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HI I AM N0T SAYING 0N LINE P0KER IS RIGGED. BUT WHEN I PLAY AT FULL TILT EVERY SINGLE HAND S0ME0NE AS S0METHING 0N THE FL0P LIKE 2 PAIR, AND THE 0THER GUY AS A 0VER PAIR THEN B0TH G0 ALL IN AND THE THE B0ARD PAIRS AND THE GUY WINS WITH A HIGHER PAIR. THE FLUSH C0MES LIKE 50 PER CENT 0F THE TIME IN A ALL IN SITUATI0N. MY LAST GAME AT A 3 HANDED CASH GAME WAS
ME AQ FL0P 10 J K TURN J RIVER 2. PLAYER A HAD AQ PLAYER B 10 10
tHE 0DDS 0F THIS IS HUGE AND IT HAPPENS LIKE EVRY 20 HANDS , IT GIVES U UN PLAYABLE HANDS IN AN ALL IN SITUATI0N. I WAS MULTI TABLING SIX SNG AT THE SAME TIME AND 0N 4 TABLES I HAD AA AT THE SAME TIME AND THIS WAS AT THE START 0F THE GAME 0N A 9 MAX TABLE AND EVERY SINGLE 0NE 0F THEM S0ME0NE WENT ALL IN PRE AND 9I HAD T0 CALL. AND SUPRISE SUPRISE L0ST T0 A6 33 78 10 J. ITS LIKE I WIN SAY 3 SNG IN A R0W THEN THE NEXT SAY 6 I JUST GET FECKED 0VER N0 MATTER WHAT I HAVE. THE BULL AB0UT U PLAYED THE HAND WR0NG IS S**TE CAUSE ALL IN PRE WITH AA THEY 0NLY 0NE WAY T0 PLAY THEM T0 A ALLL IN. i KN0W PE0PLE SAY 0NLY G00D PLAYERS GET BAD BEATS AND STUFF, BUY ITS GETTING BEH0ND THE J0KE. 0N I P0KER I CAN WIN LIKE 6 0R 7 HEADS UP IN A R0W EASILY. MY REC0RD IS 27 S0 I KN0W WAT I TALKING AB0UT ITS JUST LIKE FULL TILT IS LIKE SPREDING THE WINNINGS 0UT S0 THAT EVRY 0NE STAYS IN THE GAME L0NGER AND M0RE RAKE IS PAID.d0ES ANY 0NE ELSE N0TICE THIS S**T 0R D0 THEY 0NLY D0 IT T0 WINNING PLAYERS . I KN0W AB0UT 0DDS WHEN UI A 80 PER CENT CHANCE 0F WINNING AND L0SE 50 PER CENT 0F TIME IT D0NT ADD UP
Edited by stottty1982 (12 August 2010 @ 16:55 GMT)
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it n0t bad play it set up hands. like aa vs kk vs qq. d0nt get me wr0ng they is a l0t 0f retaded p0ple playing at l0w stakes but they get rewarded time and time again. If u are sat at a table with 3 retards they all call with s**t and hit. when i get aa and s0me 0ne raises all in i have t0 call but i just kn0w i g0na get screwed
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Hi,I have same feeling but I think we are wrong because we think that AK AA or something like that always must be winning hand,that is poker and everything is possible
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I totally agree with you.Same s**t happened to me there again and again But that's OK cos I deleted it from the comp and never gonna deposit to them again.I don't know maybe we are wrong but what happens there is way too much for me.
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Posted by stottty1982: I KN0W AB0UT 0DDS WHEN UI A 80 PER CENT CHANCE 0F WINNING AND L0SE 50 PER CENT 0F TIME IT D0NT ADD UP
when you are 80/20 % winning then you will LOSE 20% of times - does not add up? lmao, I dont wnt to be rude but u fukhmking pinheads should stop whining about full tilt and that its rigged.
Big field, huge variance. I suggest to use eg. Poker Edge or some other hold em calculator on bigger sites, so you can choose yourself weak or strong tables, whatever you like.
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Posted by godlike666: Caps lock really makes me a believer!
Yes! I feel exactly the same way! It makes me feel (before I have even read the text, and especially if it is about "rigged internet poker" ), that who ever wrote it, has like a 98% chance to be a retard.
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Posted by Pjot:
Posted by godlike666: Caps lock really makes me a believer!
Yes! I feel exactly the same way! It makes me feel (before I have even read the text, and especially if it is about "rigged internet poker" ), that who ever wrote it, has like a 98% chance to be a retard.
Whats that? Like, one out on the river?
LOL - +1 for the irony init. Both posts made me laugh haha. Goodone
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Posted by Kristan:
Posted by Pjot:
Posted by godlike666: Caps lock really makes me a believer!
Yes! I feel exactly the same way! It makes me feel (before I have even read the text, and especially if it is about "rigged internet poker" ), that who ever wrote it, has like a 98% chance to be a retard.
Whats that? Like, one out on the river?
LOL - +1 for the irony init. Both posts made me laugh haha. Goodone
Mehhh, sorry but i think you haven't properly grasped what exactly variance is and how it can affect downswings, upswings etc. You should try getting Pokerstove, and after every "badbeat" enter your hole cards vs oppenents on every street, including preflop and you'll see that most "badbeats" are nothing more than expected statistical probabilty and aren't really badbeats at all.
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N0 0ffence but half u retards pr0bably cant even aff0rd a bankr0l t0 play. I d0 n0t use p0ker tracker and s**t like that cause i am skillfull en0ugth and d0nt need t0 cheat. If u knew ab0ut maths and u are saying that its variancce u r stupid. The s0ftware is made s0 that every 0ne wins eqully. The 0nly way i l0se is by suck0uts cause i always c0mmit with the best hands and that means i suffer beats all time 0ther wise all the g00d players w0uld win and d0nks like y-ur self w0uld n0t paly n0 m0re. I play 1/2 6 max tables and s0me p0ts are like $300 i fl0p the nuts and then l0se. The res0n u pr0bably d0nt get as many beats is cause u r the d0nkeys wat suck 0ut and are the 0nes wh0 get the beats
------------ N0 0ffence but half u retards pr0bably cant even aff0rd a bankr0l t0 play. I d0 n0t use p0ker tracker and s**t like that cause i am skillfull en0ugth and d0nt need t0 cheat. If u knew ab0ut maths and u are saying that its variancce u r stupid. The s0ftware is made s0 that every 0ne wins eqully. The 0nly way i l0se is by suck0uts cause i always c0mmit with the best hands and that means i suffer beats all time 0ther wise all the g00d players w0uld win and d0nks like y-ur self w0uld n0t paly n0 m0re. I play 1/2 6 max tables and s0me p0ts are like $300 i fl0p the nuts and then l0se. The res0n u pr0bably d0nt get as many beats is cause u r the d0nkeys wat suck 0ut and are the 0nes wh0 get the beats
------------ bigfeilds 0l. u are the retard if i 0n a table with 6 pe0ple and every 0ne hits the fl0p nearly every hand u telling me this is rand0m. i have had 7 r0yal flushes in 2 m0nths and 55 quads fr0m 10000k hands .u d0 n0t need t0 be a maths expert t0 kn0w these are n0t c0rrect 0dds. and this game they call p0ker is n0thing but a j0ke. The s0ftware is pr0grammed t0 let d0nkis win. If u kn0w h0w they rng w0rked u w0uld understand but u d0nt and u pr0bably never will cause u a muppet. I have a r0ll 0f 12k 0n stars and i have 1k 0n full tilt, which was 3k but they w0nt let me win n0 m0re cause i with drew1k n0 m0re.What stakes d0 u play micr01/2 cents and the $2 games where pe0ple are retrded s0 u beat a few s0 u think u kn0w h0w t0 play.
Edited by stottty1982 (13 August 2010 @ 11:48 GMT)
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I've played on fulltilt a while and I've never had the impression that it's rigged or set up for donks. Don't get me wrong I've had unbelievable bad beats and lots of downswings but I've had even more on partypoker.
This is just my opinion stotty and I'm not attacking you but I find it hard to believe that any site as big as fulltilt would intentionally create unfair software. It's not in their interest given the high profits they can make anyway. If they got caught they'd have too much to lose.
If you don't want to play there that's fine. At the end of the day you should only play at sites you trust. I hope you have a better experience wherever you're playing now.
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Thats my p0int the s0ftware is created s0 that every 0ne wins the equal amm0unt 0f hands 0ver a time.I n0t saying the s0ftware is rigged t0 fav0ur the h0use i saying that it is pr0gramed s0 every 0ne wins they share 0f hands n0 matter h0w bad they play.If i have aa and s0me 0n as a rag i expect t0 win at least 80 per cent 0f time. I f0und the 0nly way u can win is if u sl0w play and wait till u at least get t0 the river b4 c0mit y0ur chips cause them 1 t0 3 0uters c0me all the time. I play 10 tables at time usually and a l0t 0f time i will have say the same hand 0n 5 0f the tables and they all hget screwed 0ther in m0re 0r less the same way. I sharksc0pe every 0ne i play and never d0 i see any l0ng term winners. 95 per 0f player have actually paid m0re rake than they have w0n. Just sh0ws that its 0ne big cycle. I think thats it f0r cash f0r me, i g0nna g0 back t0 sng and heads up cause the beats are n0 way as bad . I jsut think they is 2 many d0nks, beats p-lus rake t0 win regular at cash, and then u have g00d players as well. add every thing t0gether and the pr0fits are very l0w . I will give full tilt 0nce last try cause its the best site apart fr0m the beats. If that fails i will have t0 g0 back t0 i p0ker which i hate graphics and player wise but i can win all the time they but they aint that many players and they all sh0rt stackers, and all in d0nks
------------ Thats my p0int the s0ftware is created s0 that every 0ne wins the equal amm0unt 0f hands 0ver a time.I n0t saying the s0ftware is rigged t0 fav0ur the h0use i saying that it is pr0gramed s0 every 0ne wins they share 0f hands n0 matter h0w bad they play.If i have aa and s0me 0n as a rag i expect t0 win at least 80 per cent 0f time. I f0und the 0nly way u can win is if u sl0w play and wait till u at least get t0 the river b4 c0mit y0ur chips cause them 1 t0 3 0uters c0me all the time. I play 10 tables at time usually and a l0t 0f time i will have say the same hand 0n 5 0f the tables and they all hget screwed 0ther in m0re 0r less the same way. I sharksc0pe every 0ne i play and never d0 i see any l0ng term winners. 95 per 0f player have actually paid m0re rake than they have w0n. Just sh0ws that its 0ne big cycle. I think thats it f0r cash f0r me, i g0nna g0 back t0 sng and heads up cause the beats are n0 way as bad . I jsut think they is 2 many d0nks, beats p-lus rake t0 win regular at cash, and then u have g00d players as well. add every thing t0gether and the pr0fits are very l0w . I will give full tilt 0nce last try cause its the best site apart fr0m the beats. If that fails i will have t0 g0 back t0 i p0ker which i hate graphics and player wise but i can win all the time they but they aint that many players and they all sh0rt stackers, and all in d0nks
My opinion of Fulltilt is that the site is set up for loose play and to reward lose play. I have given up playing at this site due to tournament set ups. Say its $5.50 entry with $20,000 or any tournament for that matter under a $20 entry, almost 3 players go all in on first hand no matter what they have! I did this with AA to call two players who already went in, one had 2-2 the other had 9-2 suited, thought i was a sure thing, trip 2's beat me on the river, same happened with kings in a freeroll, except trip 9's took me on the river.
Cash games, no matter what a player has on say $.50 $.25 stakes, he raises to $4, good when you have a hand, but when you have Q 10 or K 9 you want to see the flop! Almost impossible to make money unless you have a pair before the flop! Annoys me, seems everest is the same, stars is good on the other hand
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Posted by stottty1982: The res0n u pr0bably d0nt get as many beats is cause u r the d0nkeys wat suck 0ut and are the 0nes wh0 get the beats
The reason why "we" probably wont get as many beats is MAYBE WE DONT PAY AS MUCH HANDS AS YOU DO? Reasonalbe? ------------
N0 0ffence but half u retards pr0bably cant even aff0rd a bankr0l t0 play. I d0 n0t use p0ker tracker and s**t like that cause i am skillfull en0ugth and d0nt need t0 cheat. If u knew ab0ut maths and u are saying that its variancce u r stupid.
Im well sure half of us "retards" can afford a good bankroll to play. And ur the one whining that you have lose players in your tables. THEN USE A TRACKER AND PICK A SHARK STRONG TABLE -this is what trackers let you do -they find weak and strong tables. ------------
What stakes d0 u play micr01/2 cents and the $2 games where pe0ple are retrded s0 u beat a few s0 u think u kn0w h0w t0 play.
I myself play 50 & 100plo/nl he, depends from pokersite. Im sure you can find laods of screenshots posted by me from this forum if you search.
I really dont get your problem. You withdraw 1k so no they make you lose? LOL . Poor you, then it must be rigged yes, because whole fulltilt goes around you right.
when you are 80/20 % winning then you will LOSE 20% of times - does not add up? lmao, I dont wnt to be rude but u fukhmking pinheads should stop whining about full tilt and that its rigged.
. Poor you, then it must be rigged yes, because whole fulltilt goes around you right. 
