Joined: Feb '12
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Ya,....I prefer your second method,... At some point it's got to involve getting shoved,....so you might as well maximize the size of the pot I figure...
Some will fold away and you'll be left with a nice pot up for grabs....
Joined: Mar '11
Location: United Kingdom
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It all depends on what type of table you are on. If the table dynamic is that of aggression, i would just limp in and wait to check raise some aggro player. I find the best way to play them is to raise as normal instead of hoping someone else raises
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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That is my chance to get some chips, what better odds can i have preflop, so after a point having tried the other methods with raising reraising etc im stuck to an all in at once.Works better for me that way, at least so far.
Joined: May '08
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@op - well you forgot the "full-proof" way of going all in preflop without giving a sh1t on your position, then there is a cheeky method: going 99.99% in (just leaving a single chip in front of yourself) ... anyways what you forgot to take into account is what are you playing- cash, sng, tourneys and even more importantly what format... if it's a hyper turbo, then you basically just push, if it's a slow structure it depends on you chip stack, blinds, is it bubble time etc.
Joined: Feb '11
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A combination of the answers above is a great start for you AV, but perhaps as important is the type of game you are in and your position relative to the bubble. In some circumstances, it may be that you may wish to fold to ensure you save your life! Tough call but sometimes it may pay to foldem,
Joined: May '13
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Well it is common though and for me a limp re raise looks like premiums for me. I always do it, with AA and KK and still get called but when somebody does it I fold because limp reraise is so strong that it is almost certain to contain good cards.
Glad you saw a pattern in that play, you can balance your limp reraise by playing other cards there and getting called and then showing cards when river is over and people might call you lightly when you have AA and limp reraise
I wouldn´t recommend limp raising on micro stakes, because you can end up easily with all players at the table in the pot. But in some situations the limp can be the best play, mostly if you have less than 15 big blinds. You can induce some shoves...
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Poland
Age: 37 (M)
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Well
It depends what kind of game You play.
When it's MTT and late stage of tournament, I don't recommend to push all in, because UTG is very sensitive position in later stages, and players won't risk that much, but You can push when You are short stack, like less than 10 BB; Moreover on the early stages 4 BB raise or call/raise situation will be suitable.
On the cash games , it depends on how much PF raise do You prefer, and secondly how many players are usually pay to see flop, and how many 3bets they make; if they don't 3bet or do it very often, it's pointless to make a limp/raise situation, otherwise - consider this option.
When one opponent just call the raise, make a c-bet in most cases, but be careful when the opponent check Your c-bet on the drawing board. I would not recommend either, slowplaying a set with "wet" flop like Ks Qs Ac, it's too risky.
