SAY IM HOLDING QT in a cash game and flop comes Q T 3
Im an aggressive player and decide to go alling having my two pair as Im shortstacked (probably because Im an agressive player playing the hand im descrbing )
So the person with 10 times as much as me called with A J.
At this stage im like well ahead. Even if you say yes but there's two cards to come for him to get a King and make his straight
but conversly there are two cards to come for me to get a Queen or a Ten to make a full house.
So why does always the river 'seem' to make his straight and not my fullhouse?
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Posted by exostenz: So why does always the river 'seem' to make his straight and not my fullhouse?
Selective memory. If he makes his straight and beats you, you will remember it. But if he does not hit, or you make your full house, you will collect the money and forget about that hand rather quickly.
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Why u never count % ? its only 4 cards 4 u its only 2 % 4 full house making and 20 % for making straight but till the river u have 80 % 4 win but if u play long time poker u can see only one if u are the winner till but about 30 % hands rivered not 4 winer but 4 loser so river cards can easy knock u out or help up but its only my opinion i paly poker and i calculate that my self
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by exostenz: So why does always the river 'seem' to make his straight and not my fullhouse?
Selective memory. If he makes his straight and beats you, you will remember it. But if he does not hit, or you make your full house, you will collect the money and forget about that hand rather quickly.
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by shokaku:
Posted by exostenz: So why does always the river 'seem' to make his straight and not my fullhouse?
Selective memory. If he makes his straight and beats you, you will remember it. But if he does not hit, or you make your full house, you will collect the money and forget about that hand rather quickly.
Because I think all hands are pre-scheduled. Random (?) software gives cards according a sequence and whole hand is written before starting. Otherwise why people calling your AA with 8 2 somtimes win ? Don't want absolutely to say softwares aer rigged but, as for me, they work this way.
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Sometimes it feels like you have all odds against you. Getting rivered while you had the best chances. But also when YOU decide to go for a draw, to chase it all the way against some middle pair and you end up losing. I understand you get the feeling that the software is rigged, because i never seen so many pocket pair dealt at the same time as when playing online poker. When you have AA, you can count on it that there are at least 2 more pocket pairs dealt. And you end up getting raped by the pocket nines or sixes. The sites reward stupid players, so they are willing to keep the money coming. If you stick to your normal style of play and have good bankroll management, you will be the winner in long term. Just remember that.
You didn't mention how much was in your stack. Maybe your op didn't have to put much more into the pot in order to make that call anyway being that your playing sss. Don't think I am making a dig at your playing style because I'll play sss sometimes to change it up from time to time. Sometimes when I have a good hand I'll play against sss players because even if you loose, you don't have the risk of losing your stack. Only a few BB's. ----------- Plus, if you have luck like me. The "POKER GODS" don't take care of you either.
Posted by pziko1986: Sometimes it feels like you have all odds against you. Getting rivered while you had the best chances. But also when YOU decide to go for a draw, to chase it all the way against some middle pair and you end up losing. I understand you get the feeling that the software is rigged, because i never seen so many pocket pair dealt at the same time as when playing online poker. When you have AA, you can count on it that there are at least 2 more pocket pairs dealt. And you end up getting raped by the pocket nines or sixes. The sites reward stupid players, so they are willing to keep the money coming. If you stick to your normal style of play and have good bankroll management, you will be the winner in long term. Just remember that.
At the micro stakes NL5, NL2, theres alot of idiot donks that will call you down with even bottom pair & end up making a hand that beats yours by the river, but thats only a portion of the time, most of time your made hand will beat theirs & they will pay to keep you honest just to say they can't be bluffed; the typical "calling stations"... these are the easiest & most profitable players to go against, sure they may suck out on you in the short term catching miracle 2 outers, but its not about short term results, its about the long term & making the correct decisions all the way along.
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]Posted by pziko1986: Sometimes it feels like you have all odds against you. Getting rivered while you had the best /chances. But also when YOU decide to go for a draw, to chase it all the way against some middle pair and you end up losing. I understand you get the feeling that the software is rigged, because i ,never seen so many pocket pair dealt at the same time as when playing online poker. When you have AA, you can count on it that there are at least 2 more pocket pairs dealt. And you end up .getting raped by the pocket nines or sixes. The sites reward stupid players, so they are willing to keep the money coming. If you stick to your normal style of play and have good bankroll .management, you will be the winner in long term. Just remember that.
yea.. i understand the feeling too.. when bad streak come, anything is possible.. nice info there
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Posted by NANACONDA: I wouldn't really call this a "hand that catches you out". That would be like a small set or something. This is just an suckout really.
I totally agree. I thought I was going to read some hands difficult to read, hands that usually catch us, like set, gut shots, over sets, two pairs when you have TPTK, etc. But I found a "bad beat" thread hahahaha.
Well anyway shokaku's wisdom has said the right aswer: Selective memory. We forgen not only whne nothing happen, but also whne we are holding the gut shot and hit it on the river ahha.
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by exostenz: So why does always the river 'seem' to make his straight and not my fullhouse?
Selective memory. If he makes his straight and beats you, you will remember it. But if he does not hit, or you make your full house, you will collect the money and forget about that hand rather quickly.
that s pretty much it. U have to understand that losing 10bi feels a lot worse than proportionally feel good to win 10bi
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