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Some ideas for your new category suggestion shoveandtilit, so those reading this thread may understand more what you mean by poker psychology..
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LOL...@shoveandtilt, midnight will tilt you faster than a hrs session of coolers and suckouts, dont thake it to heart, its an opinion and as far as I can see not aimed at anyone. I think you are over looking her mindset I think the best way for now, if you feel like writing some advice is to dump it in the strategy section. I cant see me writting much as I dont think the responses will be good, but will say psychology has a huge effect on your bankroll. @cjvfruity im not going deep here, but for bubble play, there are 2 main "mindsets" thoses who are there to win the tourn and those who want to just survive, knowing the "mindset" of thoses around you should make a diffrence in your strategy...this can go deep, but im not going there.
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I had just got back from a 16hr grind of a day, yes, real life work and yeah i guess i have over-reacted slightly/mildly but this was an idea i have had for a while now and for it to just be dismissed, and for me to be spoken to like i was a 5yo in the process was just not fair. Condecession grates me hard. Just to clarify though, i haven't taken it to heart, big enough and ugly enough to deal with that mate
I really think it could be worth a pop, even if its just lending a helping hand to other less experienced players etc? I mean if i had the opportunity to help people out and teach them things whilst also learning the whole time i would snap it up. Even if some people dont quite fully understand the concepts straight away surely it'd help them to at least have the knowledge there infront of them to learn?!
yeah foot no personal attack ment, still think theres no need for separate forum though, but who am I to say? All this mindset stuff is out there on the web or in books if you need or want it , plenty of good poker manuals , lots of coffee table psycholgy , but if shove feels able and qaulified to coach and teach the methodology of the game fine, but cant see much uptake, on a very egoistic level not sure if I want to improve the players to much anyway in the 20 years I have been playing the improvement has been imense and making any money harder , let them learn the hard way , like I had to,lol,lol,lol
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Posted by kinogomes: I my opinion the only way psycology interfers with poker is when we have bad beats and the way we react to them. People with stronger mentality usually get the bad beats as a normal part of the game and the need to get them in a way to dont comit the same mistakes and try to have a better game. Weak people tends to get on tilt and blame always the site starting with the rigged stuff in a way to hide theyr weakness.
excuse me, what weakness? Sometimes i get so mad i blame the site too. But am i weak becuz of that? If you think that people blaming the site for bad beats are weak. Then you underestimate alot of players. A bad beat is for weak players imo, saying the badbeat was on the house is not weak. If you badbeat me, i would gladly take that same hand 10 times with you and see who make the profit, even tho i called the house rigged i think the odds are still the same The weak players are the one always bad beating people. I know lots of people who doesnt like online poker becuz of the badbeats that they see far from as much in real poker. They are not weak players, but they still blame the room when they get the 5th bad beat in 6 games Another thing is, nowadays people call everything a bad beat, they forget about the draws and stacksize etc, why do the opponent do this and that. Many times its not a bad beat but people say it is
sure , badbeats happen , I had at least 4 last night, it is how you deal with them that shows the good from the bad, compose, rethink, ajust, if you went in with the best hand thats fine, its all part of the game , with exspierience it gets easier to handle as do most things within the poker realm or in life .we can all count outs , pot odds and the rest, well most of us, the game involves much more than mathimatics however and only time and exsperience resolves the problem of dealing with it, kaysara sara
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I've thought about this quite a lot and my opinion has been flittering back and fo but I do not believe this forum needs a psychology sub forum. If we had a forum for it, I honestly believe it would be crowded with bad beat, moaning and 'why am i losing' threads. I would be open to seeing threads discussing various topics that you've raised but I don't think they would get the reaction you want and I don't think they would make up several long lasting threads.
Why don't you just post the first psychology thread in the poker forum or strategy forum and then we can start discussing the topic instead of discussing how we talk about it. And if many relevant threads pop up, then maybe admin could move them to a sub-forum retrospectively.
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Oh and midnight1954, sorry to be picky but this has really been bothering me everytime you say it. It's not kaysara sara. It's "Que sera, sera!" literally what will be, will be. Although I've only heard english people say it and I'm not even sure which language it comes from, it could be French or Spanish depending on how you pronounce it.
take a breaknhave a kit cat, spellit as it sounds in scottish, am definately not eeeengesssh,lol # twitter.com/kaysara_sara · Cached page # What is this song... something like kay sara, sara...? - Yahoo ...
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Posted by midnight1954: take a breaknhave a kit cat, spellit as it sounds in scottish, am definately not eeeengesssh,lol # twitter.com/kaysara_sara � Cached page # What is this song... something like kay sara, sara...? - Yahoo ...
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Didn't mean to imply that you were english. I meant all english speakers including americans, australians and us non-english brits. I am aware of the song and I know that's how it sounds but I still wonder where the phrase comes from as it's not correct spanish. Just thought you might like to know how to spell it since you say it so much.
Posted by awood88: but I still wonder where the phrase comes from as it's not correct spanish.
I can assure you that "Qué será, será" is a perfect construction in Spanish. It's an expression used to say "I don't know what it will happen". People also use this expression when, for instance, open a kinder egg and they don't know what there is inside. They say ... "Qué será, será ...."
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Posted by DaMessiah666:
Posted by awood88: but I still wonder where the phrase comes from as it's not correct spanish.
I can assure you that "Qu� ser�, ser�" is a perfect construction in Spanish. It's an expression used to say "I don't know what it will happen". People also use this expression when, for instance, open a kinder egg and they don't know what there is inside. They say ... "Qu� ser�, ser� ...."
Oh. Then i have been misinformed. I was told that the sentence was not grammatically correct. To english speakers it means whatever happens shall happen and its used to tell people not to worry about the future.
Posted by awood88: Oh. Then i have been misinformed. I was told that the sentence was not grammatically correct.
No problem
Posted by awood88: To english speakers it means whatever happens shall happen and its used to tell people not to worry about the future.
In Spanish there are slightly similar sentences that means what you said. "Lo que será, será!" That means, you cannot do anything because future is already written, more or less
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Another thing I find hard to get my brain around, is to fold after I have bet the flop, turn with something like 2 pair, putting the other player on a flush draw, when the card hits on the river to complete any flush I almost always call!..
Today in a Double up SnG this happened early on, I bet my chips down from 1500 to about 700 and actually folded 2 pair! the guy showed me the flush, so I didnt even have to worry if I made the right choice or not..
I went on to finish 2nd out of the 10! when I would usually just call and be eliminated
Quite a big step for me and my stupid poker brain!
yes well done, with so many flushhunters out there its difficult when the river shows the danger card and hard to fold 2 pair but on this occasioin you made the correct decision , the person showing his hand was a bonus. Always makes me chuckle when people show there hands be it a bluff or a wining one , I wouldnt say you have a stupid brain , you seem to feel you are improving so that usually means you are, play your game , watch the other players try and find any patterns in there play , take notes if you run into them often on the same site, 1 thing I do if I do get a bad beat or get caught by a flushhunter is count how many outs that player had to win the pot compared to my own, simple but it can tell a lot about your opponents range and willingness to gamble.
The weak players are the one always bad beating people. I know lots of people who doesnt like online 
