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Has enybody felt like me that the ods or the server where you play (Pokerstars in my case) just doesn't care about your hand and all what he wants is to kick you out from a Sit & Go tournament? I have been playing for a time and the last 20 to 40 games i haven't one a single cent in a Sit & Go and it doesn't really matter what kind of hand i am having , as all what is needed is someone to call me , If i have Aces someone calls and he hits a straight or set or something better , if I have AK someone beets me with a low pare , If i have a low pare someone beats me with AK ?
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If you never got ITM in last 40 games you should ask yourself serious question about how you play. The sit has nothing to do and they dont care about who is winning or loosing the only think that is in the interest for tyhem is the rake.
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I play my game wait for good hand , try to play out till the flop if possible , but always getting kicked out no matter how would i play my hand and i wont talk about the God of odds that i am having at my side before the flop , but in the end it all comes to one thing , dead end !
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Hi, I think you have a bad streak because as pinotte says the site does not have anything wrong with the sit and go, we all have bad streak,my advice is take a couple of days without playing sit and go it is very difficult to start a game thinking you're going to lose.
thanks for letting me be part of this community and please excuse my English and my writing errors
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Ill tell you what a friend of mine usually tells me whenever i make the same complaint :
Yeah it's because you're too good... someone over at pokerstars noticed that and and they organized a meeting on which they agreed they cannot let you win anymore no matter what.. that's what it means to them when you win.. they don't like your face lol..
Seriously now, Stop playing real cash for a couple of days or lower your buy-ins until you notice any change.. Bad streak is my opinion also like greatgame3 said.
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greatgame3, Thanks for the advice i am probably not going to play Sit&Go for a time now as i really don't understand why i am getting such a bad game , while in real money tournaments i can win get into the money and atleast get to the midle of the tournament ...
lukasb, i really liked that what does your friend say about this , that made me laught a little and thanks as well
How can you possibly win seriously , this made me mad ? After about 53 Sit&Go tournaments so close but in the end so far away from the atleast minimum , it's unbeliable ...
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Well i gonna try out thoses one tabled Sit&Go and i am not really afraid of bankroll of course i am not dumb and i keep it low , but if i loose all of my 20 Euro i am not so mad at all , just willing to atleast have a standart gameplay ... I am willing to win a tournament as for a long time i haven't one any tournament at all ...
But the most thing that i am mad at is that i am playing a lot , like 4 - 7 hours per day , playing low stakes tournaments and Sit&Go and all what i get in the end is midle or at the money
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Posted by ddblt1970: Lol, for 180man turbo sng a streak of 53 tournaments not ITM is super normal.
Not super normal, especially since they switched to 27 places paid, but certainly CAN happen. it's a really bad run though.
Also, you shouldn't tell a MTSNG player to just switch to STTs, that'd be just plain bad. It's a whole different game, there are more aspects that are different than aspects that are the same.
If you want less swingy gameplay I'd advise you to switch to non turbos, seeing you have enough time in your hands. Play the $1 45 man non turbos and you should be fine, especially seeing you seem to be able to afford to lose your bankroll. If you are able to grind it up or to deposit some more, play the $1.50 90 player KOs, with enough time they can be really profitable moneywise, with good dedication it's possible to grind in several hundreds of $s per month playing these games (with the right volume and skill at least).
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Yeah but how i can play only MTT tournaments if they kick me out every time when i am deeper into the tournament ... Just today i had a tournament , just got into the money , small blind me AK suited , next big blind AA flop he gets a flush and i don't get anything , it's just lame when i can't fold as i had only 3 big blinds at a stack 30,000 with blinds 10000/5000 k ... I hopped that maybe in sng i will be able to make some deeper cash in , but no just played 3 of thoses one tabled ones , and they just keep me kicking out , waited long for a hand just got K10 suited lost to 78 suited the same as me , it's just unbeliveable how bad the game can be in thoses SNG ...
Maybe i gonna try out tomorrow your advise , as i am just frustated already about that how badly can the game turn to me , when i know i am not a bad player at all and i am able to make decisions and good folds ...
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Posted by Samarietis: Yeah but how i can play only MTT tournaments if they kick me out every time when i am deeper into the tournament ... Just today i had a tournament , just got into the money , small blind me AK suited , next big blind AA flop he gets a flush and i don't get anything , it's just lame when i can't fold as i had only 3 big blinds at a stack 30,000 with blinds 10000/5000 k ... I hopped that maybe in sng i will be able to make some deeper cash in , but no just played 3 of thoses one tabled ones , and they just keep me kicking out , waited long for a hand just got K10 suited lost to 78 suited the same as me , it's just unbeliveable how bad the game can be in thoses SNG ...
Maybe i gonna try out tomorrow your advise , as i am just frustated already about that how badly can the game turn to me , when i know i am not a bad player at all and i am able to make decisions and good folds ...
2nd hand, raise flop and raise turn bigger. As played by you I'd hardly fold T8 too if I was him.
You should really work on your mindset. It's not single tourneys or single hands that define unluck in poker. Crying about bad luck is okay, everyone does it, even online-grinding pro's do. However, you have to try to get step by step to more professional additude. I also used to cry about every tourney I busted in unluckily. But you should slowly get to the mindset where you cry about bad days only. And afterwards you should get to the mindset where you cry about bad weeks only, where you just accept bad days. And so on. It's very important and always underrated
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Posted by Samarietis: the server where you play (Pokerstars in my case) just doesn't care about your hand
This bit is right at least.
Either
A) You're a liar and you haven't really played ~40 SNGs without cashing. B) You have been incredibly, and I mean absolutely incredibly, unlucky - this is highly doubtful. C) You are truly fucking awful at poker (and have had an unlucky run combined with your general awfulness) - if you're not lying, this is almost definitely the right case.
Change your attitude; currently you've witnessed yourself los 40 games in a row and instead of questioning your ability, like a sane/rational person would do. You've decided that you're a good player and that something else must be the problem. In this instance you have invented some insane b******t conspiracy, to explain why you keep losing. Do you understand how crazy this actually is? Rather than admit you're not as good as you think, you've decided that Poker Stars (with millions of customers) is out to get you. You know that is fucking crazy right?
So, adjust your attitude. Instead of coming on here and doing something completely useless like write about your crazy b******t conspiracy. Why don't you post some hand histories, where you;ve had some difficulties and maybe some of the other forum members, who don't suck at poker as much as you, can help you out a bit and maybe show you where you're going wrong.
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Posted by BeMyATMplz:
Posted by Samarietis: Yeah but how i can play only MTT tournaments if they kick me out every time when i am deeper into the tournament ... Just today i had a tournament , just got into the money , small blind me AK suited , next big blind AA flop he gets a flush and i don't get anything , it's just lame when i can't fold as i had only 3 big blinds at a stack 30,000 with blinds 10000/5000 k ... I hopped that maybe in sng i will be able to make some deeper cash in , but no just played 3 of thoses one tabled ones , and they just keep me kicking out , waited long for a hand just got K10 suited lost to 78 suited the same as me , it's just unbeliveable how bad the game can be in thoses SNG ...
Maybe i gonna try out tomorrow your advise , as i am just frustated already about that how badly can the game turn to me , when i know i am not a bad player at all and i am able to make decisions and good folds ...
2nd hand, raise flop and raise turn bigger. As played by you I'd hardly fold T8 too if I was him.
You should really work on your mindset. It's not single tourneys or single hands that define unluck in poker. Crying about bad luck is okay, everyone does it, even online-grinding pro's do. However, you have to try to get step by step to more professional additude. I also used to cry about every tourney I busted in unluckily. But you should slowly get to the mindset where you cry about bad days only. And afterwards you should get to the mindset where you cry about bad weeks only, where you just accept bad days. And so on. It's very important and always underrated
Just to add to this, in the 2nd hand - why did you bet the river? You had show-down value. You turned your hand into a bluff. There is no point betting here, you have decent show-down value, so just check it back. When you bet - basically you fold a lot of hands that you beat and rarely getting called by hands that you beat. Essentially - your just saying "I'm not sure if you have me beat or not, but just in case you do, here's some extra money for you".
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you have a huge leak in the A-10 to A-K range I guess when I see these plays... If u want I can reveiw some hands with you and give you some coaching maybe ?
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jessthehuman , before saying that i am a bad player , maybe you should look at my statistic that i am a liar ? I hate people who do think that everyone that cry's about the game is a bad player , i have had bad days and good days , but this is completly something unusal , as thoses bad beats bad hands and no hands at all at Sit&Go tournaments are taking too long ... As well i had another account witch had been hacked and i am unable to play with anymore , if you look at that account statistic , there was way too better results then in this account , and how can i be a bad player if with two different accounts the results are being so different ?
As well i haven't sad that i am a good player , I sad that i am not the worst player and i can be a midle player from time to time when I am in good mood and make good folds ...
WTGPxH3R0 , i don't know about coaching , but reviewing hands sounds good , just need to contact with you about the day when it's possible ...
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Posted by WTGPxH3R0: you have a huge leak in the A-10 to A-K range I guess when I see these plays...
Not necessarily the most important leaks to fix, there might be many more as well.
I've just seen what games are played talking this thread - in 180 hypers (which seem to be played pretty widely) there should be no discussion about variance. Either you can deal with it easily or don't play hypers at all, it's simple as that. What you expirience is totally normal, and it can go a lot worse playing these games. Definitely not to recommend with a bankroll below $200.
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Well i am not playing thoses Sit&Go generally , it's just fue tournaments i play in a day , to see how it goes ... Mostly i play 0.50 cent - 90;180;360 and in every tournament of thoses i get the same , loosing with a better starting hand , at start , eather in midle or at the end of the tournament ...
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Posted by Samarietis: jessthehuman , before saying that i am a bad player , maybe you should look at my statistic that i am a liar ? I hate people who do think that everyone that cry's about the game is a bad player , i have had bad days and good days , but this is completly something unusal , as thoses bad beats bad hands and no hands at all at Sit&Go tournaments are taking too long ... As well i had another account witch had been hacked and i am unable to play with anymore , if you look at that account statistic , there was way too better results then in this account , and how can i be a bad player if with two different accounts the results are being so different ?
As well i haven't sad that i am a good player , I sad that i am not the worst player and i can be a midle player from time to time when I am in good mood and make good folds ...
WTGPxH3R0 , i don't know about coaching , but reviewing hands sounds good , just need to contact with you about the day when it's possible ...
What are your statistics?
And while you're right, occasionally a good player thinks that it is rigged, from my experience it is an overwhelming majority of losing players that think the game is rigged.
------------ I looked up your nickname on Stars, you're a losing player with an ROI of -20%.
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jessthehuman , well as well you should look at that i played seriosuly last time at the start of the year ended up by loosing my starting bankroll at MTT , when i was more getting hands and better chances at Sit&Go , but now i started playing again last month , and now i am getting better chances to win at MTT not Sit&Go ...
As well you could look at my previous account - Samarietis , i can't get to play with him anymore , because someone stole it from me , as well as my old email and facebook account ... There is pretty good statistic and i am the same person who played that account ...
And in the end if you are interested you can look at the statistic of LaurisB1993 at another poker site iPoker , i started there with only 7 Euro and ended up with 28 Euro profit , but then there was changes in the reglament of iPoker and they didn't let me play anymore ...
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Posted by Samarietis: in every tournament of thoses i get the same , loosing with a better starting hand , at start , eather in midle or at the end of the tournament ...
This happens to everyone, 90% of the time I bust in a tournament I have AA or KK. You notice this more because these are the hands you go all in with.
It's like saying I've never busted when I've been dealt 28o, that's because you fold it every time, you would never go all in with that.
