have u ever with AA in hand won deal on poker site full tilt ?
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1)the biggest mistake is people try to be too deceptive with it.
2) close drawy boards dont get greedy.
3) raise big pre depending on table style players etc
4) for every action theres a reaction you gotta bet to know what your opponant has if he has 2 pair or a set your done for, aa is just a pair but if you have a good reading ability you know when its good.
5) rapid betting pattern change if a player puts you on aa because of a sudden pops and re pops and your full aggression, and still fights back you know your beat.
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AA is not always a winning hand , i lost oftend with AA and won oftend with AA , sometimes you lose 3 in a row and then you win 6 of them in a row and this happends everywhere , not only online but in a casino but also at home or in a pub between friends .
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Have won most of the AA hands when i was all in preflop but after flop there is more beats with small pair sets etc. But yesterday saw on three tables in a row how KK lost to A3 (str8) A7(A on flop) and AJ (J on flop and J on turn) was funny to watch this... i guess odss KK vs A3 or AJ is around 70% vs 30% but after i saw those three i think its more like 40% vs 60%
Posted by mazas: i wonder just play 5 times on Full Tilt with in hand AA and never won it so have one question have u ever win with AA in hand
i put just all in or call if some put all in and when the flop come i am leader but turn or river just knock me out so they have straights or flush and i only AA or AAA and also i two times see then over players have AA and they was easy beaten
so have u ever with AA in hand won deal on poker site full tilt ?
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thx for all voter and poster saw that have just unlucky hands then have AA so never put all in in future on full tilt because is the easyiest way to loose all but its only for me
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Most of the time if i go all in with aces i am winning, but there are some not so lucky river cards when i get punched in the face, but can't be a winner all the time
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the first inportant thing to do with AA, is to raise the bigblind... How much you have to raise is up to you! Why is it inportant to raise bigblind? because if bigblind se the flop, and he has something like 7 2 ( cards you normaly will fold ) or 23 souited... then he could be lucky to the he hits to good, and will never fold, and you think your hand sill is ok, but, no!! bigblind could with some luck win.
now 1 step, to raise bigblind secures you ( at least a little ) that you dont have to think to much about ppl winning with cards you would not belive could win, when you se all the cards on the table. in reality: if you dont raise blind, you make a huge favor to bigblind. ( a once won with 2 3 suited, over AA, KK DD, and KD ... i had bigblind, and they never raised my bigblind. saw my big chance for straight flush, and called them down. ( they were realy slowplaying, so i could se all the cards i needed, without getting poor) i saw my staright flush, they saw a lot of low cards and a queen. så they all thought they had the pot. i was the only one kowing is was mine, so i just let them do all the work. if they had raised my flop, just a little, i could have ended with folding my crap hand. afterwords they all said: WHAT ? ... i replyed: you all forgot to raise my bigblind!!!
to go allin preflop, with AA, that you easyly could do.. but you end most of the time, just stealing the blind, by doing so. Another thing with going allin preflop, with AA, if you se 3 times spades in flop, and you dont have any spades, you can not hit the brakes. and opponent could end with flush he hit with his pair of 2 (* spade 2 )
normaly i say: AA are the cards i make the powest raise with, and AK is the cards i make the highest raise with. ( maybe like 2½ times bigblind on AA, and maybe 4 times bigblind vith AK ) it could easy be higher bids, than the ones i wrote... depending of how many already has bid. i whant tehm to fold, so we end 2-3 ppl playing that hand, and depending of how the table plays.
if a player har raised bigblind maybe 3 times bigblind, i will reraise him. i reraise all bids, until flop. (* the only hand i am shure i will always reraise preflop. because if somebody raises, i am shure he will not fold. ( just a normal 1 klick reraise, that he is commited to call)
We also have to remember that AA is not a 100 % hand, there are no 100% hands. AA is more like 66 % preflop. that means that you dont win with them every time. if you winn with AA every time, you are very lucky or the site is rigged
bAck to the AA... after seeing the flop. if your opponent is the kind of player, that never folds the flop bid, raise it with the pot, because you know he will call, and maybe fold after the turner card. so this way, jou get at least the pot from him. next bid, ( turner card) yo have to deside, how dangerus the table is. maybe you have to check, raise, or go allin now. if f.eks you think you are winning, but getting to close to a flush or straight or a there is 2 pairs on the pable ( not yours ) he could easyly have e house. if you just check at this time, your opponent could wink you are in bad s**t, and he will begin to think about going allin against you instead. and then you are traped. ( so think about just checking, if you hit very good )
ok, if it is a rebuy turnament and it just started, then you could think about just biding the pot every time. because a lot of ppl think they have to call until river, if they have a tiny lille chance.
in rality there is no standart way to play any cards. 1 time one strategi is the best, other times they are the worst. if your opponent starts with going allin preflop, then it is not poker anymore, but lotto. and then it is your 66% against hit maybe 55% and hopefully you win. and as we all know: we never fold AA preflop !
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With AA maths says you have 7 in 10 chances of winning. Perhaps you spent the three of the first attempt loosing and now you just lost another two times from the second attempt. In theory, theses means you will only loose one more time in the next 15 times you play with AA in hand Fulltilt. Seems really nice to me - here is a good motive to help you pass that tilt time (now this has value to that room, if you play AA in other rooms statistics become different ).
Posted by fcumred: It might come as a shock for some people, but if you go all in with AA every time you get it, you would still only win 78% of the time..
AA is only the best starting hand. Its not guaranteed to be hte best finishing hand
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Posted by mazas: i wonder just play 5 times on Full Tilt with in hand AA and never won it so have one question have u ever win with AA in hand
i put just all in or call if some put all in and when the flop come i am leader but turn or river just knock me out so they have straights or flush and i only AA or AAA and also i two times see then over players have AA and they was easy beaten
so have u ever with AA in hand won deal on poker site full tilt ?
thx for answer
my aces lost against 6 2 offsuit and pocket 6s yesterday so i know how you feel
Posted by TheCardDemon: A hand like AA is dangerous, even if it's the best ranked hand PRFL. But the software of most sites has been written (believe me : I know from inside sources) so that a hand with AA get tough competition. You always have to remember one VERY IMPORTANT THING : the softwares are written for GAMBLERS, so writing it so that a PRFL AA hand would always win would not be in their advantage.
That kept in mind, the best thing to do is trying to get the pot up as high as possible vefore flop and on the flop, but then go in hard and try to get the hand as soon as you can, even on the flop already. That is the only way to avoid the (very often seen) higher hands coming on turn and river. The longer you wait to grab the pot, the less your chances of getting the pot : you're giving your opponents extra chances to get draws, trips etc. So with AA, TAKE THE HAND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE for whatever value you can take it (but it's up to you to get that pot up as high as possible before the flop !!!)
Think about this : EVERY WIN IS A WIN, and trying to always want more and bigger pots will eventually be your death
'But the software of most sites has been written (believe me : I know from inside sources) so that a hand with AA get tough competition. You always have to remember one VERY IMPORTANT THING : the softwares are written for GAMBLERS, so writing it so that a PRFL AA hand would always win would not be in their advantage.'
Total crap.
The second part is surprisingly good advice, for live and online poker. Dont slowplay monsters like AA and KK and if you do, get ready to check-fold, online poker (lower stakes) is all about showdowns.
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Posted by Fakiry: With AA maths says you have 7 in 10 chances of winning. Perhaps you spent the three of the first attempt loosing and now you just lost another two times from the second attempt. In theory, theses means you will only loose one more time in the next 15 times you play with AA in hand Fulltilt. Seems really nice to me - here is a good motive to help you pass that tilt time (now this has value to that room, if you play AA in other rooms statistics become different ).
How many times does he win when there are 2 villains? or 3? It's not that black-and-white, or else you would be a winning player.
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AA is only a pair...its good startin off aginst anything but with only 2 main outs and lucky runner runers its not much of anything.....unless u get lucky on the flop turn and river i would never put my money on it...no problem goin allin with it aginst one other opp but 3-4-5 id think long and hard chances are the donk with 8-6 offsuit will taker
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Posted by mazas: so have u ever with AA in hand won deal on poker site full tilt ?
Aces win more than they lose for me... maybe 9:1 ratio... you can't expect aces to win ALL THE TIME... if my aces get cracked I just move on and don't really care much (thinking of times when I crack someone else's aces )
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i think 3 or 4 times the BB is not enough you have to raise 4 times the BB and 1 or 2 blinds for every limper.and maybe its best to put them alin right away.if your lucky you only get one caller with ak or other similar hand
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its happen again have in hand AA and one push all in he have about 15 k chips i just have 25 k and i call him he shows JJ and flop 6 Q 2 turn J river 9 and i again loose it so its the most loosing hand for me at this time in this 2010 year is AA i cant believe that i am so unlucky good luck all
