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Joined: Oct '09
Location: Ireland
Age: 34 (M)
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With pairs in tourneys i tend to just fold them or else go allin pre flop, because after the flop they are tricky to play, for example you wouldn't have to made this difficult decision.
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Posted by fcumred: Was it a bad call - YES
Are you a donk - raising with K 9 offsuit UTG - DEFINITELY
Did you get lucky - NATURALLY. ISNT THAT ALWAYS THE CASE
Will you learn from it - VERY UNLIKELY
are you proud of yourself - MORE THAN LIKELY
Lol. First I wasn't raising with K9o. Second I'm not proud of my call. I have doubts if it was the right move, that's why I'm asking.
I agree with awood, I think my call to his min-raise on the flop is a bad move, but I thought in that moment to call to see what he would do on the turn. (Horrible thinking ahahahah) when another Jack came I really think I was ahead on the hand. (Would he re-raise with the 10 on the flop???, I don't think so)
Anyway I have to say that it was no easy to me make the call. I spent almost all my time bank taking the decision.
I like to discuss with other player and to know their points of views and thinking process. I'm still too ABC player and I really think the only way to improve is talking about this kind of hands with other poker player and learning from my mystakes.
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 43 (M)
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its difficult because j and ten stronger hands but u have not very bad card then second jack come so have both strong hands because j + 10 in one hand is really low % to have so 9 strong hand but 8 is strong too so no donk there is only good dificult decision trying to win some more but 88 knocked out by 99 only unlacky dealers first card giving
Most people would have thrown pocket 9's after that flop when bet into , but u decided to play them through. It looks like u were suspicious of villians strength and decided u wern't going to be bluffed off this hand. On the other side, villian must have successfully won pots like this with a weak hand before and thought he could do it to u.
Joined: Sep '09
Location: France
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Its way 2 early in the tournament to play so aggressive. Even ur raise sucked. And he could have any pair from 10-10 to A-A. Imo its one of the worst play ever
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Belgium
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Thing is to know if u made that calls instinctively or if u just had some thinking before call. If calls were impulsive they are bad for me, but if u really take your time to analyze the situation and the call was good for u, well its a good call. Depend of the way you made it for me
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Given the situation I think you were absolutely right to call. If you review the hand it was not likely that you were up against one of the A hands such as AJ or AQ and especially not AK. If on the flop he pushed all in perhaps you could have folded then, but he didnt. You lead out, which is what you were supposed to do. Then he min raised you......A min raise is not typical for even a lowly hand such as Top Pair Top Kicker so you had to assume he was also with a pocket pair. Now if that pair were bigger than 99 it would have sucked, but in all truth he would (or should) have bet more preflop and certainly would have WHAMED THE FLOP. If you were drawing dead to trips or something....what could you do? To me, you were too pot comitted to muck at that point. NH
Joined: Nov '08
Location: United Kingdom
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its maginal but i voted for Donk call.. You said your self that you had no reads on this dude so why did you play the way you discribe?? I've been in very simalar situations and its never easy to put them on those cards but for the sake of your tourny do you feel it was a risk worth taking? being marginally ahead in the hand and not knowing that was a bold move but for the fact you took him out .... what can any one say except well done. Did you go on to win any thing? The bottom line i feel is that you was gambleing not playing poker a deadicated player would just let it go and pick a better spot to take him out.
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Location: Australia
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shouldve folded man. IMO
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Posted by pok3rpl8yer: Given the situation I think you were absolutely right to call. If you review the hand it was not likely that you were up against one of the A hands such as AJ or AQ and especially not AK. If on the flop he pushed all in perhaps you could have folded then, but he didnt. You lead out, which is what you were supposed to do. Then he min raised you......A min raise is not typical for even a lowly hand such as Top Pair Top Kicker so you had to assume he was also with a pocket pair. Now if that pair were bigger than 99 it would have sucked, but in all truth he would (or should) have bet more preflop and certainly would have WHAMED THE FLOP. If you were drawing dead to trips or something....what could you do? To me, you were too pot comitted to muck at that point. NH
sorry, thats just rubbish, when playing mid pkts you need to see as many cards as you can for as cheap as you can, raising was a mistake from the OP IMO, but then to be re raised, pffft, you get the f**k out if you havnt hit, simple.
you also have to consider if the 9 hit what could it mean to your opponent, the 9 makes an OE "board" str8 draw and if he was playing a draw it would end you if the 9 hit, if he had Q,K or 7,8 that is, a lot of people rate open ended str8 draws and play them freely.
Edited by intentcity4 (21 November 2009 @ 14:08 GMT)
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The only one that can answer that is you.Did u make the call 'cause u thought u were ahead,congrats you are a card player.If you made is a gamble ,well...
Posted by SuperNoob: i think it was a bad call from you if you had no player reads irrespective of the bet patterns, you just got lucky that he had a lower pocket pair and you won. be careful next time
is only good dificult decision trying to win some more but 88 knocked out by 99 only unlacky dealers first card giving 
JT were enought to beat it..
