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Joined: Feb '10
Location: Finland
Age: 38 (M)
Posts: 1248
Hey guys,
Thought Id share this with you.
Remember I told few months ago that I made a huge jump in one new poker site and went from 2$ for more than 2000$ with just a month. Anyways I doubled this amount with another month by playing 50 & 100nl tables there. Then I made a withdrawal for 1,500$ and anotherone week later for 700$ and let less than half the money to the site to keep on playing there. They promise 48 hour cashouts, fine, but days and weeks went by and I started to get suspicious. Searched the net and found it was Casineto network, witch is known as quite big scam site from Hungary (with googleing it, there comes loads of sh*t about it, how hundreds of players wait their money for months and years). Then I wrote few serious letters back and forth with the support and they told me its all good and the money will arrive, but they are not quite sure when lol.
Anyways now its been more than 3 months and I buried the thought of seeing the money long time ago already and quit playing the site also. But for my surprise today, when I logged in my mail I found they have made the transfers to my mb account .
Now I cant take a statement wether to withdraw the rest of the money I have there or start playing again there , as the traffic is low, but its full of ritch fishes
edit: no point to take out most money and keep on playing lower stakes, as its waste of time there, as traffic is bout 400 players online every day and big fishes move around big stakes.
Joined: Dec '09
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 42 (M)
Posts: 2087
i remember u talking about this site did not know the the stress u have been through with it all the same but ive not been on much the last few month. anyway u should of put a mmm dont have a clue option as i see ur point for staying but but it is a bit shady u had gave ur money a wave good bye. Think the best option is prob to just leave it but then again the money u have there just now is kinda freee money if u know what i mean to make more as u have already took out way more than u put in, maybe if u take out the rest u wont get it mmmm dont know its up to u but dont like the sound of the wait but i suppose as long as u get it. its up to u but sure if u stay there u will continue to rape the fish
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
Posts: 6483
I think continue to play, but make regular withdrawals of smaller amounts (but more often). IMO the smaller withdrawals more likely to go through. You dont wanna miss the action if it's as good as you say. But you don't wanna build a massive roll either just to get stiffed on it anyway.
I reckon try and keep the roll around $2k and just take out a couple hunge at a time.
i think its too much of a wait for you to get your money plus there are many reviews (comments) that its a bad site to cash out on, but the players are fish easy money, its really a gamble for a lot of money ,winning a couple of thousand waiting 3 month maybe more ............
if you can wait that long for your money, stay...... but i would not... do you really trust this site? just answer this question why do you think that there is no much traffic? this might prove its not really a site to trust, maybe they wernt gonna pay you out.., then changed there minds 3 months later thinking that you can trust them, cause they give you your money, so that you keep playing there then when you wanna cash out over 10k , (you will get there if the player are that easy in space of 4 month maybe less) then thats when the problems start you wont get your money, or might even wait for over a year to get it,
another reason why you have to wait so long for your money cashout is that the site is just so facking s**t you have to wait for them to earn the money back through rake to pay you, they have to pay the web designer ,the owner , gas ,electric, bank manager( loan they took up to run the site) tea boy, cleaner, etc.......... and theres you at the bottom of there list to pay, some other customers has been wait for over 1 year i bet
Joined: Oct '09
Location: Spain
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Posted by jessthehuman: I think continue to play, but make regular withdrawals of smaller amounts (but more often). IMO the smaller withdrawals more likely to go through. You dont wanna miss the action if it's as good as you say. But you don't wanna build a massive roll either just to get stiffed on it anyway.
I reckon try and keep the roll around $2k and just take out a couple hunge at a time.
I think the best option by far is to do what jess just suggested. It´s simple:
You play some more, and/or try to cash out a small amount now that your first cashout is a fact. After first approval, cashouts should be faster.
IF you do get the money in a reasonable amount of time, I would say it´s safe to keep playing there and do as jess says, just cash out regularly. IF that´s not the case, and you have to wait another few months for even a small cashout, I think you have your answer.... ie. you´ll be risking a lot of time versus total loss of your gains.
Just do the test, cashout some small amounts and see what happens.
Oh, and Kristan, I can´t remember which site it was, it was a while ago. Can you say which one it was?
Joined: May '09
Location: Estonia
Age: 35 (M)
Posts: 777
Posted by jessthehuman: I think continue to play, but make regular withdrawals of smaller amounts (but more often). IMO the smaller withdrawals more likely to go through. You dont wanna miss the action if it's as good as you say. But you don't wanna build a massive roll either just to get stiffed on it anyway.
I reckon try and keep the roll around $2k and just take out a couple hunge at a time.
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Finland
Age: 38 (M)
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Thanks for your advice guys, much appreciate !
I was thinking the same thing myself, I will keep the money round 2k there and cash out smaller amounts of 2-300$ portions, that incase I still win lol.
Jess - thanks, Ill take your advice .
Jack - its Flanderspoker (belongs to famous hungary fraud company casineto network lol), and my username there is Recoil.
Magatt - Ive made decent profit in pkr.com also, playing tourneys and nowadays mostly omaha pl 6 handed cashgames in 50 and 100nl tables. Cant play tourneys anymore because when Ive got a little babigirl at home who needs desperately some attention all the time. So I focus on her rather than play tourneys .
Chaosman - its flanderspoker.com
If someone is going to try their luck there, let me know also
Joined: Mar '10
Location: Greece
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Posted by Kristan: Cant play tourneys anymore because when Ive got a little babigirl at home who needs desperately some attention all the time. So I focus on her rather than play tourneys .
You're on the right track about this one Kris, tournaments can surely wait... Baby daughters always come first, quads and flushes come close second along with nostalgic Beverly Hills 90210-Donna-finally-graduates reruns that no one wants to miss...
Joined: May '08
Location: Germany
Age: 51 (M)
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cashout the money and play on a good site.I´ve played on a casino site and had make a few cashout betweeen 200-500$.But the last cashout from 300$ they didn´t pay write a lot of emails to the support but they didn´t response and i was a member for 2 years there and remember pitbull poker had there a few cashouts and all fine.At the site was down i was lucky lost only 50$. So i vote play on a regular site where u money is safe
Joined: Jan '09
Location: Italy
Age: 53 (M)
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Cant play tourneys anymore because when Ive got a little babigirl at home who needs desperately some attention all the time. So I focus on her rather than play tourneys .
Joined: Feb '10
Location: Finland
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Posted by ILI_002:
Posted by Kristan: Cant play tourneys anymore because when Ive got a little babigirl at home who needs desperately some attention all the time. So I focus on her rather than play tourneys .
You're on the right track about this one Kris, tournaments can surely wait... Baby daughters always come first, quads and flushes come close second along with nostalgic Beverly Hills 90210-Donna-finally-graduates reruns that no one wants to miss...
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ILI - I agree with you . Not sure about the Beverly hills 90210 Donna finally graduates part lol.
Joined: May '08
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Keep playing there if the opposition is that weak. But try to keep you roll as small as possible for the stakes you are playing. If up a few hundred, cash out the extra money.
Joined: Feb '10
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Posted by Almonds: Whats the name of the site?
Flanderspoker. Ive said it plenty of times here.
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Posted by shokaku: Keep playing there if the opposition is that weak. But try to keep you roll as small as possible for the stakes you are playing. If up a few hundred, cash out the extra money.
I thought the same thing yes. Would be reasonable.
edit: btw, most of the guys I know who are profitable players on that site, recieved also their big stack cashouts
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Posted by dozn01: another reason why you have to wait so long for your money cashout is that the site is just so facking s**t you have to wait for them to earn the money back through rake to pay you, they have to pay the web designer ,the owner , gas ,electric, bank manager( loan they took up to run the site) tea boy, cleaner, etc.......... and theres you at the bottom of there list to pay
Im sure Ive made them decent load of rakeback already, because my affiliate told me I made the most rake of his players. Btw - to set up a small poker site costs about 2000-10 000$. And you dont have to pay to anyone. You just buy the skin, pay the network you use and theres your poker site. Ive got some friends who are thinking about to buy and run some sites so Ive put a little behind the ears lol. I do know flanderspoker cost 2000$ to set up, atleast the owner said so .
Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 40 (M)
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this thread reminds me a lot about some peoples experience with pitbull poker. It often ran at incredibly small amounts of traffic, sometimes in the mere double figures lol. Cashouts were often troublesome/slow.
However, a very fishy site and there was some people that were crushed when pitbull closed, because despite it's dodgyness and slow-cashouts, there was some people making some extremely nice profits on that site and were happy to wait for their cash etc because they found the competition that soft that it was worth it.
And I'm sure this story extends to a lot of other smaller rooms with <1,000 in traffic at peak times.
I would cash out nearly everything. Leave $50 to keep playing there if u like it so much, but if u have to wait more than 7 days, than it kinda looks dodgy.
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, as the traffic is low, but its full of ritch fishes 
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