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  5-Aug-09, 05:24   #1
How to Stop Father(gambler) to stop poker ? 0 
Beno192555 
Joined: Jul '09
Location: Germany
Age: 29 (M)
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Hi dudes like in the Headline said allready, my Father Play and Play poker with his on Money he Lose Everytime All his **** money ^^ and ask me how im a lóngterm winningplayer i say him how to but he dont wanna hear and say he has his own style how to shut his **** up to stop tipps would be nice
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and sorry about my bad english

     
  5-Aug-09, 07:10   #2
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mcsnakey765 

Joined: Jan '09
Location: Australia
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I would tell u one thing you have to do a one 1 tournament deal witch means you say to him ok did if u final table this tournament u can keep playing but if he s**t and bombs out early tel him he has to stop playing for good may i recomend making it the WCOOP $109 NL holdem the tournament?

     
  5-Aug-09, 10:06   #3
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PokerJosh 

Joined: Jul '09
Location: Germany
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Posted by Beno192555:
Hi dudes like in the Headline said allready, my Father Play and Play poker with his on Money he Lose Everytime All his **** money ^^ and ask me how im a l�ngterm winningplayer i say him how to but he dont wanna hear and say he has his own style how to shut his **** up to stop tipps would be nice
#
and sorry about my bad english

The problem is that you are in a father-son relationship. he didn't see your advices as that usefull as they are, because he probably think he has to be more clever then you, 'cause he is older and your father.
The best way, probably would be to take him to your local help station and mayby they can show him that he has a problem.
But getting him to go there is a though job and you have to think about the right strategie.
Good look.

In german (so I can underline my point to him):
Also wie gesagt, das Problem ist, dass er dich als (natürlich) als Sohn sieht und denkt das er weiser ist als du allein schon durch das Alter und du ihm auch nichts zu sagen hast. Desswegen wirst du Ihn alleine nur schwer dazu bringen, sich einzugestehen das er ein Problem hat und sich hilfe zu suchen.
Am besten du gehst ersteinmal alleine zu deiner örtlichen Beratungsstelle und informierst dich wie du weiter vorgehen kannst. Die haben da eine Menge Erfahrung und dem entsprechende Strategien.
Dann solltest du (wahrscheinlich) dein Vater dazu bringen ebenfalls dort hinzugehen und sich beraten zu lassen, vieleicht auch in einem Gespräch ohne dich (vieleicht fällt es ihm dann leichter sein Problem einzusehen).
Aber ihn dahinzubewegen ist eine schweres Stück Arbeit, da Menschen sich ungern eingestehen, dass sie ein Problem haben. Aber es ist auf jeden Fall machbar.
Viel Erfolg.

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  5-Aug-09, 11:12   #4
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shokaku 

Joined: May '08
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If he wants to play poker and you are sure to be the better player , play him heads up. So the money will stay in the family. Big Smile

     
  5-Aug-09, 12:03   #5
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awood88 
Joined: Feb '08
Location: United Kingdom
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The way I see it, there is a distinction here, which I don't think you have made clear. Is your father
a gambling addict
or
someone who likes to play poker but sucks at it

You say he loses his money every time and asks you for advice. So he knows he's a bad player? I'm sorry but if he's losing money he can afford and he enjoys the thrill then there's not much you can do. If he's fine about it, then you must stop going on like you're so much better than him because you're one of the few winning poker players. If there were no losers you wouldn't make any money. Don't forget you could be robbing someone else of their last penny.

If however he's a gambling addict; you should try to get him help. Most addicts do not always lose. they occasionally win to give them the high that they need and desperately want when they are losing. they are mostly deluded that things will change, that they are good players.

Do you really think poker could ruin your father's life. If honestly yes you must try and get him help. But I don't think you are the right person to give him advice because:

You are his son (advice normally goes the other way)
You are young and inexperienced (to him)
You are a poker player (winner or loser)
You would not give up poker
You are not trained to give advice
You are a biased judge and emotionally involved

     
  5-Aug-09, 12:15   #6
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Flangel 

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Posted by shokaku:
If he wants to play poker and you are sure to be the better player , play him heads up. So the money will stay in the family. Big Smile


This is a serious issue I wouldnt really make fun of it Confused

its very common, and those who deny it are the worst

I admit I gamble (Poker, Sidebets, Props) not roulette or slots tho ( i get fooking crazy of those things)


     
  5-Aug-09, 12:20   #7
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
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Posted by shokaku:
If he wants to play poker and you are sure to be the better player , play him heads up. So the money will stay in the family. Big Smile


Was thinking the same Big Smile

     
  5-Aug-09, 15:04   #8
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fochizza 

Joined: May '08
Location: Belgium
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Posted by Flangel:
Posted by shokaku:
If he wants to play poker and you are sure to be the better player , play him heads up. So the money will stay in the family. Big Smile


This is a serious issue I wouldnt really make fun of it Confused

its very common, and those who deny it are the worst

I admit I gamble (Poker, Sidebets, Props) not roulette or slots tho ( i get fooking crazy of those things)


Well it is a solid solution Blink

     
  5-Aug-09, 16:12   #9
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PokerJosh 

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Posted by shokaku:
If he wants to play poker and you are sure to be the better player , play him heads up. So the money will stay in the family. Big Smile


That's solution, too xD

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  5-Aug-09, 18:08   #10
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B1gfoot 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
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1. He is an adult and able to do what he wants with his dosh, its his to waste, dont worry about it unless he is coming to you for a loan.
2. Shokakus Ideay Thumbs Up
3. Get him to play low stakes so the loss is nothing to worry about.
4. Look on the bright side he can only lose all his money once then he has to stop. Big Smile
5. No inhentence for you best pick your game up lol.

     
  5-Aug-09, 19:16   #11
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xixi 
Joined: Oct '07
Location: Argentina
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Posted by shokaku:
If he wants to play poker and you are sure to be the better player , play him heads up. So the money will stay in the family. Big Smile


AGREE

Big Smile

     
  5-Aug-09, 19:45   #12
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Beno192555 
Joined: Jul '09
Location: Germany
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nice and funny posts ;D here ^^

with the lowstakes i tryed allready i said f**k man you play 3 hours and lose 250 euro ( 360 dollar ) go to lowtables nl10 then he said wtf i dont play for penny and go back to nl400 or nl1000 ^^ hes crazy Big Smile
I can laugh because my parents are divorsed i life by my mother and have enouth money ...
but its not nice to see how a fish is in my family ^^ he can better give me the money to get a better bankroll for 10 % of winninjgs or so Smile

     
  5-Aug-09, 21:01   #13
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mindhacker76 
Joined: Jan '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 81
Well, find out his account password and go responsible gamming. Then, just click"Do no allow me to play anymore".

Then he is gone.

     
  5-Aug-09, 21:18   #14
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DaneMitic 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Germany
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Posted by Beno192555:
nice and funny posts ;D here ^^

with the lowstakes i tryed allready i said f**k man you play 3 hours and lose 250 euro ( 360 dollar ) go to lowtables nl10 then he said wtf i dont play for penny and go back to nl400 or nl1000 ^^ hes crazy Big Smile
I can laugh because my parents are divorsed i life by my mother and have enouth money ...
but its not nice to see how a fish is in my family ^^ he can better give me the money to get a better bankroll for 10 % of winninjgs or so Smile

"but its not nice to see how a fish is in my family" LOL... sounds familiar to me, because my bro is a fish, too... he got some funny theories about poker and his favorite hand is 24s, do i need to say more? I guess, no... Big Smile
Like some ppl alrdy said, make him play HU against you and take his moniez... it stays in the family at least.. Big Smile

     
  5-Aug-09, 21:55   #15
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Beno192555 
Joined: Jul '09
Location: Germany
Age: 29 (M)
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ye Smile ill do this he has a friend hes the same fish ;D i will go to 1vs1vs1 vs them Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile i need money im young xD Big Smile

     
  5-Aug-09, 22:48   #16
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twinsun 
Joined: Aug '08
Location: Germany
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 353
Posted by shokaku:
If he wants to play poker and you are sure to be the better player , play him heads up. So the money will stay in the family. Big Smile

That's the way it would be the best Smile

     
  6-Aug-09, 10:05   #17
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cyclonisz2 

Joined: Oct '07
Location: Australia
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 405
yes i agree he feels imasculated and not smart having to listen to you and doesnt take your advice, try and give him advice in a nice way not sounding condescending to him. if that doesn't work he might have to take lessons online or somewhere else. good luck.

     
  6-Aug-09, 13:22   #18
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scl1975 

Joined: Mar '08
Location: Australia
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man thats a sorry situation,but hes a big boy and can look after himself.what a sukker tho,if he asking you how to be winning playe,then he realy does suck.ditch the dad and get a girlfriend.your inheritance is gone anyway son of fishmonger.

     
  6-Aug-09, 15:46   #19
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PokerJosh 

Joined: Jul '09
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But if your father is such a fish, then you should take your mother and go with her to Vegas, maybe she is the one who gave you the skill ^^

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  7-Aug-09, 19:32   #20
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Beno192555 
Joined: Jul '09
Location: Germany
Age: 29 (M)
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Big Smile my mother played 1 time and won jackpot on a luckmashine Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile: but then she left and took the winnings ^^ ;D

     
  7-Aug-09, 19:42   #21
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fochizza 

Joined: May '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 467
Buy him some poker books for his birthday or whatever occasion Blink

     
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