Joined: Sep '07
Location: Sweden
Age: 48 (M)
Posts: 244
Hmmm every time someone loses they start talking about pokersites being rigged.. Me to unfortunately. But i know that is the fact. It would be so easy for a Pokernetwork to deal only playable starting hands to get things started and make rake from every single hand dealt. But that would be stupid. Here is some toughts from me. What can a pokerroom profit from being rigged. And only let a few players win. If you are broke you cant play. If you dont play you dont generate Rake. No rake means no profit for pokerroom.
This is copied and pasted from my reply to another "online poker is rigged" thread:
It really really REALLY annoys me when people who get beat badly go off saying that poker sites are rigged!!! THEY'RE NOT EFFIN RIGGED!!! They have to adhere to high standards of security and reliability, and if they slip up then there are laws which either fine them rediculous amounts of money, or put them out of business. These sites make millions a year. Do you think it really makes a difference if they rig a low stakes game???!!! NO. It's not worth risking their entire operation for a few stinkin dollars. Grow a brain please. That will be all.
Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4873
Even if you do ten studies i won't believe that online poker is rigged. i am not in profit at all the sites i play but in total i am in profit. and if you think its rigged then how do u explain ppl who are in big profit? and for some people to win, some have to lose too.
Joined: May '09
Location: Canada
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 5
maybe it seems rigged because you play too many hands ive on some tables were 90 hands an hour were dealt....that`s 90 chances of going broke if you play losely...
i am unfortunately not in the big winners circle but i have in the past made 5 times my initial deposit...
and if you have been playing for 5 years and still not winning they buy a book and study the strategie behind the game...
Joined: Jun '09
Location: Romania
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 94
Posted by tugafire1: i play online poker over 5 years now! me and 10 others pokerplayers friends made a study based in the folowing poker sites: pokerstars;t6poker(closed);roxiopoker(closed);bestpoker;partypoker;gearpoker;sportsbook;carbon poker;paradise poker;celeb poker;holywood poker;mansion poker;cake poker;pokerworld;doyles room;purplelounge poker;gnuf poker;pokertime;;titan poker;everest poker;cd poker;pacific poker;poker 770;ultimate poker;ladbrokes poker;paddy power pokerand poker loco. the study was made in 24 online poker rooms!!!! The conclusion was the same in all of them:RIGGED!!.despite all the marketing that those pokerrooms made with "employees"poker players sayng that win "lots of money"to atracct more depositing players the reality is very different. maybe we're wrong with our conclusion.this "alert"is for you onlinepoker players to look at yourself and base your conclusions in yourselfs(bad luck hands!!)and not in "avulse" testimonials. we are sure that ALL OF YOU that play for some time ALL OF YOU lost money in online poker(dispite you are a good or bad poker player).what are your oppinion?
I'm happy that you didn't made your study at Full Tilt .I think they are very fair.I've had some problems and situations when I thought everythink it's against me when I played at Ipoker.Some times I thought I couldn't make profit anymore.I didn't like Ipoker,but Mansion was the only "no deposit bankroll" for me.I made some money and after that I moved to Full Tilt and it's good here
It is not only that all poker sites are rigged, but also all sites affiliated to online poker are rigged. For example this site www.bankrollmob.com EVERY TIME I ATTEMPT TO CRACK THE SAFE I GET A BAD BEAT. Every time I guess almost right, but one digit is always wrong Come on, give us clean online poker industry!!!!
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 3207
jus happend to win $400 a few min ago on this rigged nonsense...... man i hate money only thing worse than knowing how to actually play poker is this s**t um on....... just wont go away
alright ppl...im conducting a study!!...lets see how long/how many more poker rigged nonsense is gonna hit brm...im guessin 100 000 000 ....these results are based on a few beer and this thread...pretty accurate?
Look up certain players like myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at sharkscope or official pokerrankings And you can see that is not true I had my bad beats 2day and still think it isn't rigged!!!!! because I know that you are a player that only depends on the cards you got dealt and not look 4 certain situations 2 resteal very agressive players put opponents on handranges steal blinds from the passive ones etc etc If you lose a lot on non showdown winnings it is hard when you are not good 2 break even on showdowns and that is your point Try 2 play poker on a higher level
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Posted by tugafire1: the intention of poker rooms are to put you broke,in order to you deposit more money,understand? worl like this:first you win,then you lose!!
If everyone is broke no more players and if there were only players who lose the pokermarket would collaps instantly! no brains
------------ And possible you are the top 2% of worst players because the rest of people here don't think the same!!!!
------------ And last but not least !!!!!!!!! PORTUGAL isnt known for its well educated people
Oh dear dear me... yet again someone comes along with conclusive evidence that poker is rigged. Their evidence.. a negative ROI, lots of losses and countless tales of bad beats..
Sadly though, in any court of law this would literally be laughed off as another hard done by player trying to palm off their losses as them being robbed and bleating to anyone who will listen.
Firstly, I would ask this, why would the poker sites rig online poker ? Unless you are Tom Dwaan on mega tilt, they have little or nothing to gain from rigging poker. Lets not forget this money isnt theirs. If you lose it, someone else wins it. All they get is the rake, and if the results were reversed and you won and the other play lost, they would get exactly the same sum of money. Not a cent more, not a cent less... Unless of course you are one of these idiots that believe losing players pay more rake to sites than winning players.. then of course I take you outside, and hit you over the head with a blunt instrument to try knock seven bells of common sense into you.
A winning player is in fact far more lucrative to a poker site than a losing player. WHen a player loses their bankroll they make nothing. If he wins then he carries on playing and they make money..
In the words of that great philosopher... IF YOU CANT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE THICK AS A VAT OF PIGSHIT..
Right so now we've eliminated the possibility of it being rigged for the poker sites financial benefit, lets look at other reasons why they may rig it..... welll erm.... erm.. errrr... Actually there isnt one logical reason on gods earth why they would do it... Unless of course you are suggesting half those names you see at pokersites are in fact cybermen created by pokersites, and they are controlled by a super-computer tucked neatly away in the pokersites head office... If this is in fact what you are suggesting then I can recommend two things..
1) Star Wars 2) 2001 Space oddessy
Either of these should fit snugly into the sci-fi world you exist in however I must point out that sadly R2-D2 is crap at No limit Holdem and C-3PO unfortunately cant play as he blew his bankroll when he blew a circuit and went all in with 5-2 offsuit whilst playing a $1000 Heads up match against Darth Vadar after being challenged for the secret notes for the death star. In the end they took the easy way out to determine whether the stolen plans should be returned.. Sadly, as mentioned C-3PO lost and as I speak the Death Star should be just about above your planet now. Lucky for us we live on planet earth and you dont... Do no fear.. the end is painless and it could be alot worse... Imagine what would happen if they sent down a Terminator... By all accounts Arnie is dead against online gaming... Imagine the s**t you would be in then.
So where do we go from here... well clearly I think you have issues that need resolving. It would be pointless me trying to convince you that poker isnt rigged. You have most probably already e-mailed the poker sites telling them of your concerns. Sadly those e-mails were intercepted by the FBI. Any subsequent phone calls will of course have been tapped and they are in fact reading this very message as I type it.
But do not be alarmed, that van outside your front door with the aerial poking out the top is nothing to be scared of, and the man in the grey coat you see diving behind his copy of the New York Times every time you turn round is merely a fan of yours awiting for the day you will invite him to a training session on how to play world class Omaha...
Do not believe those that tell you that you lost because you are simply no good at poker.. I do not believe them. I've been watching you for weeks, now, taking notes, and seeing what hole cards you have had... I'm always watching you... never forget.. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU... you needn't worry. I know everything there is to know about you....
And believe me, the poker sites have nothing to fear from you.......
only thing worse than knowing how to actually play 
