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Just a quick post to see if anybody else would like to see a poker psychology Sub-Forum in the BRM forums. I personally think it's a huge factor in everybodies game and im sure people have a few different issues and or solutions?!
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Sounds good, would make it easier to find pertinent threads. Definitely a huge factor in the progression from ABC poker to playing the player, and several forum posters are definitely there.
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Everything from not tilting to having a winning mentality, maintaining it etc. Maybe discussions about how general life psychology affects your play and the immediate effects of change in circumstances etc? I dunno, i was just throwing it out there
Posted by shoveandtilt: Everything from not tilting to having a winning mentality, maintaining it etc. Maybe discussions about how general life psychology affects your play and the immediate effects of change in circumstances etc? I dunno, i was just throwing it out there
sorry but after reading first year psychology at uni I dont think a separate forum is necessary we get all the bad beat storys all the time and the good luck, we get the rants ant the boasts and all the emotions in between, advice is there if asked for in the poker forum and you can ask anything at all in off topic , if we have a sub-forum for psychology why not philosophy as well we could go on and on, however if you feel you need some counselling feel free to ask, if the badbeats get to much feel free to rant , ask Pojot if you can borrow his cat to swing round your head when angry , that works for me, and always hold the thought that every cloud has a silver lineing as you leave on the bubble,live long and prosper , may the force be with you , dam was that a freuidian slip? byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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midnight1954 you're soooo wrong. Most of players the biggest problem is the MINDSET not the game. In other forums I participe there are really good Mindset section and really helpfull also. I also didn't know how many problems people havek or even I had sometimes before i decided to give a Mindset forum a try. But I don't know how that could work out here. Iit's not only about tilt and badbeats for sure
Posted by ZmxPowah: midnight1954 you're soooo wrong. Most of players the biggest problem is the MINDSET not the game. In other forums I participe there are really good Mindset section and really helpfull also. I also didn't know how many problems people havek or even I had sometimes before i decided to give a Mindset forum a try. But I don't know how that could work out here. Iit's not only about tilt and badbeats for sure
explain why I am so wrong? is the forum lacking ? does it need a sub-forum? are you correct? is the world round? put it to admin see waht they say, I dont need it if others do fine, kaysara sara
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Hmmm, not a bad idea but I dont think it will work well in here, unless people are willing to write good articals, I mean lots of people here are basic players, chuck some advance stratergy at them and there is uprar LOL, so when trying to explain what the diffrence between a good player and a winning player it would go on to deaf ears, things such as commen tells and betting patterns etc dont fair well with some as its not ABC there for bad poker, its very hard to get people to understand the psychology of poker and without a fair few same mided people in here the sub-forum would not see much action. Too many people here will get mixed up in poker strategy and psychology and not understand the diffrence, so nice idea, but I dont tink it would work.
yes there is a difference between strategy and psychology but with online poker how is the psychology going to be studied to comprehend or develop an understanding of someones psychological state ( or mindset) a face to face conference or study would be needed , rather than stab at the dark guesses made by his online strategy,yes? so unless we are going to talk in this sub-forum about live games how would it be of use, if as you say the average player cares? its a pet hate of mine these coffee table psychological debates ,presumed but uninformed character building, lol
Edited by midnight1954 (14 January 2011 @ 11:12 GMT)
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Well im sure you would get a better understanig face-to-face, but just look in this forum, have you ever met anyone here? NO!, but you do recongnise diffrent personalitys, there for recongnise diffrent mind sets without stabbing in the dark, there is much that can be applied online. I think you should go make a cupper and we can have a chat about it...
just guesses bigfoot, now just because I opened my mouth dont you be putting your foot in it!lol,, yes well your to late cuppas in hand what have you got in yours? hmmm,,let me guess,, no cant be! you dirty boy
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all playing in his way and all heve own psyhology so sometimes it can help for only few peoples but we all must learn own psyhology and after that only read and use over people psyhology test
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I said midnight you're so wrong and I can easy repeat. Because of your post after which I made mine. Let's see.
Posted by midnight1954 get all the bad beat storys all the time and the good luck, we get the rants ant the boasts and all the emotions in between, | if the badbeats get to much feel free to rant , ask Pojot if you can borrow his cat to swing round your head when angry ,
You were talking like psychology in poker is about angry people who are getting bad beats only. So you were saying we don't need subforum because people can whine about bad beats in other sections. Which is wrong way of thinking because like I said bad beats/tilt is just a part of the "Mindset" problem. Also I wasn't saying I think that creating the subforum is good idea which I also mentioned in my post.
And one thing
Posted by midnight1954: if we have a sub-forum for psychology why not philosophy as well
Srsly?
Edit: Ahh right i nearly forgot.
Posted by mazas: all playing in his way and all heve own psyhology so sometimes it can help for only few peoples but we all must learn own psyhology and after that only read and use over people psyhology test
That's not true. Most people have nearly same problems in Mindset.
if you are going to cut and paste parts of a reply do so, however all you are doing is taking the parts you feel able to use , I think I made my point clear with the posts I posted, I also feel that you are using the word \ psychology out of context , however I do see your point that psychological methods may be imployed to your advantage or to help those lacking in certain traits neccessary to function in the disciplined way needed within the realms of poker , however clinical psychology and crying on someones shoulder are hard to separate at times, poker strategy is more within the area you should be discussing perhaps,
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I my opinion the only way psycology interfers with poker is when we have bad beats and the way we react to them. People with stronger mentality usually get the bad beats as a normal part of the game and the need to get them in a way to dont comit the same mistakes and try to have a better game. Weak people tends to get on tilt and blame always the site starting with the rigged stuff in a way to hide theyr weakness.
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Well thanks for the quite rude reply midnight. Thanks for the patronising post. Completely out of line in my opinion. I've done one further and read Psychology for 2 years, and NO, this is not about bad beats or sick brags. It was about trying to help people develop BETTER mindsets to help improve there game. So take your patronising self and you lovely cup of tea and go and post in the off topic forum. But you are right, it wont work.......you know why, people like you. How dare you suggest "if you need counselling blah" Who the hell are you?? You have no idea about me, my life, experiences or anything. By the sounds of it you need help integrating into society as you are horrendously rude and think its all just oneeee big joke. when all i was trying to do was potentially help. Shame.
Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
*Edit, added my equally patronising farewell.
Edited by shoveandtilt (14 January 2011 @ 21:14 GMT)
lol,,, dear oh dear , so easily offended by a coherent reply, hmmm,, you want me to pick your dummy up,, dont know where your outburst came from but funny all the same,lol, how dare me reply to a person of your obviously professional standing in the world of psycology,, 2 years my my,,
edit!! perhaps if read all parts of posts rather than the bits you wanted to
Edited by midnight1954 (14 January 2011 @ 21:40 GMT)
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56 years of being incredibly patronising and you're still rather dire at it. My outburst came in reponse to your rude, derogatory, supremely patronising first post. Do you call that a coherent reply??? You can't be seriously palming that off as coherent. "however if you feel you need some counselling feel free to ask, if the badbeats get to much feel free to rant , ask Pojot if you can borrow his cat to swing round your head when angry......"
This topic was made for people to discuss psychology, a topic which many poker players do not, or have not ever considered affects their game. Not for you to come in and make a mockery of it. If you dont like it, dont read. Which is precisely what i do with most of your posts. You really think i care about you forgetting to pierce a bag? Joggus, onus.
------------ Precisely cjv, that's exactly the kind of line i was looking at. A tonne of people i know at the bubble tighten up in game, and also in real life. Sitting there really tense, not correctly thinking situations through, folding quite often by far the best hands because they want to cash....and they usually end up min-cashing if at all. I, for one, as of this moment am voting for a Sub.
its a pet hate of mine these coffee table psychological debates ,presumed but uninformed character building, lol
