makes it unprofitable. SSS only works in LAG tables, with a maniac on the table you hit the jackpot.
Joined: Jan '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 81
Think it is a good way to grow some bankroll when you are still a begginer. Easy to play, but i think not very profitable hand/100bb. The point of the strategy is not having too many difficult decisions to make. It can be a successfull strategy since the big stacks will ignore you (and your small stack) and make their decisions considering what the other big stacks in the table may have in their hand to maximize their profits.
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
Well I wouldent put it in any 1 of the catogrys, so ill not vote. SSS is not for anyone directly its just anouther stratergy on how to be a winning player, and not only used by ppl with small BR, but it boring and IMO bad poker and you will pick up bad habits playing SSS. Als with so many ppl doing it its very predictable and id guess not so profitable anymore.
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 45
If you can win money or not with playing SSS really depends on how your opponents are playing.. against tight players or players who are just aware of you playing SS, you're not gonna be able to win much money, but at micro-limits where some people will call your preflop 3bets (all-in) with any pair, or any ace, you will often be a huge favorite to double up... SSS is also a great way to earn a lot of loyalty points and complete bonuses
SSS is mathematically calculated to be the best strategy to make money at. It is based on getting your money in when you have a big hand...but it doesn't (and can not) take into account the player factors; traps, bluffs, etc. It is purely a beginner's strategy. I would never play it...not just because it's geared towards beginners, but because it requires you to play like a robot. All your moves are already determined for you and there is no leeway.
Joined: Jan '08
Location: Germany
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 153
it is definitely profitable. especially because people who don't really know what it is tend to think its a strategy for donkeys and that they can outplay them. normally it doesn't work for them (as long as the SSS is played correctly and with little adaptions). if you play SSS you often have sitiuations where your preflop all-in is called with lower pairs andweak aces. i wouldn't really say its a strategy for beginners only, but a strategy for taking money from beginners. oh and you can easily multitable (good for bonus clearing), because you play only a few hands and your decisions a really easy. i don't know how people react on SSS-players today (on some sides they are at every table), but a year ago (when i played it) you could make easy money on the micro-/lowstakes. i think tosay you need more tableselection, because it is no more profitable when 4 or 5 SSS-players are already at the table. and for those who use trackerprogramms it's a good way to get some stats when you are new on a limit
Posted by T3ddyKGB: probably its because of intellipoker on how they teach them to play..?
they are not the only pokerschool that teaches this strategy, but especially on pokerstars there are many (german) players who learned it there. i think they teach the most simple version of this strategy (they give startinghand charts and people think they win money only by playing these hands, but they are not able to make adaptions), but there are better versions. beginners also tend to play it because they can play higher limits than with a full stack
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 2025
i have been gone through their tests and videos. after all that i wasnt able to play "normal" poker for over 2 weeks lol
im not sure if its still that profitable as b1gfoot already mentioned it is too predictable. on the tables i play anyways none calls these all-ins ! so after a while they forced to raise instead to push all-in as you dont get every 2nd hand aces or kings. and then what..? your sss means you dont have enough blinds to make pressure. and if you raise then its most of the time no more a 1vs1 situation but 2or3 caller. perhaps its profitable if you have 30 tables open and you luckily find 2-3 maniacs who call your all-in with ducks.
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Belgium
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 45
that's not really correct, if you double up, you still won't be playing deepstacked ( you have about 40 BB then) and more important, the theory says to leave the table as soon as you have more than 25 BB
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Ireland
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 31
no matter what these great strategy sites tell u, this is possibly the worst way 2 play poker ever. Totally useless, Iv made tonnes off idiots who play dis "strategy" as far as Im concerned I hope d idiots keep doing it, more money 4 me!!!
Joined: Nov '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2194
SSS I belive is a viable stratergy and for a beginer it is a very good stratergy to ease you into a winning program. I do not think it is a coin flip as you will only play premium hands thus 8/10 be infront from the begining. SSS also gives you brilliant bankroll managment advice and makes it easeyer to controll your bankroll making it very clear when to move tables and when to dump cards faced with only the fact of others raising it does not allow for you to make your own decisions "reads" on others. SSS a winner for a beginer........ Yes its predictable and yes some times its very very very very very boring but if you want to play and win a little at a time... build your bankroll and learn the game them i would defo recomend this stratergy Also i belive if you are a slightly seasoned player you will find it very hard to play SSS correctly as you will have too many bad habits.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 469
It is a very good strategy specially to begginers. It is very useful to grow our initial bankroll to something like 150$ or 200$. The i guess we can lear another strategies and playing a most "skilled" poker! But it is a useful strategie because it works!
Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4873
I don't like sss, just takes the fun out of poker.it worked for me at 1-2 sites but in others i just kept on losing with it, but if you are a beginner it is good for you.u will lose more if you play urself
