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"Players can cash out at any time once their bankroll has exceeded $50 and they have accumulated 700 VIP points."
So i have now $88 and more than 700 vip points now im tying to make a cashout of $50 and support of bigbetpoker told me..
"Win: You received $35 for the current level of Bankroll Mob promo you are at. If you try to withdraw, you will lose that amount you received."
late he toldme is not only the $35, also the last $ i recieve from the last lvl...
i know if i make a cash out ill be disqualified... but take the money back?.. no sense..
so isnt easy get 700 points with S&g, no w the will take my money off?
is not so good promo rly....now for the next lvl i need to make like 700 more points... and if i reach that lvl and make a withdrawall they will take (65- 35 - 20) <---- is the money of bonus -no thx
Pd sorry for my english
Edited by mrsakazaki (02 September 2009 @ 20:01 GMT)
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You did it through that level and want to quit? You can do better with that nice bankroll. The room is an aquarium: fishy fishy fishy. Be patient and play your best, and instead a small cashout you can get the full promotion.
mrsakazaki, the way the system is set up is that you are credited automatically as soon as you reach the required number of points. So if we didn't do it this way you could get the bonus and immediately withdraw it. We could have made you earn the points for the next level in advance but that would have slowed down your progress in climbing the levels.
An interesting point. Overall, would you all have preferred to have earned the next level PRIOR to getting it so you can withdraw at any time or do you prefer to have it in advance. It would be nice to know some feedback so we can tailor our next offer to your requirements so comments welcome!
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I'm glad I read this. I have been thinking about opening an account but the 700 vip points has been a turn off. Now, I know I don't want to get involved with them. Thanks for the warning.
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Posted by BigBetPoker: I'm glad you all like our fish!
mrsakazaki, the way the system is set up is that you are credited automatically as soon as you reach the required number of points. So if we didn't do it this way you could get the bonus and immediately withdraw it. We could have made you earn the points for the next level in advance but that would have slowed down your progress in climbing the levels.
An interesting point. Overall, would you all have preferred to have earned the next level PRIOR to getting it so you can withdraw at any time or do you prefer to have it in advance. It would be nice to know some feedback so we can tailor our next offer to your requirements so comments welcome!
Cheers!
+1
I haven't (yet) registered for this promo, but I understand what you're saying and it sounds like a much better offer than if you had to earn ahead of the bonus for that level being released. This way you can use the bonus to earn the points required to release it, letting people player higher stakes earlier.
I don't think people looking for early cashouts are really thinking about the spirit of these kinds of promotions, not to mention if BRM wishes for a room to continue to offer these bonus's then they're really counting on people sticking it out with the room for a while, maybe even depositing if they're doing nice on the room.
it's not about making a quick $50 and drawing it out, this does nothing to benefit BRM or the poker room.
I don't understand why people even want to cashout if they're winning and there's still more bonus to come.
I think these players aren't really embracing the spirit of a no deposit bonus at all :/
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Posted by jolub: I'm glad I read this. I have been thinking about opening an account but the 700 vip points has been a turn off. Now, I know I don't want to get involved with them. Thanks for the warning.
700 VIP points is only 70$ in rake, not actually not too hard to achieve if you play with good bankroll management. Its a load easier compared to other no deposit bonuses because bigbet gives you bonus $ to use prior to achieving it, making it easier for you to manage your bankroll
@ bigbetpoker: obviously prefer getting the bonus prior to earning it so it makes the a bonus easier to work with :s (imho)
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by BigBetPoker: I'm glad you all like our fish!
mrsakazaki, the way the system is set up is that you are credited automatically as soon as you reach the required number of points. So if we didn't do it this way you could get the bonus and immediately withdraw it. We could have made you earn the points for the next level in advance but that would have slowed down your progress in climbing the levels.
An interesting point. Overall, would you all have preferred to have earned the next level PRIOR to getting it so you can withdraw at any time or do you prefer to have it in advance. It would be nice to know some feedback so we can tailor our next offer to your requirements so comments welcome!
Cheers!
+1
I haven't (yet) registered for this promo, but I understand what you're saying and it sounds like a much better offer than if you had to earn ahead of the bonus for that level being released. This way you can use the bonus to earn the points required to release it, letting people player higher stakes earlier.
I don't think people looking for early cashouts are really thinking about the spirit of these kinds of promotions, not to mention if BRM wishes for a room to continue to offer these bonus's then they're really counting on people sticking it out with the room for a while, maybe even depositing if they're doing nice on the room.
it's not about making a quick $50 and drawing it out, this does nothing to benefit BRM or the poker room.
I don't understand why people even want to cashout if they're winning and there's still more bonus to come.
I think these players aren't really embracing the spirit of a no deposit bonus at all :/
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Posted by erhooPT: Why i just have 10$ in my big bet poker account? why not 50$? even the best poker palyer cant do nothing with 10$!! variance will kill us!!!
Because that's the way the offer is It's $10 upfront, not $50. If you can't play with $10 you're welcome to make a deposit so you have enough to play with and climb the bonus ladder even better.
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Posted by BigBetPoker: An interesting point. Overall, would you all have preferred to have earned the next level PRIOR to getting it so you can withdraw at any time or do you prefer to have it in advance. It would be nice to know some feedback so we can tailor our next offer to your requirements so comments welcome! Cheers!
No I think the way you have set it up is right, it avoids abuse and works out nice for those who take it serious and can see the benafits, they are the players you want. Those who complain they cant cashout the little pennies are only there to make a quick $ and then, well then? deposit at anouther site for a lesser deal?? or a bag of Haribos dunno. But I do think you guys with these restrictions could give more than the $10 to start id say $25 and makes it more attractive,or how about a "if you deposit you get an extra $15 instant to play with" or something along them lines. Think thats win win all round?
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Posted by jessthehuman
I don't understand why people even want to cashout if they're winning and there's still more bonus to come.
IMO
you don need to understand the reasons why ppl need a cashout...
i can understand about they take the bonus money but the winning freerolls too? .. now they will take the reward money too? BTW until yesterday i had 64k rewards points and i change it for $60 .. yesterday i had $88 now i have $160.. excellents reward points..
As I mentioned in another thread, any freeroll winning are yours to keep.
erhooPTn - You're kind of missing the point here, if we'd given away $50 then a) I'd have had to restrict the numbers of players allowed to enter this promo b) the restrictions would have to be a LOT more serious. I don't think any other offer gives you the cash up front without you raking far more than the bonus?
Posted by erhooPT: SNG players never have a good promotion because of this. That's why I started learn cash game just to take benefit of bonus... anyway... i SNG
So very true. Also, when playing cash games, it is easier to creep up blind levels if your bankroll is healthy enough, provided you play short-stack strategy.
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by BigBetPoker: I'm glad you all like our fish!
mrsakazaki, the way the system is set up is that you are credited automatically as soon as you reach the required number of points. So if we didn't do it this way you could get the bonus and immediately withdraw it. We could have made you earn the points for the next level in advance but that would have slowed down your progress in climbing the levels.
An interesting point. Overall, would you all have preferred to have earned the next level PRIOR to getting it so you can withdraw at any time or do you prefer to have it in advance. It would be nice to know some feedback so we can tailor our next offer to your requirements so comments welcome!
Cheers!
+1
I haven't (yet) registered for this promo, but I understand what you're saying and it sounds like a much better offer than if you had to earn ahead of the bonus for that level being released. This way you can use the bonus to earn the points required to release it, letting people player higher stakes earlier.
I don't think people looking for early cashouts are really thinking about the spirit of these kinds of promotions, not to mention if BRM wishes for a room to continue to offer these bonus's then they're really counting on people sticking it out with the room for a while, maybe even depositing if they're doing nice on the room.
it's not about making a quick $50 and drawing it out, this does nothing to benefit BRM or the poker room.
I don't understand why people even want to cashout if they're winning and there's still more bonus to come.
I think these players aren't really embracing the spirit of a no deposit bonus at all :/
IMO
I too agree with this. If it wasn't for this rule, they'd be going down a lot of thanks to people who just play for the bonus and cash out asap.
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I almost blew my $10 down to $3 because of SnG. and bad bankroll management. I think the cash games is a more efficient strategy to clim up the bonus ladder. We learn from our mistakes... that's the positive thing
I don't understand I'm playing at BBP and will I be able to cashout all money when I reach 700 points or not? playing 4NL holdem and when I can cash out all money? after 5000 points?
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so isnt easy get 700 points with S&g, no w the will take my money off?
SNG 
.. now they will take the reward money too? BTW until yesterday i had 64k rewards points and i change it for $60 .. yesterday i had $88 now i have $160.. excellents reward points.. 
thanks to people who just play for the 
