The starting hand of KK, how do you think is better to play?
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Joined: May '09
Location: France
Age: 42 (M)
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wooow this is the best mistake you can do with KK :// Just call pré-flop was the first mistake. But if you just call you must be very agressive on the flop. H. check and M. check too, this is a very bad move because after this M. think he can be against 3 of a kind so normaly he can't raise and he must just call, but fold is the third mistake. KK is not AA :/ when you slow play KK and you lose against A7, this is really bad arff what a biggest consecutive mistakes
Joined: Nov '08
Location: United Kingdom
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In general i would make a raise but on occasions i have just called to see a flop. My thinking is that if i just call and the BB or SB have Ax they will generally raise me so then i can have the next decission wether or not to re-raise.
Not all in directly, raise or reraise pre flop, all in after flop if any ace is on table. As AA can be a winning hand most of times or gives you a bad beat. Very difficult to fold but sometimes is required
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Canada
Age: 40 (M)
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The only time you would just want to call, is if your in early position and the table your at is aggressive, then if someone raises, throw out a hefty re-raise. You dont want any garbage hands going in on the flop
Joined: Jan '09
Location: New Zealand
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Probably raise and try and get it all in PF.And C-bet pot sized bet during flop if im first to act. It depends on the opponent and the board if im position though.
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
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RAISE! KK is a monster hand but like AA does not hold up well against several callers. Even if Ace comes on the flop bet again: those who called you might not have Ace and even if they do, if they called with A-T and think you have A-K they might go away. I have bet hard on the flop with KK when Ace came up, and the delay in response from the other player led me to believe they were MAYBE folding Ace with so-so kicker. If they call then proceed with caution obviously! Good Luck!
Joined: Nov '09
Location: Philippines
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i usually make a raise in the early position.., if im in the middle if there were only a few players joining the pot or nobody entered the pot yet i raise a sizable amount.., i go all in in the late position if no one has yet to enter the pot...
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Estonia
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Posted by psycokiller: If your in any position raise 3-5x BB. If someone raises in front, reraise 3x bet. If someone raises behind u, reraise 4x bet. If someone pushes, consider the player before calling.
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Location: Germany
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Posted by mazas: i usually play like that 1-st easy rise 2- nd see the floped card and if no A just push all in 3 - rd maybe some call u and u ll win
just good luck all
That would be the correct play for shortstacks. With a stack greater than double of the potsize, you shouldn't shove but 4Bet or betting the potsize. If an Ace comes on the flop you might fold on a reraise but that depends on your oponent. Slowplay with kings is risky but it can be more profitable thats why it's played often that way. But you shouldn't. Maybe when you have quads on flop and your hand can't be beaten any more.
Joined: Feb '08
Location: France
Age: 37 (M)
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Personally PARRA, I just take a large portion of my chips and write them off every time I see KK
Actually, it depends on the table but a min of 50% of your chips need to hit the pot preflop and the rest right after the flop as long as an A does not hit the board.
Making a standard raise is the right play, never try to limp with the hand except in SOME situations... if someone raised before you then either you just call or reraise if you feel that someone else will probably call after you... well the worst thing that can happen to you with holding that hand is that the other has ACES.
