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Good morning all its 7.40 here and I been doing some serious assessments of my play and luck I don't really know if its bad luck or bad play but either way I have to improve both or I will be finished by end of week.
I sure hope this week is better for me than last I just could not seem to do anything right my bmr dropped by 20 percent so if I don't pick up I will have to stop altogether.
Or drop to micro tables and if i am honest playing 1p 2 p blinds does my head in, So wish me luck over the next day or so I need it big time.
I am also curious how many of you guys win consistand and who just plays for a laugh and are there any big consistant winners amoungst you guys.
But good luck to you guys even if i can't get it right
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It looks like you are playing just to much. Reduce the amount you sit at the tables and look in to your hands if you have a tracker program to work on your play.
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I think a tracker is a must for me can you recomend one and then all i have to do is learn how to use it which for me should be easy Thanks in advance and yes you could be right as I noticed my play tends to change I play same hand different depending on whats go on before which is probably right in some cases but it should be on sound foundations and not emotional play. ToX
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Perfect I will download it now and see it this can help me I have 300 pound left in my bank roll plus my points i can cash in if i want so thanks for the advice and info. My dream will die if I can't turn it round lol
we have all been here m8, me more than most at least at the moment your not broke so thats a good thing, ive been playing online poker for ten years now, ive had a lot of ups and downs, and the times i was down and was going through a bad patch, was because i was playing far too much poker, and trying to rush things, going out my bankroll most of the times, i know im a good poker player and that was my down fall, it only take a few bad beats to knock you down a peg, your feeling low at the moment and i think that whats happening here with you, its questioning your game and this can be a good thing, like shokaku says analyze your game work on your play, when not playing poker go through your hand history, on how to inprove your play to make you a better player i even play the 1p/2p cash games just to warm up b4 i go to my normal stake level, i even try some different moves (tactics) at that level cause if fails its not gonna touch my bankroll
to be a consistant winner at poker, you must understand that the level your playing might not be for you you first have to have the right to play at the level your bankrollroll is allowing you to play, you carnt just start to playing poker and deposit $500 and jump straight into playing 10p /25p and expect to be a winning player right away, start low and as your bankroll grows at playing them stake your inproving as a player too, once your crushing that level than you are ready to move up, than when you move up and finding things difficult you can always move back down to the level where you were winning, but you say you hate the 1p/2p games you really dont want to think like this if you wanna be a winning player, you have to make sacrifices and do things in poker which you dont like, but will be better in the long run if you do, i wish you good luck in what ever you do, also i wish i had $1 for every time i said i was gonna quit
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Wish you GL for your plans and I hope you will have a better week than the last one. Regarding special hand problems ask here in the forum. A lot of experienced players will help you (not me). And a tracker programm for sure is helpful.
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lol dozn01 Don't get me wrong I like the playing and like the buzz but If I lose It won't be i want to quite it will be cause i cant buy in again. But I now have the tracker and will be be studing how it works and how to use it. In some ways I am not that happy that these things even exist but as they do and other use them then I guess just to get even playing field I have to as well.
But yes I am going to (not play less) but have more breaks and I been told to break after a lose thats when I press (not so much bad but agressive) I tend to re raise all in on say tt but when I am happy i tend to raise small play the flop according even it means folding when the flop shows over cards.
But when I have lost to a few bad beats sick calls and maybe a hand thats impossible to dodge then I tend to go for coin flips ak for examaple i will press big. Which sure sometimes works but sometimes gets me in more s**t lol
But seems to me the consistant winners will be able to deal with this ToX
------------ Migo14 why would experianced players help me when they won't help you I am very curious as the reason for this
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Posted by tOxIcFiSh:
Migo14 why would experianced players help me when they won't help you I am very curious as the reason for this
I think he means that he is not one of the experienced player that will help. He is right though, if you post hands where you weren't sure whether you played them as best you could you will certainly get lots of valuable advise.
Posted by tOxIcFiSh: lol dozn01 Don't get me wrong I like the playing and like the buzz but If I lose It won't be i want to quite it will be cause i cant buy in again. But I now have the tracker and will be be studing how it works and how to use it. In some ways I am not that happy that these things even exist but as they do and other use them then I guess just to get even playing field I have to as well.
But yes I am going to (not play less) but have more breaks and I been told to break after a lose thats when I press (not so much bad but agressive) I tend to re raise all in on say tt but when I am happy i tend to raise small play the flop according even it means folding when the flop shows over cards.
But when I have lost to a few bad beats sick calls and maybe a hand thats impossible to dodge then I tend to go for coin flips ak for examaple i will press big. Which sure sometimes works but sometimes gets me in more s**t lol
But seems to me the consistant winners will be able to deal with this ToX
------------ Migo14 why would experianced players help me when they won't help you I am very curious as the reason for this
oh its just your title of your thread says might have to give up, and you have £300 left and you say if its keeps up like this you will be finished by the week,
to be honest i dont think the poker tracker software would be any good to you , after reading all your above posts, if your serious about poker drop stakes now yes its boring, but this is the foundation of making you a better player, read some books get some more experience under your belt, you first have to crawl b4 you can walk....................... this is all am gonna say on this matter cause you have different thought about this, dont go broke and good luck..................
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Well if you like free rolls try 24 hour they have a lot mostly 100 euro and one a day for 500 euro and the pay out is quite high as its only last 20 that get paid and most of it goes to the last 3. But you do get a lot enter but its worth it if you like free rolls. Hope it helps good luck
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Tox, have you read any hold em books?? Sklansky's Theory of Poker for example. Not only will it help your game but will give you something poker related to do when you are on life tilt and dont want to play for the rest of the day 300 quid is a decent roll mate, you have plenty of room to play around. IMHO, i would say drop your stakes, just so you arent hurting your roll so hard on the reg, and try and get in some good, solid reading. Learning and applying yourself will be the only way to become a consistent winner my man. GL, all the best, and if you need any help at all just post. Again, gl gl.
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You can quit now because you cant improve s**t to the end of this week. Learning to play poker is long process. Anyway, Im not big winner but I am consistant.... GL to you anyway...
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This is going to be a long answer to your question. You have been warned! As kids my brother and I played a lot of 7-stud poker against each other for fun, and then I went 25 years without playing before I started playing online 4 years ago. After about a year, in the summer of 2008, I took four weeks of vacation time but mostly stayed close to home, which allowed me to log good poker time in the morning and then have a day of activities with my wife and kids. Being loose and relaxed I killed the game, earning more in those weeks than I did from my job, and which caused me to think about whether or not I wanted to do this full time. I decided not to because I did not feel the future of online poker was secure enough, and although I enjoy playing very much, I did not see myself doing this every day all of the time. After my vacations were over and the stresses of everyday life returned my play was diminished and I have had my ups and downs with poker in the ensuing years. At my best I can do some serious damage up to about NL400/NL600, but consistency is what I am working on now. I would like this to become a profitable sideline that I still enjoy, all while slowly building up my bankroll more carefully than I have recently.
Some people do not feel poker books help, but I disagree. Most popular poker books (I am a fan of David Sklansky’s books) can be found as free downloads if you search on the internet, which has allowed me to read books I would not normally buy. What you learn you merge into your style of play and general strategy. Participating on this forum and discussing hands and strategy has also helped a lot, so post your hands that have not worked out and let’s talk about them. Hard to believe but since we rarely encounter each other on the felt, some really good poker knowledge is being shared here. Give it a try!
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Thanks guys I am gob smacked as to how much useful info you guys have given not to just me but to other threads I have read. I might no agree with what everyone says but at the end of the day it could be what I don't agree with is the very reason I am not doing so well. It's not like I don't know the game because I do but the intensity and necessity of what I want now is over whelming so I am going to go slower and build it slow but if i do lose the rest of my bank roll I dont and won't have any regrets I give it a try and time will tell now
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thing is you must realise poker is not the way to get rich overnight, its more of a long term process and it takes some time adjusting to the badbeats, variance and the dynamics of online poker. taking a break now and then helps if you are not running good. agree with dozn if u having a bad time try shifting stakes and maybe try different games too, gl with whatever you decide to do.
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Must reads
Harrington on Hold'em 1,2 and if you fancy a bit of a workbook style number 3. ( more focused on tournies ) David Sklansky - The theory of Poker David Sklansky & Mason Malmuth - Hold em Poker for Advanced players David Sklansky - No Limit Hold em Theory and Practice Sklansky,Malmuth, Miller - Small Stakes Hold em, Winning big with expert play.
And if you fancy delving into MTT's, you HAVE to read Sklansky - Tournament Poker for Advanced players ( the expanded edition, as it has an extra 100 pages on nlhe strat )
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The tracker will show if you are playing bad or just on a downswing, when playing every move is a good move, when you review things turn a little diffrent..I do think you are playing too much, try less hrs and more tables...books do help, but remember they are not the bible, there is tons of online help out there, some great vids<< Ha I still say vids. GL
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I believe you will be able to get through with this bad time you are having now. You know, sometimes its better to stop for a whyle instead of trying all the available moments to do something better for your game. This is an old advice but, go watch some TV, play some freerolls like if you have put some money there, go a bit lower on you game level, relax! You may have noticed that i always use your game forums to also talk about my game, so i will continue doing so if you dont mind. I don't want to compare anything, you are way better player than me, taking in consideration the amount of money you move in poker. Last friday became a great day for my bankroll, i manage to go up till $25 (from the $16 i told you last time) and my head is now boring me with the idea of changing to $5 SnG. I know the risk of doing so, i might loose it all with the idea of reaching the $50 faster, so i think i will keep on the $1 and $2 SnG double ups like i did till now. GL for tox and for all mobsters!
300 quid is a decent roll mate, you have plenty of room to play around. IMHO, i would say drop your stakes, just so you arent hurting your roll so hard on the reg, and try and get in some good, solid reading. Learning and applying yourself will be the only way to become a consistent 
