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this is just something i can never really decide what to do with it. Im talking about early position 6 handed. I know its not a great hand but i dont like just folding it as im not that tight and its not that bad of a hand. What i tend to do now is just limp and see what happens after me so if someone comes in with a weaker A well im not in a bad position and any raises i can decide what to do with only the cost of BB but this also lets some real crap hands to come in to so what do u do? i know all this depends on certain things but in genral
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Posted by shokaku: If you are unsure, just fold it in the first two positions. It is a trouble hand. And a trouble hand out of position can cost a lot of money.
In the later positions it is a raise.
i would say the same, but of course (as almost everything in poker) it depends on your opponents. if there are many callingstations i sometimes would only limp, especially when there are already some limpers.
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I play it a lot short handed, just do your standard raise, if it's only limp limp you can do a continuation bet on the flop, and on the flop you can see the strenght of your A10. If you completely have no outs or only a few you might consider to just check. If preflop there a big reraise and another caller behind the raiser you better fold it. Just raise with 2 or 3 blinds and look what happens. It can pay off, but always be carefull you don't waste any chips.
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It is a tricky one and I probly wouldn't follow my own advice but I'd say never limp in early position with A10. If you see a flop with no raise you can't be sure the 10 is any good cos you've allowed people to limp in and a big blind to enter. There's not many brilliant hands you can hit that will pay you off since no one raised. On the other hand you've got to fold pre-flop to any decent raise unless there's many callers or if there is a min raise. Now you have to be very careful on any flop with an ace. you're basically hoping for an action hand where you trap your opponent.
So I say either raise strong on a fairly tight table. Pick up some blinds or build a reputation. Be careful if you get called, fold to a raise. Or just fold and don't worry about missing an opportunity. Nothing lost, nothing gained.
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Hi Flippedchips.
I don´t play SH very often, but i think AT is a good hand to raise. The kind of the players in the table and a good HUD with hundreds hands of them can make this kind of decissions more easy.
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the reason i just limp with it is because if its a limped pot and i hit the A well im more confident of my A10 and will often get paid off by a weaker A, in a limped pot people will often play any A but if i raise and get a caller or 2 and hit the A im not sure where i am because there is a very good chance they have called a raise with a better A than mine. But i just thought i would see how u lot played it
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Posted by Flippedchips: the reason i just limp with it is because if its a limped pot and i hit the A well im more confident of my A10 and will often get paid off by a weaker A, in a limped pot people will often play any A but if i raise and get a caller or 2 and hit the A im not sure where i am because there is a very good chance they have called a raise with a better A than mine. But i just thought i would see how u lot played it
But then what do you do when the flop comes A 7 3 and your opponent raises. How can you possibly know if they have A5 or A3? If the big blind bets first they could have 7 3 or 7 J You don't have a clue. What if the flop is all low cards? Do you check it down and give them plenty of chances to hit an out or do you bluff and potentially get yourself into trouble?
I'm not attacking you but I'm trying to support my argument why limping is the last thing you should do. Imo you can raise or fold but not limp.
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Posted by awood88:
So I say either raise strong on a fairly tight table. Pick up some blinds or build a reputation. Be careful if you get called, fold to a raise. Or just fold and don't worry about missing an opportunity. Nothing lost, nothing gained.
I vote "fold", but their should be a 4th option: mix all 3, depending on the table and how your run is. I think I fold 70% of the time, limp or raise when my run is good.
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Posted by awood88:
Posted by Flippedchips: the reason i just limp with it is because if its a limped pot and i hit the A well im more confident of my A10 and will often get paid off by a weaker A, in a limped pot people will often play any A but if i raise and get a caller or 2 and hit the A im not sure where i am because there is a very good chance they have called a raise with a better A than mine. But i just thought i would see how u lot played it
But then what do you do when the flop comes A 7 3 and your opponent raises. How can you possibly know if they have A5 or A3? If the big blind bets first they could have 7 3 or 7 J You don't have a clue. What if the flop is all low cards? Do you check it down and give them plenty of chances to hit an out or do you bluff and potentially get yourself into trouble?
I'm not attacking you but I'm trying to support my argument why limping is the last thing you should do. Imo you can raise or fold but not limp.
well for a start im never checking anything down but in that case i will raise or check raise as the other guy flopping 2 pair dont happen all that much but and what about if u raise and the same flop comes well if the guy shows aggression well u prob are beat as he called a raise pre flop then do u check call or check raise ready to fold? or just fold. I know what u mean raise im not often in a pot if ive not raised but when i raise with A10 and get called i just dont know whre the hell i am. Dont get me wrong i will raise prob more than i limp with this hand but what im saying i dont like a call if i raise with it and if i limp im more confident when i hit with it and it also lets the weak As in and as u have limped they are more confident if the A comes. I know what u mean though am im not a fan of limping with anything
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Posted by Flippedchips: well for a start im never checking anything down but in that case i will raise or check raise as the other guy flopping 2 pair dont happen all that much but and what about if u raise and the same flop comes well if the guy shows aggression well u prob are beat as he called a raise pre flop then do u check call or check raise ready to fold? or just fold. I know what u mean raise im not often in a pot if ive not raised but when i raise with A10 and get called i just dont know whre the hell i am. Dont get me wrong i will raise prob more than i limp with this hand but what im saying i dont like a call if i raise with it and if i limp im more confident when i hit with it and it also lets the weak As in and as u have limped they are more confident if the A comes. I know what u mean though am im not a fan of limping with anything
Ok. I see your point. you're completely right of course about hitting an ace when you have a10 but if you raise with a10 you don't want to see an ace. You want flops like k 10 10 or k q j which i grant you are rare but then you're not looking for a showdown most of the time.
I play a10 like I play mid suited connectors and lots of other middle hands. I fold if I've just joined the table, if I know people are loose, I fold if there are calling stations, I fold if I've been playing too many hands. If I'm on a tightish short-handed table, if I can outplay people on the flop, if I'm playing rush, or if I ain't raised in a while I might raise in the hope of taking the blinds or building a rep. I fold to a re-raise but if I see a flop I like I'll make a continuation bet. The only reason I play these hands and not 5 2 or K 3 is you can actually hit something and have a good idea where you are with A10 and 9 8. But most of the time you're trying to steal with them.
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lol ur looking for a flop of KJQ lol ffs awood u dont want much do u I know what u mean and thanx to everyone for the replys i just thought i would see what u all thought and as i thought its split opinions
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Hello everybody! Wait a better hand and a better position. You may make you surelancer and be forced to throw your hand. Do not caspile your money with this hand. See you soon for new posts lol!
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A10 is not a hand you should limp with.
Limping in most situations is a complete fail anyways. Raise it fold to reraise, you will be OOP after the flop. On a loose table play it on a nitty table fold it. There is never one sure way to play a hand, rather play the situation or you will be
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Posted by shokaku: If you are unsure, just fold it in the first two positions. It is a trouble hand. And a trouble hand out of position can cost a lot of money.
In the later positions it is a raise.
This, although I'd probably be more inclined to limp than fold if unsure, if I'm playing deep stacked short-handed. If I'm playing short-stack short-hand and I get this from EP, if I'm unsure maybe then a fold. Depending on the table and my reads on them etc, I might raise here, if i think i can out-play them post-flop.. but this can be dicey. Def raise from LP facing no other raises.
but in that case i will raise or check raise as the other guy flopping 2 pair dont happen all that much but and what about if u raise and the same flop comes well if the guy shows aggression well u prob are beat as he called a raise pre flop then do u check call or check raise ready to fold? or just fold. I know what u mean raise im not often in a pot if ive not raised but when i raise with A10 and get called i just dont know whre the hell i am. Dont get me wrong i will raise prob more than i limp with this hand but what im saying i dont like a call if i raise with it and if i limp im more confident when i hit with it and it also lets the weak As in and as u have limped they are more confident if the A comes. I know what u mean though am im not a fan of limping with anything
I know what u mean and thanx to everyone for the replys i just thought i would see what u all thought and as i thought its split opinions
? And if you did won, did you raised or limped in 
