| Davoodoo | 07/04/2009 14:43:39 GMT |
| Im glad they didnt run it twice or take money from the pot ... just plain poker as it always should be.
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| w00zy | 07/04/2009 14:59:03 GMT |
| I don't feel sorry for Greenstein... He cracked Durrr Aces on a donk play and now Durrr cracked his Aces... and this time the math wasn't idiotic, just a 50/50.
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| guille22xt | 07/04/2009 15:44:36 GMT |
| Tom dwan, Hes totally crazy haha, but he rocks as the player he is! I totally love his loose and agressive style!
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| M3turbo | 07/04/2009 17:39:46 GMT |
Posted by shokaku: Posted by Flangel:
The Only person besides Dwan that should call this big reraise all move would be Sam Farha.
I couldnt put 500.000$ on this hand imho |
After Dwan had raised on the flop, he could no longer fold that hand. |
Yep he was pot comitted.
Never understood why you (shokaku) wasn't in the top of the "top poster" thread you seem like one of the few who got knowledge about the game and are willing to share it 
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| CBET | 07/04/2009 17:47:17 GMT |
Nice ammount, it would be great if they will give me a part if that money ))) without any reason, I just want it... and why my dreams never happen 
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| Mordo | 07/04/2009 23:01:42 GMT |
| gg then
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| awood88 | 07/04/2009 23:36:31 GMT |
| what happens if they run it twice. do they deal two turns and two rivers. who wins then? I've never heard of this
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| GeneYuss | 08/04/2009 02:52:46 GMT |
GSN uploads the full videos to youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/gsnvideos?blend=1&ob=4
I think the slogan "math is idiotic" kind of sucks, they could have come up with a better phrase than that..."Ship it Crucial"was so much better.
awood88, run it twice is the turn and river is dealt twice and if they both win one than its a split pot, if someone wins twice than he wins the pot. I think running it twice favours the losing hand but I'm not sure.
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| M3turbo | 08/04/2009 03:02:58 GMT |
Posted by GeneYuss:
I think running it twice favours the losing hand but I'm not sure. |
Yep it does, I like Barry's style allways running it once. Running a 1 mill pot twice is like running 2 500K pots imo. "Destroying" the idea of high stakes poker if they chop the big pots in peaces they might as well play smaller amounts. But it's all fun to watch so who cares 
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| GeneYuss | 08/04/2009 03:25:56 GMT |
M3turbo, why would someone want to run it twice if they are ahead, just because they don't want to lose a big pot? Ya, I know what you mean "Destroying" the idea of high stakes, I guess most of the players are playing higher stakes than they should. Would running it 3 times favour the winning hand? I think so.
And what do you think about buying insurance, it's somewhat similar to running it twice. Phil Hellmuth always buys insurance. If he always gets his hand in as a favourite than he can't lose but he is always losing equity right?
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| Flangel | 08/04/2009 06:51:14 GMT |
If Phil starts ralmbling about insurance, I lose my head. The way he speaks of insurance
And Phil will only take insurance when he thinks he can be beaten.
--> Watch his patented all in moves, then he was convinced he had the best hand.
HSP stays a 'private' cash game, so for all I care they may run the whole deck 50 times.
Same goes for straddling, wich We do also here at home.
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| shokaku | 08/04/2009 07:44:10 GMT |
Posted by GeneYuss:
And what do you think about buying insurance, it's somewhat similar to running it twice. Phil Hellmuth always buys insurance. If he always gets his hand in as a favourite than he can't lose but he is always losing equity right? |
I guess his acting is to make dead sure that everyone notices that he puts his chips in while ahead. And if he should lose the hand it is only because of his bad luck. 
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| awood88 | 08/04/2009 12:05:49 GMT |
I think asking for insurance is ok when you're in a multi-day tournament and you're tournaments on the line. After all the work you don't want to go home empty handed. You only lose equity if you go on to win and if there's a forty percent chance you can go home with nothing, then I'd take the option of a guaranteed prize.
Flangel, obviously phil only asks for insurance when he can be beaten. there's no point in insurance if you have the nuts. that would be giving money away for nothing.
If you run the hand twice do you shuffle the deck with the first turn and river again before the second deal. if not running it twice would definitely favour Greenstein because Durr needs to hit one of his outs twice. if he hits first time thats one less out for him to hit the second time. Although split pot is much more likely.
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| Tekkes | 08/04/2009 15:31:12 GMT |
| When running a hand twice the cards aren't reshuffled, they use the remaining cards. I think it's good they didn't run it twice, most of the big pots get run twice. Kinda makes it lame, would be skared to lose those amount too though.
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| eaziabi | 08/04/2009 16:08:16 GMT |
it was a standard play by both players raise re-raise shove it happens with me all the time too...
only difference n the hype being the size pf the pot
btw DURRRRRS god of online poker n whoever says hes an idiot should check out his bank baln
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| GeneYuss | 09/04/2009 04:12:38 GMT |
Flangel, I seen the Phil Hellmuth insta call against Greenstein on HSP. I think there was another insta call on Poker after dark where hellmuth lost set over set, did you see that one? I think Phil Hellmuth just gets emotional when players overplay their hands and he can't wait to get his money in there.
shokaku, I know what you mean. Like Jedi mind tricks, Phil tries to get other people to think the way he wants them to.
Anyway, it must suck to lose the biggest pot. I wonder what Greenstein's networth is. He probably has people to stake him.
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| awood88 | 09/04/2009 14:25:48 GMT |
Posted by GeneYuss:
Anyway, it must suck to lose the biggest pot. I wonder what Greenstein's networth is. He probably has people to stake him. |
Yeah. I expect many of them do. It's another form of insurance but I wouldn't like to have it on my shoulders the fact that it's not just my money I'm losing. Imagine knowing if you lose this hand you're directly losing others hundreds maybe thousands of dollars. More pressure in my opinion than losing your own half a million.
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| Flangel | 09/04/2009 15:33:35 GMT |
http://www.pokertube.com/Movies.aspx?movie=9570&Key...
Listen to this review on pokertube
They are analyzing the hands from Barry and Tom Dwa ( AA vs J-9, AA vs 42 vs Q10 and AA vs KQ)
Its a live interview with Barry Greenstein
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Posted by GeneYuss:
Flangel, I seen the Phil Hellmuth insta call against Greenstein on HSP. I think there was another insta call on Poker after dark where hellmuth lost set over set, did you see that one? I think Phil Hellmuth just gets emotional when players overplay their hands and he can't wait to get his money in there |
Yep, Ive seen all his patend allin calls on the net, PAD, HSP etc.
Helmuth is always emotional. Most of the time crybaby..
WSOP 2008: Q10 vs his set of 8
WSOP 2008 10-4 v his AK . PLayers outplays helmuth and start yelling to him ' your an idiot'
Phil crosses way too much these lines of curtosy ,11 Bracelets or not.
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| Bizla | 09/04/2009 18:58:11 GMT |
| Phil is an idiot.
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| Webs367 | 10/04/2009 00:17:01 GMT |
Posted by Bizla:
Phil is an idiot. |
An idiot who won 11 WSOP bracelets 
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| GeneYuss | 11/04/2009 19:25:17 GMT |
Flangel , thanks for the video, it's a long video, I'll watch it later. Do you listen to Tuesdays with Ivey and Greenstein?
Ya, I seen those videos of Hellmuth on youtube. A lot of time he's out of line but it makes good tv 
awood88, I think Eli Elezra is staked too. He's always giving money away.
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| acidpob303 | 11/04/2009 20:21:14 GMT |
| what a pot, derr has something u have to say..
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| Fakiry | 13/04/2009 20:08:15 GMT |
Now here is the write way how a story like this should be written. Nice work "T".
This is the way everybody understands what has happened, the factual way. You don´t have to comment why Eastgate decides to quit, each one thinks whatever wants about is decision. If it has been declared in the end of the game, perhaps you should have tryed to ear from him. If not, you don´t have to suppose nothing. Apart from this, it should be great to feel the heart beat with a 900k pot in front of us. Wow... better not show much entusiasm or we can get easyly readed by others...
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| ArpSoft | 17/04/2009 16:39:18 GMT |
| My good, no comment on that one...
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| EimsbushKing | 01/01/2010 04:27:30 GMT |
dwan is just lucky but no very good player.
Isildur1 said that he got a huge edge against durrrr because dwan makes a lot of stupid plays. and he absolut right.
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K
and Greenstein raise to $15, 000 with A
A
. Tom "durrrr" Dwan has picked up K
