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Posted by doomdy: Damn first person with 4,000 posts gets a free WSOP Vegas ticket. I was pretty sure i gonna make it. But Flangels is busting really hard now Tony must giv him a ban imo
is this true? brm bein pretty generous lol might have to take a week off and post this bitch up lol
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Take a look at following things
Bonus : how many days left to clear End of promo / and when U have to finish things up. Boost it or go for the win by maintaining silver level then. They probably will give U a new promotion anyway in the near future, thats Partypoker and they are known for that.
Don't spend points buying a bonus to clear but spend em on instant cash added to ur account, reason : Ur getting bonuses anyway to opt in via Partypoker every month imo. If U can make 75PP a day that would be good imo and probably u get some more if U play longer sessions once and a while
Just don't place urself under pressure to go for the bonuses => I mean don't make hasty mistakes Keep focusing ur game, if U cant make it, then there will be other months and chances to come to get ur status level, if ur roll has grown potentially. ( bigger the roll, the eeasier to clear)
3-4 days before the updates on partypoker are getting processed regarding ur level, Post it here and then we analyse it what u shud do.
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Posted by arsenej1:
Posted by doomdy: Damn first person with 4,000 posts gets a free WSOP Vegas ticket. I was pretty sure i gonna make it. But Flangels is busting really hard now Tony must giv him a ban imo
is this true? brm bein pretty generous lol might have to take a week off and post this bitch up lol
Offcourse its true, i allready get a Macau ticket ($1250) being the first with 2,000 posts
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by arsenej1:
Posted by doomdy: Damn first person with 4,000 posts gets a free WSOP Vegas ticket. I was pretty sure i gonna make it. But Flangels is busting really hard now Tony must giv him a ban imo
is this true? brm bein pretty generous lol might have to take a week off and post this bitch up lol
Offcourse its true, i allready get a Macau ticket ($1250) being the first with 2,000 posts
Doomdy... don't give people false hopes
besides, Tony will not be able to afford it coz he has to pay me Ye throw in a poll
Omfg Liv come On marry me
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Posted by Lutenatik: It's very nice of u to take some time to try to help others. congrats
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Posted by Flangel:
Posted by doomdy:
Posted by arsenej1:
Posted by doomdy: Damn first person with 4,000 posts gets a free WSOP Vegas ticket. I was pretty sure i gonna make it. But Flangels is busting really hard now Tony must giv him a ban imo
is this true? brm bein pretty generous lol might have to take a week off and post this bitch up lol
Offcourse its true, i allready get a Macau ticket ($1250) being the first with 2,000 posts
Doomdy... don't give people false hopes
besides, Tony will not be able to afford it coz he has to pay me Ye throw in a poll
Omfg Liv come On marry me
Ok, ok i admit I didnt get the Macau ticket
I just got some naked pics from a girl....
Dont know if u know her...
Dont remember her name, sometin like Livy Boeriee or sometin......
Will do - nice one - good advice - i will keep u informed.....its true what u say tho, i mean the DoN's - u get 2pps for the $6 and for the $11 - cos of the $1 fee. Now i think this is a bummer - purely cos - if my roll was bigger i would play the $11's - much less bad play...however i play the $6's 3-4 at a time for the points - but the players are much more likely to gamble....
I think am gonna build my roll slightly and move up to the $11's. It seems fuct how u get the same points tho eh???
Thanx m8 i will read ur reply 2mo - good thread and good idea with it...
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Posted by mattel: Will do - nice one - good advice - i will keep u informed.....its true what u say tho, i mean the DoN's - u get 2pps for the $6 and for the $11 - cos of the $1 fee. Now i think this is a bummer - purely cos - if my roll was bigger i would play the $11's - much less bad play...however i play the $6's 3-4 at a time for the points - but the players are much more likely to gamble....
I think am gonna build my roll slightly and move up to the $11's. It seems fuct how u get the same points tho eh???
Thanx m8 i will read ur reply 2mo - good thread and good idea with it...
So tell me, how are the DoNs at party? I heard very fishy? Wots ur roi on them?
Posted by mattel: Will do - nice one - good advice - i will keep u informed.....its true what u say tho, i mean the DoN's - u get 2pps for the $6 and for the $11 - cos of the $1 fee. Now i think this is a bummer - purely cos - if my roll was bigger i would play the $11's - much less bad play...however i play the $6's 3-4 at a time for the points - but the players are much more likely to gamble....
I think am gonna build my roll slightly and move up to the $11's. It seems fuct how u get the same points tho eh???
Thanx m8 i will read ur reply 2mo - good thread and good idea with it...
So tell me, how are the DoNs at party? I heard very fishy? Wots ur roi on them?
I will have to check on sharkscope but its inconclusive cos i have only been really playing serious for about the last 2 and a half months ( been playin a couple of years but am now focusin on tryin to make a few quid ) . However i did check my last 3 days of play and it worked out played 44 won 28 lost 16 and that is the $6. It actually is quite poor when u take the $44 fee's off its a very poor return. its a profit but a small one. Like i said to Flangel - i would rather move up to the 11's but cant afford the swing - cos the play is poor in the 6's but the traffics good - play tight abc nothin too flashy and its easy enuff imo....
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Posted by mattel: I will have to check on sharkscope but its inconclusive cos i have only been really playing serious for about the last 2 and a half months ( been playin a couple of years but am now focusin on tryin to make a few quid ) . However i did check my last 3 days of play and it worked out played 44 won 28 lost 16 and that is the $6. It actually is quite poor when u take the $44 fee's off its a very poor return. its a profit but a small one. Like i said to Flangel - i would rather move up to the 11's but cant afford the swing - cos the play is poor in the 6's but the traffics good - play tight abc nothin too flashy and its easy enuff imo....
U pay $5 + $1 for a DoN? OMFG that disguting Party
i know and the irony is its the same fee for the 10$...............madness...............i just need a bigger roll......and the play is better...........my roi would rocket......
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6 Handed versus Full ring
Beginners advice , some small intro or some toughts from myself
I see alot of people chosing for Shorthanded play. Wich is nothing wrong with it in the first place but bare in mind there are some aspects U need to think about :
If your roll is not big enough or U are playing with a shortstack strategy / or not fully buy in, its NOT adviced to take 6 handed play. The blinds are coming way faster your way and Ur play changes drasticly vs Full ring.
Here are some things U might want to know :
6Handed : 6*2 = 12 cards out of the deck wich leaves U 40 cards 9Handed : 9*2 = 18 cards out of the deck wich leaves U 34 cards
This is a very mathematical matter : For example chasing a str8 or a flush on a 6 handed tables is more of a standard play then full ring. This is mainly coz u are having more outs.
On a full ring average table, u see more folds preflop then a 6 handed table. suited connectors for example are played different on a 6handed table then FR. Or let's say more often played 6 handed.
U cannot take over the same style of play on a FR then U do on a SH6 handed.
Full ring :
Tighten up your game and play more by the book. Fold more often preflop and lay down the on the turn if U cannot improve to make a str8 or flush fe. (This depends on the odds ur getting) If your roll is not big enough, U can apply here the Short stack strategy buy buying in the minimum and wait for good hands to play em aggressive. When U reach 2.5 BI, leave the table Leave the table if there are less then 7 players at the table.
Raise and reraise enough preflop to isolate players and try to play those HU. U don't want a family pot or 5 players with QQ and above.
Shorthanded : Play more suited connectors or gapped cards for a cheap price in position. It's adviced to buy in the complete amount , this is mainly ur getting alot more involved in pots and the blinds are also coming faster your way. U play alot more hands per hour 6Handed then full ring. When there players sitting out for a long time at your table, I advice U to leave as well.
Regarding Bonuses, rake and Playerpoints
Alot of players are also going to clear bonuses during their play. Mostly this is done by earning alot of playerpoints, or FPPS .
FULL RING GIVES U MORE FPPS THEN SHORTHANDED PLAY! Same applies when U have RAKBEACK Limit games as well, PLO for example gives U FPPS whilst your not even in the hand.
I Keep advicing new players or players with a small to stay away from 6HANDED but stick to 9 handed PLay
Flangel I posted in your other thread, but this is what I was looking for. These little points and hints that you just brought up will start some good tips and discussion threads. I only will sign up and play at a site if I get rakeback and good bonuses. I also like how you explained to people the difference between short handed vs full ring to people. I'll admit, when I first started playing it was sh because the game was faster and wanted to play more hands. Boy was that a dumb mistake (plus no rakeback too)....lol. Learned since and have been trying to improve on my game which is what everyone should do. Just this bit of info here will help people not make the same mistakes I made and paid/lost $ to learn.
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Posted by ih8usukouts: Flangel I posted in your other thread, but this is what I was looking for. These little points and hints that you just brought up will start some good tips and discussion threads. I only will sign up and play at a site if I get rakeback and good bonuses. I also like how you explained to people the difference between short handed vs full ring to people. I'll admit, when I first started playing it was sh because the game was faster and wanted to play more hands. Boy was that a dumb mistake (plus no rakeback too)....lol. Learned since and have been trying to improve on my game which is what everyone should do. Just this bit of info here will help people not make the same mistakes I made and paid/lost $ to learn.
No problem, lets hope people will appreciate it Today or tomorrow I am also going to write about payment processors , mbookers , neteller and how to move money. Due to fees, people shud know how when and where to ship any possible cashouts. Also going to make a decent comparison regarding those processors.
The problem I have now is : after a while this thread will be filled with FAQ and tips I made based on my own experience, but then I need to sort out a way with Admin how to get it right.
And like I said : any Questions can be asked here, if U dont want to open another thread urself. Also if U have problems with a room, 8/10 I have a personal contact on my list to help U with a matter
Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm finding out my mistakes the hard way because of having to pay money. These tips you are giving are helpful to me but I'm sure and hope it helps out others. That's a good idea because right now I am using Neteller and would like to know more about the others.
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Moneybookers - Neteller Revealed
Payment processing, Neteller and moneybookers compared + What to do
Many people are always debating or asking how to deposit money or withdraw money from a pokerroom. Most frequent options are moneybookers and neteller.
Some say PRO neteller,others Mbookers only. in that case, I am throwing in my own toughts and review and make U guys a clear review around it.
Here are the other two compared
Moneybookers :
1. Quik registration, only an email adress required and your info.
2. Uploading funds is easy A. Regular Bank transfer : No fees, 2-5 days B. Credit Card : 1.9% fee , amount instantly added in your account after verifying your credit card. C.In some countries u can do an instant bank transfer like homebanking, wich allows u to upload funds without any fee % instant
This method is supported by any room for sure.
3. Sending money to a friend or other mbookers user costs U money : Also a small fee will be added to the original amount, so make sure U have enough in your account to send to the other mbookers user.
Withdrawing funds :
A. The most common way is str8 to ur regular bank account. WIch takes 2-3 days max normally Be aware also a small fee is connected to this.
Paying funds to merchants : A. This costs U 0 so U dont need anything extra . if U want to deposit 50$ or € into a room, the room wont charge U more, so 50€ in your account balance at mbookers will do the trick.
Now think TWICE when u move money :
Lets go further : If u want to withdraw from an online pokerroom and U want to use the cash on another room or for other purposes ( god knows what) then the best way is get it back to your moneybookers and respend it. HOWEVER if u want to withdraw to ur bankaccount then I DONT advice to withdraw it via sideways.
Lets to some quik math :
U withdraw from Room A. Money comes in your mbookers account. UNtill this point, U havent payed any costs. Now here it comes : If U withdraw then again from moneybookers : U will pay the fee to wire the money from mbookers to your regular bank account. If U need to withdraw for both purposes , I advice U to split the withrawal and send a piece to mbookers and then a piece to your bank account.
This said : most rooms dont charge a fee to a wire transfer. or less then mbookers.
Verifying info :
U can increase your limits and secure your account by uploading documents, verifying your bank account and request a letter that they send U to your home adress to verify the owner and increase your limits. U will receive a PIN code that U can enter into moneybookers, this process only needs to be taken care once.
Neteller revealed :
1. Registration takes a while longer then mbookers 2. Still quik, and U need a valid email adress, and upon registration u receive a NETELLER ID, and a neteller secure ID. This contains nothing but digits. 8/10 Neteller will call U to verify your name, adress and date of birth.
Now there are two types of neteller accounts : Express and Extended account
These are the differences between them
Express account : Allows you to pay to merchants, and other neteller users. so basicly U can do the same what moneybookers does. Limits are higher from the start
Extended Account : The same benefits as mentioned above, but at this point to get the extended account, U need to verify your ID by uploading some documents. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS DUE TO FOLLOWING REASONS :
Lots of people cannot access a credit card like VISA or Mastercard. Neteller gives you the opportunity to get yourself a Mastercard connected to your account. Wich means : Its NOT a CREDIT CARD, so u are not able to place yourself into debt but its a handy way to cashout your money from a regular ATM / bancontact.
Same applies : This card can be used in any store accepting Mastercard Logo. They also provide a virtual NET+ card, wich works as the card mentioned above, only virtual.
Fees :
1. Neteller is abit more expensive then moneybookers. When u accept cash from a person , or another neteller user, this will cost U money. Same applies for withdrawing and deposting ( 2.x%)
Thats why its adviced to get the Neteller Prepaid Mastercard linked on your account, and when U withdraw from a room, do it as big as possible into your neteller. U can go to the ATM and withdraw 750€ MAX with your neteller card at once with a 4€ fee . this fee is FIXED so regardless of the sum u are withdrawing this fee applies for every amount. So its the best U max out the beneefit and withdraw as much as U can per time.
I use them both for several reasons : Withdrawing and depositing + different kind of security.
Neteller has a more complicated process for registereing, but after that fuzz, its alot more easier to withdraw from an atm, instead of wiring to a bank account etc etc.
Just DO NOT forget : Xferring money over processors like these cost money, so be very wise how much U wire / transfer and spend. Do the math for a whole year in % of fees and U would be surprised if u are a regular withdrawer
Any words, comments, shoot I wud also like to see if u rate the post good or bad . Just curious what people think of it.