Joined: Mar '08
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 44 (M)
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Yes SSS works but very predictable dont be shocked when someone coinflips you. And you gotta be a real pro at folding, Yawn...do I have enough to play poker yet.....Yawn.....
Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 53 (M)
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you have also to strictly respect other rules of this strategy: minimum number of opponents, amounts of blinds to join and to leave a table, avoiding other SSS player .....
i find it a bit boring, you play like a machine almost not considering everything but your cards
I am sure some people make money playing the SSS, but then again there are no doubt losers too.
If the SSS was that consistent then quite simply everyone would play it, we'd all know each others hands and the game would be so boring everyone would give up.
Personally I find the SSS narrow minded and very very hard to stick to. You try folding QQ pre flop to a 40 cent raise when you know that the opponent raises everyhand anyway. Even worse when you do fold because SSS says you must, then you watch as a Q hits the river and your cards are there in the muck worthless. Whilst he waltzes off with the pot with his pair of 7s.
SSS would be great in theory, but in practise once someone knows you are playing it then they will simply just keep betting and raising and unless you have AA or KK they know you are going to lay it down..
So for me, no SSS doesnt work. if get someone who is clearly playing the SSS as taught by another site, then I just raise his blinds every time and watch him fold.
You take his blinds from him hand after hand, and on the rare occasion he does have AA or KK then you can lay it down because you know thats the only cards SSS say you can re-raise with so they must have one or the other.
Even if you raise and they do raise with AA, the number of times you can steal their blinds far exceeds what they win back from you when they do hit a monster,
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 469
Yes! that strategy works! But it to play short stack strategy you have to do all the things in the strategy! But sometimes the player start to play hands that he shouldnt! short stack strategy and a good bankroll management are the keys to have a big bankroll!!
This strategy is based on the principle that it is possible to follow a strategy based on probability and poker theory, that cannot be beaten when used under the right circumstances. No matter how good your opponents are, they won't be able to stop you.
Joined: Dec '07
Location: Australia
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 186
Posted by pokersztar: ...No matter how good your opponents are, they won't be able to stop you.
Allow me to disagree... SSS players are tight players, and are quite easy to spot at the table. I mean, if you're truly playing SSS - you'll be playing "by the book" - ie. no tricky plays, no value bets, no bluffs, etc and good players will notice that... There are numerous ways to play against SSS's - it was mentioned before that you'll face quite a few conflips, or hands as strong (if not stronger) as yours... So, you won't be "stopped" per say, but you'll be countered quite strongly - meaning your winnings will be minimised.
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 188
Well the short stack strategy I have played, mainly with some of the smaller bankrolls has worked out great. A miss that a lot of people make is choosing the wrong table, if you play a full ring table with a lot of large stacks, which is the ultimate for SSS you have decent odds to make some money. Since, yes you can counter SSS but the problem is that you counter it differently from any large stack, which basicly is the point of it, countering your strategy means leaving oneself open to other opponents.
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
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Yeah. The real problem of short stack strategy is that in the small limits tables, a lot of players play short stack strategy and the strategy is not profitable against other players playing the same strategy. So what you have to do is choose the best tables with players with larger stacks and more lose!
Joined: Apr '08
Location: Argentina
Age: 45 (M)
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I've used when I began playing 1) It is really boring, feels very much like a grind. Fold, fold, fold...you can't call with implied odds hands like suited connectors 2) going strictly by the SHC does not work very well either, you have to know your game, pay attention to player tendencies. I didn't do this at first, and lost quite a bit, but then I started shoving on light openers and such. 3) most of the times against good players you can bluff the flop with a cbet if you don't hit. Good players know shortstackers rely on pure hand strength so it's nice to mix up with a few flop bluffs.
That said, I did use SSS for quite some time until I grew my bankroll a bit to play full stack. I'd rather not play SSS again
Joined: May '08
Location: Belgium
Age: 39 (M)
Posts: 467
It works, using sss on everest i went from 10$ to 300$. It takes a lot of patience and can be pretty boring, but building a good roll that way is good for your confidence and i think it had a good influence on my poker "skills".