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  14-Sep-09, 23:05   #1
Do you slowplay KK/AA? 0 
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In the last time it happens more and more that people slowplay KK/AA preflop, postflop and sometimes to the showdown. No raise, just check/call. Only on the river check/raise. Do you slowplay them too? And if you do, why?

  14-Sep-09, 23:16   #2

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Dpends of the table

If U get LAG spastics raising every pot, U can take the chance of limping in and extract max value out of it. or limp raise em but yet enuff to make em go into the pot.

Also : Limping KK/AA in deepstack tables is more common, or at least where I played.
Depends alot on stacksizes in general.

The board is a big factor

If the board is wet and very coloured or connected, I want to raise to take the pot anyway .
If they call and instincts say they made the flush / str8 then Ur forced to lay it down anyway.

Limping can also be very dangerous by letting small PPairs calling for set value (22-77)
So it's a decision U have to make by image and table

there is no real theory or ABC according to this

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  14-Sep-09, 23:42   #3

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I agree wi flangel - u gotta weigh ur opposition up - but its askin for trouble in many situations imo ......

  15-Sep-09, 00:18   #4

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some time I do,slow play but it really depends on who im playing against,if there donkeys,Ill go allin and take my chances,or if its a cash game,it all depends who is playin at the table

  15-Sep-09, 00:22   #5

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I have very bad experiences with slowplay Aces.
I allmost never do it, like Flangel said sometimes in early when table is retarded then its an option.

  15-Sep-09, 02:39   #6
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Huge hands pre-flop, but if you get unable to go all in pre-folp you will may have difficult decisions post flop. The standard move is to play them strong and to protect them from draws, a free card can lead you to lose a big pot.

That's poker, sometimes your big hands are not paid well. But if you play micro/low stakes you shouldn't worry about it, you will have a fish paying you big very often.

  15-Sep-09, 03:50   #7
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Well, for preflop anyway depends on the situation, if I'm chip leader, etc. I tend to slow play a monster hand like that pretty often, though if the hand seems to be a group that calls much too often, I might go in for a high bet right away.

Assuming I didn't bet beforehand, after the flop I try my best to make it look like I have middle pair.

edit: though I'm somewhat of a beginner, adopting my playing strategies may not be the wisest thing in the world to do.

  15-Sep-09, 04:07   #8

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I never slow play AA or KK. After trying it and getting burned to many times from letting the marginal hands into the pot, I stopped doing that. It depends on my position, if everyone in front folded to me, the players style and chip stacks, etc., etc., as to what I do. But most of the time I want those marginal hands out, if I get reraised then I amp up the pressure and make them pay if they want to go to the flop. Nothing hurts worse when you have KK or AA and someone plays a small pocket pair and hits a set because you didn't make them pay. What happens is you see a flop with smaller cards thinking you are ahead and actually you are way behind and don't know it. Aww crap!

  15-Sep-09, 05:07   #9
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just raise like how much u normally raise in the table as in 3.5 or 4bb and thats consider as trapping =D

  15-Sep-09, 06:10   #10

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Usually not. One pair is not good enough to slowplay. And those hands rarely improve, making them difficult to play on later streets.

  15-Sep-09, 07:29   #11

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i would say very seldom but i will not go all in as first also . i try to raise 1/3 of my stack and if i have a reraise than i will go all in .

  15-Sep-09, 07:30   #12

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No, I never slowplay them now cause in the past I was doing it a lot and the Aces were cracked a lot. Nowadays, they are still cracked but very rarely now because I'm not slowplaying them so guys with suited connection can't call and...

  15-Sep-09, 07:41   #13

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I think if you slowplay AA/KK you have to be prepared to fold them according to board and oppo behaviour;
but I can't fold them so 99% I don't slowplay, often I got trapped by my trap Big Smile.

I thought: he is betting cause he thinks I have nothing (cause I limped) but I have the best starting hand so I reraiSe and...........BUMP Aww crap! Aww crap!

  15-Sep-09, 08:30   #14

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It depends on the situation i always like to be in control of the hand when i have AA/KK, but you have to remember that they can get drawn out on, Just remember it is only a Pair

I have a bad habit of check raise with AA/KK but again dependant on the board

  15-Sep-09, 09:21   #15

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I only play MTT's and as per my experience you will find a call to a preflop All-In almost always.

  15-Sep-09, 09:24   #16

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KK i mostly big raise it, AA it´s up to the feeling at the time!!

  15-Sep-09, 09:38   #17
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I never slowplay that hand, because I try play only on loose tables where I usually get called if I bet or raise...

  15-Sep-09, 09:44   #18
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Open raise 3bb ,if more bets before 3 bet to go HU.

  15-Sep-09, 11:04   #19

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I never slowplay AA/KK-always allin preflop Big Smile

  15-Sep-09, 11:27   #20
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I sometimes only call when i'm deep in and mtt and utg in hope of someone trying to steal the pot from me and then coming over the top . Works most of the times but doenst work if you do it like 5 times in 10 mins if you understand.
Early ind a tour i never ever slowplay my cards because there just to many donks out there who will call with anything and hit on river and then your fuckt. I learnt this the hardway Blink

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