How you usually play a starting hand of AA preflop?
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AA is the best possible starting hand, and plays best against one or maybe two opponents. So one should try to build a pot preflop and working to get it heads uo. Usually betting is the best way to do so. There may be situations, where going for a limp-raise is the best option.
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I never ever slowplay AA, last time i did that was more then 1 year ago. I have difficulties laydown AA on the flop/turn/river when i am beat, i can do it, but hate it
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It really depends on what game your playing. If it's a rebuy tourney - always all-in - also early blinds. If it's a turbo-tourney - also all-in. In any tourney running deep - all-in. But in _most_ tourneys you want to run deep and stay alive and AA is only a pair so a reasonable preflop bet to build the pot is the way to go. You also want to have the oppurtunity to get out of the hand cheap. Most players overplay their AA in tourneys and get sucked out on.....
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Hi all! I voted "Bet as much as possible to see the fllop" AND THATS THE RIGHT THING TO DO WITH AA! BUT if you know there is a donk on the tabble youre playing on it can be very tricky! I mean,if there is a player that dont know how to play "right"! He call you, For example the flop is 3,6,k offsuited! The donk calls! Turncard is 7! The donk call or raise/all in on the river, either because he doesnt know better or because he just is stupid! River card is maybe 2! You think your han is the strongest, but it isnt anymore! The donk win the pot with 2 pairs. Lets just say he have pair 7 & pair 3! Ofcourse this will not happen when playing a very expensive tournament/sitngo or on high cash tabbles! BUT BEWARE OFF THE DONKS GUYS! Hehe, there are so many of them!
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at 1-st i take only a little put chips and see flop want something too play maybe they catch pair after that flop put all in usually its more risiking but and more wining play 4 me
Never slow play and always try to get as much in the pot as possible. Also try to get the table isolated down to as few players as possible and make them go all in pf. Slow playing just allows weaker pp's in the hand making the chance for the op hitting a set more likely.
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Raise(normall) re-raise if possable and if able the mighty all in. I will at times limp, but only when I know that I will be raised so I can get in a re-raise.
You cant have a standard way of playing AA. Each situation is different.
You have to take into consideration so many factors.
Position at table Actions of others leading into you SIze of hte blinds Your chipstack whether players are loose or tight How close to the bubble you are
If you are at the start of a game you clearly would be an idiot to go all in with AA. You deserve to get beaten just for being a complete idiot.
However late in a game, you are shortstacked and on the button with AA and you need chips, then only a fool would not go all in.By the same token, sometimes late in a game when you need chips there is merit in slowplaying AA to try get valuable chips. If shoving all in means you drive others out the pot, sometimes when the blinds are huge, it pays to just check to see the flop and gamble that your aces will hold up.. Risky, but then again the rewards can be far greater.....
If I am at the start of a game the blinds are 10/20 then I may raise to 120 to try get it HU pre flop. But later on in the game a 6xBB raise would just force everyone to fold and I wouldnt get the best value from them, so then if hte blinds were 5000/10000 and I had 100K in chips I may only raise 30k..
Poker is about situations, and AA is the perfect example of having different strategies dependant on each situation.. Anyone who cant think up different strategies for playing AA is a very very weak player indeed....
Posted by PorscheGT: all in after flop, and nice raise on preflop to make sure that no 36 gonna check
So you raise pre flop with AA.. the flop comes over K K Q. You are going to shove all in ? What are the chances of someone calling your pre flop raise with a K in their hand.. Quite high I should imagine...
More to the point what if you have position on your opponent and hes called your raise. THe flop comes over three diamonds, and he shoves all in.. You are going to call...
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Omg I can't believe what just happened. AA utg with blinds 15 + 30 I raise to 75. I get about six callers including the blinds (absolute nightmare to go the flop seven handed with AA). Flop is 10 J 2 rainbow which is worrying as players last to call may have done so with 10 J but I can't give players with 10s and 2s a chance to hit second pair so I make a pot sized bet. One player (a slightly bigger stack) goes all in and I think s**t but there's no way I can fold as he could easily have KJ. Player on the button calls and of course so do I. First guy shows J 7, button shows only flipping AA. River comes, yes you've guessed it a Jack.
As far as I see I did nothing wrong, but you would have thought the idiot in last position should have raised preflop to get rid of J 7 and the likes. I mean he had one UTG raiser showing strength and three callers and he chooses to call to get the big blind committed. What a bad way to play AA preflop.
Posted by awood88: Omg I can't believe what just happened. AA utg with blinds 15 + 30 I raise to 75. I get about six callers including the blinds (absolute nightmare to go the flop seven handed with AA). Flop is 10 J 2 rainbow which is worrying as players last to call may have done so with 10 J but I can't give players with 10s and 2s a chance to hit second pair so I make a pot sized bet. One player (a slightly bigger stack) goes all in and I think s**t but there's no way I can fold as he could easily have KJ. Player on the button calls and of course so do I. First guy shows J 7, button shows only flipping AA. River comes, yes you've guessed it a Jack.
As far as I see I did nothing wrong, but you would have thought the idiot in last position should have raised preflop to get rid of J 7 and the likes. I mean he had one UTG raiser showing strength and three callers and he chooses to call to get the big blind committed. What a bad way to play AA preflop.
I can tell you exactly where you went wrong.
Your pre flop raise was no where near big enougn..
At the early stages of a game you should be raising at least 4 times the big blind, plus one extra for each limper.
So if you are in late position and three people have limped you shold be raising 7 x BB which iis 210..
You have to think what pot odds you are giving people by raising.. If you only raised 75 chips then you are giving people lovely odds to call.
Think of it this way
6 limpers x 30 = 180 blinds = 45 Your raise = 75
Total pot = 300.
You are offering them a chance to win 300 chips for an extra 45 chips. A return of 6-1 if they win
However you increase your raise
6 x limper x 30 = 180 blinds = 45 your raise = 210
Total pot = 435
They then have to put in an extra 180 to win 435. A return of 2-1 if they win.
when raising you need to make it unprofitable for them to call with weak hands.
You give me a chance at a 300 pot for 45 chips I'll take it every time. You give me a chance of a 500 pot but its going to cost me 300 chips to get it, I am seriously gonna rethink whether its worth it.
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Posted by fcumred:
Posted by awood88: Omg I can't believe what just happened. AA utg with blinds 15 + 30 I raise to 75. I get about six callers including the blinds (absolute nightmare to go the flop seven handed with AA). Flop is 10 J 2 rainbow which is worrying as players last to call may have done so with 10 J but I can't give players with 10s and 2s a chance to hit second pair so I make a pot sized bet. One player (a slightly bigger stack) goes all in and I think s**t but there's no way I can fold as he could easily have KJ. Player on the button calls and of course so do I. First guy shows J 7, button shows only flipping AA. River comes, yes you've guessed it a Jack.
As far as I see I did nothing wrong, but you would have thought the idiot in last position should have raised preflop to get rid of J 7 and the likes. I mean he had one UTG raiser showing strength and three callers and he chooses to call to get the big blind committed. What a bad way to play AA preflop.
I can tell you exactly where you went wrong.
Your pre flop raise was no where near big enougn..
At the early stages of a game you should be raising at least 4 times the big blind, plus one extra for each limper.
So if you are in late position and three people have limped you shold be raising 7 x BB which iis 210..
You have to think what pot odds you are giving people by raising.. If you only raised 75 chips then you are giving people lovely odds to call.
Think of it this way
6 limpers x 30 = 180 blinds = 45 Your raise = 75
Total pot = 300.
You are offering them a chance to win 300 chips for an extra 45 chips. A return of 6-1 if they win
However you increase your raise
6 x limper x 30 = 180 blinds = 45 your raise = 210
Total pot = 435
They then have to put in an extra 180 to win 435. A return of 2-1 if they win.
when raising you need to make it unprofitable for them to call with weak hands.
You give me a chance at a 300 pot for 45 chips I'll take it every time. You give me a chance of a 500 pot but its going to cost me 300 chips to get it, I am seriously gonna rethink whether its worth it.
Why don't you read my post properly before posting idiot. I'm not going to carry on reading yours until you finish reading mine. I was UTG. There were two people with AA in the hand. I would never just call or make such a pathetic raise in late position. I raised to 75 cos if I wanted action. I didn't want to scare players with A rag off but I didn't want to give the big blind reason to call with anything, which he wouldn't have if there wasn't at least three callers but of course with five he has odds to call with 5 6 etc
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I usually bet 4x the Blind if no one get in before me, if 1 more get in before, i put 1x more the Big Blind (5x then) if someone raises before me i do 4x the raise, if 2 people raises before me i go all in, and if some one rereises me i go all in. Thats it
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I think fcumred can quite safely say once again your pre-flop bet was not big enough. And his explination of why is good, ass for the guy in position nt raising, well is that the reason you lost? Are you blaiming someone else, what if he didnt have AA and folded? you still got a chit load of players in the pot due to your bad raise. If its not yor normall raise PPL might think hes got AA lets crack this guy, and you give them good odds to take a shoot.
its more risiking but and more wining play 4 me 
