you raised a reraiser bad idea unless you have aces that should of got the alarm bells ringing, should of just called in stead of raising them again, but then again you might of got busterd if you slow played no ace on the flop or flush either you push or they were gonna................ easy push with top pair ..........(pocket rockets)
takes a top player to fold that hand if they slowed played it (just calling there raise), after the flop thinking that they have aces(you should be thinking why have they raise a raiser??
then you thinking they have aces then that makes you a top player..............
to be honest i would of just push just like you only a freeroll...........
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Well Played. No way u can fold ur KK after his reraise (if u do then find another game, poker isnt the one for u then). Anyway Well Played just unlucky.
Posted by doomdy: Well Played. No way u can fold ur KK after his reraise (if u do then find another game, poker isnt the one for u then). Anyway Well Played just unlucky.
well it was only $80 more to call his raise so no you can not fold , but to reraise him might of been a mistake only saying this cause he lost the hand
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I would have folded pre-flop knowing that he held AA. No matter how you play this hand here your going to lose (unless the lucky K hits, or the board splits for you), no way of getting away from it....unless your me
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just kk must play allways but if u saw at the table A u must know that some who cal u must have a at the hand and if he goes till the end u must fold it
just must push all in till the flop and hope for luck or easy fold after flop if a was here
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Posted by dozn01:
Posted by doomdy: Well Played. No way u can fold ur KK after his reraise (if u do then find another game, poker isnt the one for u then). Anyway Well Played just unlucky.
well it was only $80 more to call his raise so no you can not fold , but to reraise him might of been a mistake only saying this cause he lost the hand
Reraise a mistake? So u want to flatcall his reraise with the stack he has? Argh Dozny cmon U played so many DoNs u must know how it workes Please dont say u consider to flatcall this 1
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it was a ftpa freeroll, if u keep folding hands like KK in that i would be amazed if you win in that. only way i could have folded tht hand was if i knw opponent had aa. u just got unlucky. better luck next time
Posted by doomdy: Well Played. No way u can fold ur KK after his reraise (if u do then find another game, poker isnt the one for u then). Anyway Well Played just unlucky.
well it was only $80 more to call his raise so no you can not fold , but to reraise him might of been a mistake only saying this cause he lost the hand
Reraise a mistake? So u want to flatcall his reraise with the stack he has? Argh Dozny cmon U played so many DoNs u must know how it workes Please dont say u consider to flatcall this 1
the reraise was a mistake........... cause, he lost the hand he wants to know another way to play the hand, could he have slow played? well the hint in this that he had aces or ace slick or even another big pair is that he reraise you, so i would of stilled called, not gone all in yet, (slow played) hope to hit a king on the flop, but it missed came 7 9 J i would of at this point be thinking, hope hes got ace king etc and missed.................... but it doesnt matter how you play this hand you couldnt get away from it, cause i would of gone all in after the flop, even if i checked the flop he would of bet im pot commited so i call,
i lose ..............either way you play this hand you lose, just bad luck
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So wot u do when an ace turns up the flop after u flatcalled preflop? U simply giv up and fold and that will leave u crippled with 500 chips? Its about EV+ play, ur crippled, so please thank god u get kings, get ur chips in as fast as possible and smile. That opponent has aces is totally not the point. Point is allways play EV+ and ur make money in poker, play scared and ur losing money or ur winnigs aren't optimal. Poker isnot so difficult.
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I partly agree with dozn01. With aces the mission is always to try and go all-in preflop but KK is dangerous against aggressive raisers. Unless the other person has acted like a nut in previous hands I'd prefer to play a flop especially as I have position.
The problem is that the op was comparatively short-stack and calling the re-raise leaves him with nowhere near enough chips to play like that. The other thing is, this is a tourney so survival is the issue. In cash games you can afford to take more chance with the Ks and come up against AQ or 99 knowing the odds are with you but in a tourney sometimes it's better to wait and be safe.
I notice a few funny things about this hand history though. First of all the raises are not raises. When it says repanda raises 570 it's not right. He puts another 570 chips in but the raise is only 450 since federriko has put 240 chips in, his re-raise was a lot less than this history makes it look. And why are all the raises in US$ when it clearly says freeroll tourney. I thought this was a cash game at first glance and it made me think WTF. This guy is asking for help playing blinds of 40$
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Posted by doomdy:
Posted by B1gfoot: I would have folded pre-flop knowing that he held AA.
You can never know he hold AA But... Please dont say u consider to fold this KK preflop? I hope u make a joke, right?
NO no, was not suggesting id fold, with that stack id be all in b4 the re-raise. You could call and fold on a A on board leving with 500 as the blinds are 20/40, still time to get back in the game..not what id be doing, im all in pre.
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Its funny so many people afraid of aces when they got reraised preflop, in this example the big stack reraise cud be anytin and yes also aces, if I was this big stack I wud reraise AK, suited big connectors and any pair even low pairs. If anybody wud just play their cards its very difficult to make profit don't u think? U have to put presure on ur oponents and make them fold, use fold equidity to make them fold. Don't be flat caller that's so weak poker, be the agrresor, it brings u more money for sure.
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For all people who even consider flatcall here: You have to realize with given stacks this is a no brainer allin after you get reraised, just standard play, raise-reraise-boom allin, just standard play, with these stacks flatcall is just really bad play. Even QQ/AK is for me a no brainer with given stacks.
Sry, maybe I am a littl rude, but please never ever flat call in this situation, its so bad and the weakest thing u can do.
U played so many DoNs u must know how it workes 
