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I suppose for a really experienced player, who smells the opposing set folding a good starting hand like AA is no big deal. Have you guys done that often? Already after flop?
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I enjoy reading this, tests my reading skills a little ;p Also, yeah, folded AA after sick flops and large reraises. When to hold em when to fold em blah blah. Still mighty horrible...and hard.
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post flop? plenty of times. It's only a pair and there's some boards where you're either obviously beat or that you're not ahead nearly enough of the time to justify making the big calls.
Pre-flop.. yes, a couple of times in satellites where I already had a monster stack and it was bubble to the prizes and there was absolutely no reason to call any hands at all.
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pre flop never I think,just cant fold AA !but after flop,just cant remember of that situation!who know,maybe I did,but hard to fold!maybe if see that he can have straight!
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Postflop a lot of times.
I was nearly doing it the day before yesterday, with three callers pre, 5510 flop, I raise, two folds, one reraises me. I call. He raised the turn pretty much, I thought about it, and stood my ground. Hadn't it been for all those callers pre, I would have thought he had like QQ, JJ or something, but now it started feeling like a possible 1010, or some strange A5s. Well the river came, I checked, and, having postition on me, he also checked, and I knew I had the best hand. Afterwards I realised I should have threw in a few bucks there on the river, since, if he had a better hand, he would have gone all in, and I would have been potcommited, and with an inferiour hand, having bet that much already, he would have called it.
Well, turned out it was a semiretard with J10. I had totally represented an overpair.
Preflop I have never folded them. But I know, in the right (wrong) situation, I could.
Edit: When reading through this, I realise it may have been too cautious. I don't know. But it felt weird, and I was pretty tired at the moment.
It's a common situation folding AA after certain flops: all suited, straights, ... Sometimes it's difficult to fold a pair, not only AA. I've seen players calling monster bets with 22 or 55 and 3 overcards. Otherwise they fold with middle pair ... I don't understand anything. By the way ... AAo means "aces offsuited"? In fact, it would be funny to catch AA suited!
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Posted by Mobbari: I suppose for a really experienced player, who smells the opposing set folding a good starting hand like AA is no big deal. Have you guys done that often? Already after flop?
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Against one other player I will not usually fold AA. Sometimes the aggressive reraise from the other player is JJ thinking you have AK and missed. Sometimes you will get your own set on turn or river. But multi-way be extremely careful obviously. One time in live play I raised 6xBB on the button, six players called (!) and JJ was on the board. One player bet out and the other re-reaised, so I folded. Both had J. Oh well.
WTF!! What was the board? AAKQJT suited?? If it's difficult to fold AA, I don't want to imagine what could it be folding AAAA!!! My god! I'd rather prefer to lose the pot instead of thinking all my life if he was bluffing or not!!
When I was opening this thread I thought it is about the folding AA preflop - this could be a question - for example in some DoN, or in really hard position on buble.
But after flop? It is not easy two fold American Airlines but youshould learn it
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Was just knocked out of a limit tourney. I was holding AA, flop comes A(s) 8(c) 10(c). Raise, guys reraise, I reraise. Turn comes Q, I go all-in, they call. River comes 5, one guy raises the other calls. Raiser is holding KJ and wins with straight 10 to Ace. Now, would you fold ACES?
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Posted by AbuDhabi: When I was opening this thread I thought it is about the folding AA preflop - this could be a question - for example in some DoN, or in really hard position on buble.
But after flop? It is not easy two fold American Airlines but youshould learn it
Well said. A thread regarding when it's appropriate (Generally due to ICM in a SNG/MTT - never in cash) to fold AA pre-flop would be interesting..
If you can't fold AA post - you're just a donk and need to learn a bit more about the game.
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like todays lost with AA againts K 5!needed chips,was on BB,he rasied me,I must push all in ofcourse and didnt have luck!if I fold that,on what will pay
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Posted by DaMessiah666:
Posted by B1gfoot: And I did once fold AAAA
WTF!! What was the board? AAKQJT suited?? If it's difficult to fold AA, I don't want to imagine what could it be folding AAAA!!! My god! I'd rather prefer to lose the pot instead of thinking all my life if he was bluffing or not!!
I guess it was an omaha starting hand....isn't it b1g? if not I couldn't have folded it even with a gun at my head (as I am so donk I can't fold aces even if I understand I'm going to lose)
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Posted by magatt966:
Posted by DaMessiah666:
Posted by B1gfoot: And I did once fold AAAA
WTF!! What was the board? AAKQJT suited?? If it's difficult to fold AA, I don't want to imagine what could it be folding AAAA!!! My god! I'd rather prefer to lose the pot instead of thinking all my life if he was bluffing or not!!
I guess it was an omaha starting hand....isn't it b1g? if not I couldn't have folded it even with a gun at my head (as I am so donk I can't fold aces even if I understand I'm going to lose)
!but after flop,just cant remember of that situation!who know,maybe I did,but hard to fold!maybe if see that he can have straight!
When you got 5 players AI AA becomes weak.
