Joined: Feb '09
Location: Netherlands
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 175
let's not beat around the bush on this issue: The swine flu vaccines now being prepared for mass injection into infants, children, teens and adults have never been tested and won't be tested before the injections begin. In Europe, where flu vaccines are typically tested on hundreds (or thousands) of people before being unleashed on the masses, the European Medicines Agency is allowing companies to skip the testing process entirely.
And yet, amazingly, people are lining up to take the vaccine, absent any safety testing whatsoever. When the National Institutes of Health in the U.S. announced a swine flu vaccine trial beginning in early August, it was inundated with phone calls and emails from people desperate to play the role of human guinea pigs. The power of fear to herd sheeple into vaccine injections is simply amazing...
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Notably, there is absolutely no safety data on the use of adjuvants in infants and expectant mothers -- the two groups being most aggressively targeted by the swine flu vaccine pushers. The leads us to the disturbing conclusion that the swine flu vaccine could be a modern medical disaster. It's untested and un-tried. Its ingredients are potentially quite dangerous, and the adjuvants being used in the European vaccines are suspected of causing neurological disorders.
The 10 things:
Ten things you're not supposed to know about the swine flu vaccine
(At least, not by anyone in authority...)
#1 - The vaccine production was "rushed" and the vaccine has never been tested on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for Big Pharma? If so, line up for your swine flu vaccine this fall...
#2 - Swine flu vaccines contain dangerous adjuvants that cause an inflammatory response in the body. This is why they are suspected of causing autism and other neurological disorders.
#3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine.
#4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so many people. And that means they really have no clue whether the upcoming vaccine might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're not testing it, either...)
#5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete immunity against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket immunity, drug companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because they only get paid based on quantity, not safety (zero liability).
#6 - No swine flu vaccine works as well as vitamin D to protect you from influenza. That's an inconvenient scientific fact that the U.S. government, the FDA and Big Pharma hope the people never realize.
#7 - Even if the swine flu vaccine actually works, mathematically speaking if everyone else around you gets the vaccine, you don't need one! (Because it can't spread through the population you hang with.) So even if you believe in the vaccine, all you need to do is encourage your friends to go get vaccinated...
#8 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of swine flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if you don't get the jab -- because it's all paid by the taxpayers.
#9 - When people start dying in larger numbers from the swine flu, rest assured that many of them will be the very people who got the swine flu vaccine. Doctors will explain this away with their typical Big Pharma logic: "The number saved is far greater than the number lost." Of course, the number "saved" is entirely fictional... imaginary... and exists only in their own warped heads.
#10 - The swine flu vaccine centers that will crop up all over the world in the coming months aren't completely useless: They will provide an easy way to identify large groups of really stupid people. (Too bad there isn't some sort of blue dye that we could tag 'em with for future reference...)
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Finland
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 1613
All who takes the vaccine will become flesh eating zombies, 2012 is closing in ... lol just kidding . The Swine flu is all about money money money. oink oink .
But what i have wondered a long time already is this ... WHAT is it that actually KILLS you when you get the swine flu ?
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Netherlands
Age: 54 (M)
Posts: 175
maybe you should reed this...
I did some research into flu viruses and found out a few interesting facts. Unlike other viruses such as polio or smallpox, which have DNA that mutates very slowly, flu viruses have RNA which is much more prone to mutation during reproduction. Like other viruses, flu virus RNA is surrounded by a protein shell that has specificly shaped proteins sticking out of the shell. Think of a soccer ball with spikes sticking out of it. These spikes, because of their unique shape, are able to attach themselves to a particular kind of receptor that in the case of flu, exist on lung cells. When a flu virus comes in contact with the right kind of receptor, it then injects it's RNA into the attached cell, and that RNA then cannibalizes that cells genetic material in order to make more spiked soccer balls. Eventually the cell dies from being taken apart from the inside but by then many, many copies of the virus have been released. Antibodies are different kinds of proteins that also have unique shapes and when the right kind of antibody comes into contact with the right kind of virus, it attaches itself to one of the spikes, thereby preventing that spike from 'docking' with a cell's receptor. When the body makes millions of copies of the same antibody, than all of the spikes on a virus are blocked.
Flu viruses have 8 genes. If a host cell has two different viruses inside it at the same time, then it's possible for those two viruses to swap genes or pieces of genes from each other to produce a completely new strain. The 1918 spanish flu was a combination of human and swine flu. Not all combinations are viable. In other words, some combinations of genes are incapable of reproducing. It therefore stands to reason that the more strains of flu are present in the same host cell, the more possible combinations of genes you could get and the less likely it is that a particular new strain would be viable and able to reproduce itself instead of disappearing.
So this new swine flu strain that started in Mexico (by the way, almost all new flu strains start in the far east and move westward), has been determined to have genetic material from three different swine flus(from different parts of the world), one human flu and one strain of (asian) bird flu. That means that all five viruses had to have been in not only the same (human/animal) body at the same time but also the very same cell at the same time AND have combined in just the right way so that the new virus is capable of reproducing itself. ON the face of it, pretty unlikely to have occurred naturally. Extremely so in fact.
Flu vaccines made from last winter's flu strains are only partially effective against similar strains because some but not all of the antibodies produced by the vaccine will actually block the spikes from docking with the receptors. But antibodies generated from ordinary flu vaccines, will be almost useless against completely new strains such as this new swine flu. Healthy immune systems produce more antibodies(of various shapes) all the time (compared to weak systems) and therefore may have enough of the right kind to nip a new infection in the bud or at least slow it down so that the symptoms are mild.
Typical symptoms of a flu are a) high fever, b) muscle or joint pain c) headaches d) congestion. There is a growing body of anecdotal evidence as well as clinical evidence in Europe, that high fevers have a beneficial side effect of killing off any cells in the body that are cancerous. At least one clinic in Germany has been curing cancer patients for years by inducing a temporary fever using high frequency radio waves(along with other therapies as well).
Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
Posts: 6714
Sad but true, i belive most tests done with mice/rats show ther is a high risk of rhumatroid arthritus. the vaxcine itself poses more problems than swine flu, the whole thing is a joke, its causing less problems than normall flu. Its a big joke.
Joined: Oct '08
Location: Germany
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 2025
till now 90% or more of the infected by swineflu survived, or am i missinformed ? i remember a case in germany. they tried out a "harmeless" vaccine on 10 people. 2 of them died, 6 of them had a extreme swollen head and other body parts and fighted for their life. so no thanks, except when it comes to the crunch.
about #7...doubt that. but just in case im gonna persuade my friends to take it lol
. The Swine flu is all about money money money. oink oink .
