Joined: Jun '10
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how the hell can you guys be so sure that online poker isn't rigged? are you guys paid by them? seriously, its obvious that anyone with half a brain can tell online poker is rigged. how often are runner runners for 3 outers? i'll tell you, its less than 1 percent. yet within 3 hands i can see 2 hands that played out like that. runner runners are so fucking common. yes poker is a game of surprise and upsets but what i see on online poker, i never seen in real life, be it my own experience, my friend's experience, seasons and seasons of poker on tv, wsop, etc.. some people just go all in in tourneys with hands like 10 4 and they keep getting trips, full houses, four of a kinds, and even royal flush! same tourney, same fella. you can say joe cada is extremely lucky in wsop but those guys on online poker is 10 times luckier!
and of course, poker sites have EVERYTHING to gain from rigging. they know for sure people who lose will want to chase their losses back. they got u to win from this poor fella, let that poor fella put in more deposit, and then bust you out to another guy, so u will deposit money, and this goes on and on. and as long as u win sometimes but lost big, statistically, they are safeguarded and wont be afraid of any lawsuit cos well, u did win sometimes, albeit little. if not, how do u think poker sites can earn money by giving rakebacks, free no deposit offers, up to 200% for deposits, freerolls, etc? and they earn fucking billions that an unknown like cada, before he went to his first wsop, was sponsored to the tune of 1 million bucks. and they sponsors so many other players too. of course some people are made to win so they can be success stories, and be the face of the poker sites. and the rest who aren't chosen will be made to lose. think about it. if you get busted after devoting so much time and energy in online poker, won't you put in deposits again and try to win it back? this is what online poker is hoping for, which is why they try to bust you out before u get enough loyalty points to get your bonus.
and they wont be caught cos most aren't regulated anyway. even so, it is hard to prove that poker sites are sucking you out cos it is a fucking huge difference between 2 extremes of statistical possibility!
people who support online poker are either favoured by the sites, plain lucky, employees of the sites, or just retards who have zero concept of math. can you guys stop painting this world we're in as such a happy place where everything is fair and right? fucking retards all... think about how u are going to make money if you started out a poker site and i'm damn sure if you offer free deposits, rakebacks, and stuff, you'll be broke within weeks.
Posted by shortstacker: how the hell can you guys be so sure that online poker isn't rigged? are you guys paid by them? seriously, its obvious that anyone with half a brain can tell online poker is rigged. how often are runner runners for 3 outers? i'll tell you, its less than 1 percent. yet within 3 hands i can see 2 hands that played out like that. runner runners are so fucking common. yes poker is a game of surprise and upsets but what i see on online poker, i never seen in real life, be it my own experience, my friend's experience, seasons and seasons of poker on tv, wsop, etc.. some people just go all in in tourneys with hands like 10 4 and they keep getting trips, full houses, four of a kinds, and even royal flush! same tourney, same fella. you can say joe cada is extremely lucky in wsop but those guys on online poker is 10 times luckier!
and of course, poker sites have EVERYTHING to gain from rigging. they know for sure people who lose will want to chase their losses back. they got u to win from this poor fella, let that poor fella put in more deposit, and then bust you out to another guy, so u will deposit money, and this goes on and on. and as long as u win sometimes but lost big, statistically, they are safeguarded and wont be afraid of any lawsuit cos well, u did win sometimes, albeit little. if not, how do u think poker sites can earn money by giving rakebacks, free no deposit offers, up to 200% for deposits, freerolls, etc? and they earn fucking billions that an unknown like cada, before he went to his first wsop, was sponsored to the tune of 1 million bucks. and they sponsors so many other players too. of course some people are made to win so they can be success stories, and be the face of the poker sites. and the rest who aren't chosen will be made to lose. think about it. if you get busted after devoting so much time and energy in online poker, won't you put in deposits again and try to win it back? this is what online poker is hoping for, which is why they try to bust you out before u get enough loyalty points to get your bonus.
and they wont be caught cos most aren't regulated anyway. even so, it is hard to prove that poker sites are sucking you out cos it is a fucking huge difference between 2 extremes of statistical possibility!
people who support online poker are either favoured by the sites, plain lucky, employees of the sites, or just retards who have zero concept of math. can you guys stop painting this world we're in as such a happy place where everything is fair and right? fucking retards all... think about how u are going to make money if you started out a poker site and i'm damn sure if you offer free deposits, rakebacks, and stuff, you'll be broke within weeks.
Ok, first things first: you are the retard and you are extremely tilting! Online poker has more showdowns, online poker has a lot of retards who learned how to spend money on the internet and mainly want to get lucky and get their kicks from busting your better hand (in this situation you are the bank and the bank does not always win), 1% from 100 hands is 1 time, 1% from 1000 hands is 10 times and sometimes a couple of times in a row. It's not really real money, you don't walk away from your comp with your winnings/money in your pockets and a whole bunch of more things I can think of why there are more runnerrunners and other 'onehitwonders' but youre tilting, so no need and im tired, so no desire. Stop playing online poker, thats what I would do if I believed it to be rigged, why would I commit myself to a game I know cannot be beat.. I am not a donkey..
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Singapore
Age: 37 (M)
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oh so what does this mean? donkeys will eventually rule online poker and the better players will eventually bleed? i actually was tilting once and i got so fed up, i went all in on every 2 cards. any 2 cards. then eventually some brave heroes calls me. out of 11 times, i won 9, all on worse hands, and made a pile. i busted this fella's king pair with a 7 trips and i only got one 7 in my pockets, and that costs him 30 bucks. 9 out of 11, all on worse hands. beautiful. i made so much out of it, it is an amount which i had never ever won before. think about it. i can make beautiful straights and trips on absurb hands. try doing that in real life and i'm sure you'll be busted within 3 hands, and thats if you're lucky.
Posted by shortstacker: oh so what does this mean? donkeys will eventually rule online poker and the better players will eventually bleed? i actually was tilting once and i got so fed up, i went all in on every 2 cards. any 2 cards. then eventually some brave heroes calls me. out of 11 times, i won 9, all on worse hands, and made a pile. i busted this fella's king pair with a 7 trips and i only got one 7 in my pockets, and that costs him 30 bucks. 9 out of 11, all on worse hands. beautiful. i made so much out of it, it is an amount which i had never ever won before. think about it. i can make beautiful straights and trips on absurb hands. try doing that in real life and i'm sure you'll be busted within 3 hands, and thats if you're lucky.
Yes, but how many times have you used this 'strategy' and how many times did you win 9 out of 11 times. See, no question mark cause I know the answer. The donkeys will not rule online poker if you look at earnings, they allready rule online poker because there are a lot more off them at the tables than there are truely solid players so you will see the donkeys win more but that's only because there are more donkeys and mostly they win from other donkplayers or nits. It's just like I told a friend: you suck at poker, only time when you win is when other players make huge mistakes or against all odds!
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Singapore
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alright alright.. i'm not going to use that strategy again cos i was really on fire then.. i'm not saying i'm the best but i know i'm not a donk. and of cos, i love poker and i really do hope that i can trust online poker since its the most available form. i hope.
Joined: May '10
Location: Slovenia
Age: 39 (M)
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hm, did you ever think about where the money that we (meaning the winningplayers) win comes from? it is not money from the pokersites that just like us more than you, its from guys like you that just play worse than us
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Canada
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Hi I sometimes wonder if its rigged,to really find out,you would have to play thousands of hands,I mean over 10k ,then you can see the data and try to determine. Also some poker sites tell you they have independant auditors to watch their poker software,but who really knows,since most poker sites are in shady countries,where they cant be prosecuted for online gambling. All I can say is,If you really think its rigged,then keep your $$,because if you believe its a scam,then you `are throwing your $$ away. I dont think its rigged,but there are poker players that cheat,so maybe it seems like its rigged to you sometimes. I lost and won $ in poker,I have never lost more than a few houndred dollars in one night,but also i have won $3k in 1 hand before!! As long as you are having a good time and not losing your life savings and keep poker under control,then its all good This is my 2 cents of input towards rigged poker.
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Poland
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Guys who can't win anything at Poker... just end with it it's not for you and stop whining... Will be much easier... go and find something u're good into...
They once caught a guy with cheating. He worked for the pokersite and could see the hole cards. He got caught because of this kind of sites. People talk to each other and once u get caught. And poker sites makes millions each month of rake only.
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
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we play poker online just for fun becouse u must be very lucky all the time then u play poker on online sites and if u have only some luck not huge u ll not win many money or other so u play just for fun and for relax for money earning iplay real poker in casinos its more better one and its really cool
Joined: Jun '10
Location: United States
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, it seems everyone who cant become a millionaire in poker overnight say the sites are rigged. bad beats and losses happen in poker. we are all at the mercy of the draw. sh1t happens man. if youve done a study on all those poker sites where is ur evidence? i seriously doubt that you and your friends have a bankroll large enough to make sizeable deposits at every single online poker site. thats not possible. i dont believe you, we dont believe you. maybe you should try a new career instead of making false claims based on invisible evidence man.
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i had times too were i´ve thinking online poker is rigged and i think many others players too.But i think is not right.I´ve played many years online, in the last years i play more live and had very good winnings in live games more in the years before i played online.For me is different online poker is not real poker u can not see the players, a software generate the cards,and u can not use all the skill´s that u must have to playing good poker.I see it many times in casino´s u see a online player maybe the first time in a casino and they have no skills to playing live poker.These players are easy money for live poker players.In live games they can not hide behind the screen at home and u got fantastic reads on many online players.In online poker i win sometimes but not so often as in live so games ,so i decide for me online is only a training room when i will win coutinuesly i must play live.So i´m a live player not a really good online player and so i think as give 3 different kinds of poker players ,Live players,Online Players and Live/Online Players.You must know self where u make the best money.When you are a good online player and not so good live player play online.When u better play live play live.A good online player they lost a lot of money in live games can say too live poker is rigged Btw.:maybe i´m not so good online why i´m playing only low limits online maybe not but i want not risk too much money online and never change a winning team
Joined: May '10
Location: Belarus
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the funniest topic ever! XD haven't the author heared about the LAWS? poker-room holders are not idiots to risk their business! and have he heard that there are some good books to read before going all-in? hahaha!
what a marcor! hahaha! tell this in Hague! hahahaha
Good noon everybody After spending an amazing week in South Italy, in Torre dell'Orso - Alimini ( near Lecce ), I'm tanned, relaxed and I feel like having fun so much So, thanks for helping me to do it with threads like this
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Ofcourse online poker is rigged. We all know that.
At any poker room, it is not posible to make big money with $10 or $20 deposit. If you want big money, you must deposit big and depositing more than once.
Maybe one in a million depositors could make thousands of dollars/euros with first deposit.
At ipoker network, I noticed a pattern. With $20 deposit, one could go upto $50-60, than going down. It doesn't matter if you playing omaha, texas holdem or s'n'g.
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, it seems everyone who cant become a millionaire in 
