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Well, what can you do? AJ beats AQ with money in after trun, J hits river. QQ against J7 all-in pre-flop, flop hits J, turn J, river 7. AJ against A10, the 10 hits. I give up. There is no way this happens this often in live poker.
I hear all those "that's poker" comments, but it just plain doesn't happen that often in live games. One would think that these online sites would want their %'s to be at least close, but they aren't.
I for one will never deposit my own money on these sites, and would have to seriously debate endorsing any of them If the oppertunity presented itself. That would only happen to get paid from them.
GL all. Yota
Edited by yotalover (24 February 2011 @ 20:11 GMT)
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sad to say bro. pretty standard bad beats....if you think this doesn't happen often in live poker,seems to me you haven't been playing live poker that much.
i just played live a few hours ago. my last hand was A10. i hit the A on the turn giving me top pair. river comes 7.he hit his gutshot straight draw.he was holding 8/5..board has 6 9 k A 7....
you know the funny part,i was holding the exact same 8/5 hand, hitting the exact same draw with the same 7 hitting on the river just one hand earlier versus the same guy...and his hand was better than my A10...the flop when i beat him was 6 9 A A 7...he slow played his trips..he was holding AJ..imagine the outrage if this happened online
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Posted by flexibleeric: sad to say bro. pretty standard bad beats....if you think this doesn't happen often in live poker,seems to me you haven't been playing live poker that much.
i just played live a few hours ago. my last hand was A10. i hit the A on the turn giving me top pair. river comes 7.he hit his gutshot straight draw.he was holding 8/5..board has 6 9 k A 7....
you know the funny part,i was holding the exact same 8/5 hand, hitting the exact same draw with the same 7 hitting on the river just one hand earlier versus the same guy...and his hand was better than my A10...the flop when i beat him was 6 9 A A 7...he slow played his trips..he was holding AJ..imagine the outrage if this happened online
but it does happen.what can you do?
I play a lot of live poker, and all I'm saying is the %'s are way off. There's no way a 7% chance of hitting a 3 outer on the river hits live as often as it hits online. I realize this is just a "steam blowing off" post, but the fact remains the same. The %'s on these online sites aren't even close.
You mention playing live poker with A 10 or AJ against 85. What kind of level are you playing? No limit, Limit? If you're playing at a casino and playing those hands, you should expect to lose quite often. Most people playing live poker for decent money don't play, or don't make it to the river, with these type of hands.
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Posted by yotalover: I play a lot of live poker, and all I'm saying is the %'s are way off......but the fact remains the same. The %'s on these online sites aren't even close.
You mention playing live poker with A 10 or AJ against 85. What kind of level are you playing? No limit, Limit? If you're playing at a casino and playing those hands, you should expect to lose quite often. Most people playing live poker for decent money don't play, or don't make it to the river, with these type of hands.
Just saying.
i gave that example just to show you that whether its online or live, crazy things happen....i think that last two hands of mine is crazier than yours. imagine both of us held the same hand..both of us bluff with 8/5 (we both raised that to steal)...we had almost the same flop..we both slow played the ace.we both got the straight on the river..unlucky for me he has way more chips than i do. so when he sucked out, i was done for.but it's cool...instant karma i guess
i even posted on one of the threads here seeing three straight hands of pocket aces dealt to the same person live...with him winning all..with the last one being the sickest..his AA beating AA as well..he made a one card flush...that really happened and again, i could only imagine what people would say about the percentages if that happened online...but these things happen.
and playing with junk hands,it depends on who you're playing against...the poker room i play in manila is notorious for its very aggresive players. so waiting for those big hands will get you nowhere.trust me.so really have to play poker around here. you got to find a way to make junk hands win or you're just gonna get eaten by the blinds slowly while you watch other players stack their chips.
anyway, better luck at the tables man..hopefully fewer bad beats for you
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Just beat the donk in FT freeroll. Donk is all in with Q9 I have KK, flop 7K9, t-K and r-2. Just had to post somewhere! Rarely beat the donks, flop always leans their way, plus can't remember last time I hit 4 K's. Hope this ids an okay post. Love you BRM players. Learned a lot from reading your threads / BRM poker startegies. Best site ever! No joke!
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no for real full tilt has the worst bad beats of all time....ill give you four badbeats in tournys ...today...
first i had 8 k in chips avarage was 2k...dealt AA on button raised to 550....limper re raised to 1250...i pushed he called with 67 of....flop 66 7......
next second hand in the freeroll that just started for brm....get kk....all in pre against 2 raisers...both had aq...flop is k 65 all spades turn is spade ..of course i lose...
next im dealt AkAK hearts and spades...omaha hi tourny..... raise the action to 2200....i get pushed all in....i call....dipshit..idiot player shows 2 6 7j not suited....at all.....but who needs a flush when the flop is 222..............
last hand ak vs ace q..... .i flop king but still manage to lose......all in about 3 hrs.... this is tottaly unacceptable...i will never ever deposit into full tilt again
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Posted by yotalover: Well, what can you do? AJ beats AQ with money in after trun, J hits river. QQ against J7 all-in pre-flop, flop hits J, turn J, river 7. AJ against A10, the 10 hits. I give up. There is no way this happens this often in live poker.
I hear all those "that's poker" comments, but it just plain doesn't happen that often in live games. One would think that these online sites would want their %'s to be at least close, but they aren't.
I for one will never deposit my own money on these sites, and would have to seriously debate endorsing any of them If the oppertunity presented itself. That would only happen to get paid from them.
GL all. Yota
A) They aren't even significantly bad beats B) When people DO make these kinds of calls in live poker - the chances of the suck-out are the same. I played live for years before i ever played online. However - in live poker people are FAR less likely to call an allin with some s**t like J7o - I'm not saying live players are better - but it's a bit harder to do donkey s**t like that when you gotta look someone in the eye afterwards. And possibly avoid a punch to the head. C) You mention you will (haven't?) ever deposited your own money OK: i) You're probably playing freerolls and micros - of course you're gonna see a bunch of s**t like this - people are playing like maniacs ii) Step up to where the serious/regular players play - see if it isn't the GOOD players that win all the money over time (it is btw - it isn't the donkeys sunshine) iii) I seriously doubt you have the kind of sample size of data required to make the claim you seem to be making. D) On that note - before writing another retarded thread like this - use a poker tracker such as HEM to actually collect some empirical data - and present that in your findings next time - it goes a long way in making you NOT look like a total douchebag. E) Have you ever considered that maybe you're just a fuckhead who is s**t at poker ? Because that's what I'm thinking...
Z) Also - in regards to that other thread about this s**t - I said I wouldn't post in there again - but i'm gonna cheat a little bit just to say to the idiot at the end of the post who said "No one will ever be able to proove whether online poker is rigged or not" - you're absolutely 100% incorrect - thats why your bulls**t makes me sooo angry. USE EMPIRICAL DATA you dumbass. Buy a poker tracker - get all your rigtard mates to do the same - everyone log all their HH (in fact the tracker can import your histories from BEFORE you even bought the tracker) - and once you've collected enough data to mathematically test the RNG - bingo bango there's your answer..TY
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------------ just to quote from the other thread (and cheat again in my commitment to not posting in it anymore)
"JesstheHuman obviously has an interest defending the large pokersites...100% sure And he is not the only one ...you find them anywhere someone critics pokerstars or full tilt poker"
This makes me lol every time. I'm a rude, drunk , degenerate cunt. I seriously doubt I have "an interest" in any poker sites.
And I like the way you say "100% for sure" what is your scientific approach for reaching the 100% statistic ? Oh ? You don't have one ? You just thought you'd say 100% and that's cool. Making up statistics is fun isn't it ? That's what this rigged game is all about right ?
And obviously you've made it up - since I'm not what you are saying I am - and I doubt anyone who's been here for as long as me - or longer - would believe you either. You're just completely fucking insane.
Although, I am flattered by the insinuation none-the-less; It confirms my suspicion that I am arguing far better than you and you've resorted to falling back and made up bulls**t to refute my claims. Exactly like what happens when you argue with religious people.
------------ oh - and remco - if you read this - those two links you posted at the end of that last thread - truly awful. One of them (the youtube video one) even says "ALL POKER SITES have disabled the timer stat" - lol wtf - I cannot think of any site that doesn't show the tournament running time..The context was all 100 person SNG games run for 35-95min or some s**t - and have no idea what that is supposed to prove.. The length of poker games (live and online) are basically dictated by starting stacks vs blind structure. So most games that are the same (100 person SNG, or a daily MTT for example) will run approximately the same amount of time each time.
And that fuckpokerstars site was just terrible.. Just a bunch of whiny s**t, not evidence. And a bunch of pictures or videos of people losing with hands that had a greater preflop % chance to win. Oh and a bunch of s**t about PS being "where donkeys are king" or some s**t. DO these idiots really believe donkeys are winning money ? wtf
It's like rigtards think:
A) Donkeys are getting lots of money and good players are losing (as apposed to realising they ARE the donkeys and thats why they're losing) B) Which ever hand is strongest preflop MUST always win the hand - if the RNG is fair.
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Posted by yotalover: Well, what can you do? AJ beats AQ with money in after trun, J hits river. QQ against J7 all-in pre-flop, flop hits J, turn J, river 7. AJ against A10, the 10 hits. I give up. There is no way this happens this often in live poker.
Seen the last WSOP main events final tables? Suckouts, suckouts, suckouts.
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Posted by shokaku:
Posted by yotalover: Well, what can you do? AJ beats AQ with money in after trun, J hits river. QQ against J7 all-in pre-flop, flop hits J, turn J, river 7. AJ against A10, the 10 hits. I give up. There is no way this happens this often in live poker.
Seen the last WSOP main events final tables? Suckouts, suckouts, suckouts.
I'm guessing eyes are conveniently shut for these types of situations.
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in live poker u also will have the same deals very offten now i am played some live poker tournaments last two weaks and have really some bad beats the worst one poket jj vs oponent aq flop comes aj 6 oponent rise i push all in he had about double my stack chips so he easy calls turn q river q omg i out and its not online its live deal better luck next time
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Posted by mazas: in live poker u also will have the same deals very offten now i am played some live poker tournaments last two weaks and have really some bad beats the worst one poket jj vs oponent aq flop comes aj 6 oponent rise i push all in he had about double my stack chips so he easy calls turn q river q omg i out and its not online its live deal better luck next time
and that is why it's so funny to see threads complaining about bad beats all the time...as if they're too good of a player to get beaten by marginal hands..
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well it doesn't happen that much, this i agree with. you see, real poker players don't play like idiots most of the time. online is an idiot haven. but at the same time, i don't do blogs about bad beats. it happens to all of us, and they do set people up to lose great hands. it's how they eliminate people
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That is all in the game, just except this and have fun playing, because there will be alot more bad beats in the future. Play poker and do not worry about variance.
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