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Hello today i had a very interesting hand.It was bubble time in a 5$ DoN and the thing seemed to be clear: 2 with stack ~1700( me) 2 with Stack ~ 3000 1 BS with ~4800 1 small stack ~800
smallstack reraised allin and get a caller of the 2900-stacks he won that with AA against AK and now 3 were ~1700 the next hand the guy who lost with AK shoved and my hole cards were QQ i thought ok he lost the coinflip and could be on a little tilt and push any 2 or he want to build up his shrinked stack with a blind+ante-steal...
what would you do in this situation?
fold and hope to stay top5 if one get busted out ( i knew this is the correct decision but i didnt do this) call and get busted or be in a comfortable situation?
this was the first time at this table i got such good cards... only crap and had to do some moves to stay alive ( completely the opposite to the other table playing same time..)
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Insta shove call.
Dont be afraid of being bubbled, unless ur playing with scared money.
QQ = made hand Preflop, even against AK ur 70-30 favo Prolly tilting coz he overrated his AK again ( like many players do) Especially when U didnt had good cards : Easy decision for me.
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Posted by Flangel: QQ = made hand Preflop, even against AK ur 70-30 favo
LOL 70:30 with Qs versus AK might want to check that out again. You are about 54:46 in that situation. Despite that fact, everything else you said is completely spot on. I wouldn't fold in that situation very often if ever.
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70:30 is QQvsAQ (as is JJvs AT)
and QQ vs AK is around ~55:45 If the AK is suited I think it comes down to 53:47
Not 100% on that though!
I as well am calling an all in to any one raiser in pretty much any situation, bubble or not. You gotta have some gamble in this game and unless you can put him on AA/KK ship it.
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Posted by pokerpaul198:
Posted by Flangel: QQ = made hand Preflop, even against AK ur 70-30 favo
LOL 70:30 with Qs versus AK might want to check that out again. You are about 54:46 in that situation. Despite that fact, everything else you said is completely spot on. I wouldn't fold in that situation very often if ever.
Oh Huge FookUp by me Drunko tho Posted it somehwere in one the topics :s Rightop aboit that one.
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Instant shove. What hands u want to play, when you fold QQ? To wait for AA!? Better to be once the bubble-boy, then to loose always because of being passive.
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In a DoN at the bubble this is a fold. It may be even a fold with AA. Let the other players bust each other out. Shove yourself, if you are first to act but be VERY reluctant to call a shove.
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Posted by shokaku: In a DoN at the bubble this is a fold. It may be even a fold with AA. Let the other players bust each other out. Shove yourself, if you are first to act but be VERY reluctant to call a shove.
Why folding? Its clear the mofo was on tilto. As I was right coz he showed K9. Don't be afraid of a gamble imho
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Posted by Flangel: Don't be afraid of a gamble imho
That is not the right way to play a DoN. Busting out is no option in those. Fold is the right move, when it is more likely that you make it in the money by folding than by calling.
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Cud be right, I don't play those M%M¨%£%MM DON's. Still, I would'nt fold against that player. maybe other ones , deffo, but not against someone who just lost
Posted by Flangel: Don't be afraid of a gamble imho
That is not the right way to play a DoN. Busting out is no option in those. Fold is the right move, when it is more likely that you make it in the money by folding than by calling.
Totaly agree!
Small stack have only 800 left and ChoonT have 1700.
I don't know what the blinds are at, but if this is late you can wait he out on the blinds. No need to become better than nr. 5 in a DoN.
Posted by Flangel: Don't be afraid of a gamble imho
That is not the right way to play a DoN. Busting out is no option in those. Fold is the right move, when it is more likely that you make it in the money by folding than by calling.
Depends on the situation, especially on his sitting position and the blinds (why are there no information about the blind-level?^^). If you got a low blind level and the table is very agressiven then I would fold. But if the BB is up to 300 or 500, then I would call, 'cause you can't hope for the other to get busted out (they can be up very fast on high blind-levels) and if you skip this one (maybe he was even on the blind? Like I said, informations missing here) you might get blinded out faster then you think. So depends on the situation, but I think I would rather call. And the call was a good call to, only bad lucked, but that's poker.
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yep always go for it.if you dont call you never know.all depends on the situation.shove like a monkey.if you dont go for it why play the game.all in or die.
Posted by Flangel: Don't be afraid of a gamble imho
That is not the right way to play a DoN. Busting out is no option in those. Fold is the right move, when it is more likely that you make it in the money by folding than by calling.
Totaly agree!
Small stack have only 800 left and ChoonT have 1700.
I don't know what the blinds are at, but if this is late you can wait he out on the blinds. No need to become better than nr. 5 in a DoN.
Add(didn't saw your post): The Small stack doubled up in the round before.
hope this helps
