Joined: Mar '10
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
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i usually only play on fulltilt but i might have to try either stars or anyother big one because im getting soo sick of fulltilt rewarding the donkies. i know everyones going to say " thats poker'' but come on , how can i have AK raise on the button pretty big (dont like slowplaying anything on the button) and the guy UTG calls flop is AK2 i raise he pushes i call he has 2 5 offsuit!!!!!!! and catches another 2 on the river!! for like a 60$ pot. thennnnnn the guy calls me a fish!!!! i cnt take it anymore am i the only one that thinks the full tilt rewards " the donkey"" feel free to give examples of how u got it dry cause a donkey got rewarded
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 1331
Hi baxter01.
I understand you, but that is the kind of player we want. Think, how many times he are gonna beat you with this move? Put a note on the fish and win his money, he don´t get it for long time..
Joined: Feb '09
Location: Hungary
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 318
I play on FullTilt too. Similar hapenned to me. Not once, so many times... But I play sng's not cash game. So I loose only chips and not my real money.
Patience, my friend. I don't know why but, specially, Full Tilt has got a unofficial title of "the most rigged site". However, what i want to say is that i've lost hands like yours in each site i played so ... it's only poker. My worst experience was in PokerStars: Me A9 at SB, i raise 4xBB and BB call. Flop, A93rainbow, BB all-in and i, obviously, call. He showed K7. Turn: 7, River: 7.
Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 2087
i feel ur pain m8 its sick but its just bad players getting lucky, I know what u mean when they call u the donk they are lucky they are behind the computer. One time i had As raised 4x bb one caller 3 spades come i make a set i went all in to stop him chasing the flush he calls me with 69 off with the 6 of spades and makes the flush then he called me the donk. i will admit ive made some donkey plays and got rewarded but due to a bad read or i have just been playing really bad that day but i dont act like a prick after it i hate they people. What i do suggest stick to the big rooms orplay higher stakes but u still get these guys, the hand i was talking about was $2 cash game. I played a $30 27 seater sng last night and all the players were really good, the game was solid and i loved it no monkey plays geat game and to make it better i came 3rd all im saying is have faith and maybe move up the stakes
you wont have 10k hands all like that one. looking at one hand will not be indicative of your game in general. What bigfoot was saying was not that you needed to play that hand differently but that if you are losing in the long run then a change to your game may be needed.
Try picking up poker ofice, holdem manager or poker tracker. All have free trials. They have some nice features like showing how far away from your eV you are. (eV is expected value. In a ten dollar pot you are a 80% favorite when the money goes in. So your eV is $8. IF you win the hand you are +$2 from your eV, if you lose you are -$8 from your ev) If over 10,000 hands you end up being a huge amount under your eV then that would be indication that the cards are not falling as they should. And it has to be a large variance from the number. Because even 10k hands may be too small a sample.
For me that can be a solid week of play, which in the bigger picture isnt much
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
LMAO. If you think switching networks is gonna help you're in for a rude shock. EVERY NETWORK has people saying THIS NETWORK IS ALWAYS REWARDING DONKEYS. It's just that you're not a winning player. Until you start looking at the problem from this angle, you will NEVER be a winning player. Man up.
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
Posts: 696
yeah i now what u meaning but this kind of players bring u big money when u play good poker But maybe this can help i the past i´ve played on stars and ftp but now i favourite site´s with 3500-5000 pls online.The reason is i make notes on the pls and i find the players back in tourneys or cash games sometimes help it.On a great site with more then 10000 players thats not so easy to find players back and on small sites thats not so many entrys in tourneys.And after a while u know the pls.But u can donked out on every site equal thats a great or a small one
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Lithuania
Age: 33 (F)
Posts: 1180
Posted by baxter01: i usually only play on fulltilt but i might have to try either stars or anyother big one because im getting soo sick of fulltilt rewarding the donkies. i know everyones going to say " thats poker'' but come on , how can i have AK raise on the button pretty big (dont like slowplaying anything on the button) and the guy UTG calls flop is AK2 i raise he pushes i call he has 2 5 offsuit!!!!!!! and catches another 2 on the river!! for like a 60$ pot. thennnnnn the guy calls me a fish!!!! i cnt take it anymore am i the only one that thinks the full tilt rewards " the donkey"" feel free to give examples of how u got it dry cause a donkey got rewarded
Joined: May '08
Location: Sweden
Age: 55 (M)
Posts: 1362
Full Tilt is actually one of the few pokerrooms where I have not made a profit. This was a couple of years ago, and I was, back then (and probably am still), a total donkey.
So I can't agree with you on this one. One hundred (lost) bucks on 10NL says they do NOT reward the donkey.
Joined: Mar '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 49 (M)
Posts: 41
I've found the short stack rooms on FT are an absolute nightmare, albeit micro-stakes. Playing on 10c & 25c ring games, I switched to the larger stack rooms and instantly seen a difference in the amount of suckouts.
IMO if there's enough donks playing at the table. There's usually at least 1 willing to take a chance with a crap hand. The more chancers, the more chance of being sucked out on.
Joined: Dec '09
Location: Canada
Age: 62 (M)
Posts: 344
you cant say that it true that sometime donkey hit miracle river make you lose a big amount of money but you think that its always happening but it because you only remember the bad beat and not the pot that you win in this type of situation
I think donkeys ( like me, f.e. ) are the reason poker rooms can survive. So, if you are really a strong player, as I think you are, don't blame on software even if you're right, stay calm, play your best poker and next time you will have your money back
all im saying is have faith and maybe move up the stakes
