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i just busted out of the snowball 5k tourney at party...went far but not enough..20k runners went out at 315th to a guy who had KK for two consecutive hands...but this isn't about my last hand..this was a hand in the late stages of the tourney.a few hands before i busted out..i was in the middle of the leaderboard around 400-500 runners left i think..this hand could've taken me to the 20th-30th place on the chip count.
here goes..
badeaCR from BRM pushed all in...small blind flat calls..i was in the big blind with AK offsuit. i was itching to call knowing badea has been pushing all in quite a lot..i knew i was ahead of him..but i was basically going all in too had i called..almost all my stack would be committed.i folded because of the small blind smooth calling the shove. didn't want to go all in with AK against two players at that point.
what would you guys do at this situation ?
anyway.still happy with my play though.going deep in tourneys have been quite a regularity right now.hope to do the same tommorrow with the 10 k..wish me better luck
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A lot of times i go with my gut, right or wrong. You really cant say unless your in that situation.Its cool that you made it that far. thanks for sharing your experience.... good luck in the future/
every player is different,,, but for me i live or die having ak i could be on the bubble and still push all in with ace king, no matter what sitution it is......... i call or ship it.... the reason for this is because ever since i started playing poker over15 years ago, ive always done this... my percentage win over all is good playing this way/ won more than ive lost, won many of tourneys this way gained loads of chips dont get me wrong its very dangerous, this is my system some times it has got me in trouble but taking the risk has so much big rewards,
am not saying you take up this method, but this is what ive always done .... live or die by ace king............ my moto good luck and see you soon for new posts
also play to win any tourney you play not to finish in the money.........
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i dont think you did wrong really, i myself may have called but good chance i prob fold there because of what you said the smooth call, but then again if i maybe thought he would call him light becase he was thinking the same as you the guy was shoving alot but its a real gamble AK against 2 people and often ends up in misery so folding is def not a bad thing at all in my eyes and im sure alot of peoples here but nice run anyway did you cash? GL in the 10k tomorrow
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It'd depend how many blinds I had tbh. I think if I was shorter than 30 bb then I'd make the call.. Couldn't skip a chance to triple up here.. But with the flat call before you it's tricky.. If I had 50+ bb I'd probably fold and wait. If I had between 30-50 bb it would really depend how I felt at the time.
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Well it certainly depends on whether you're prepared to risk your tourney life for the advantage point. If you're likely to make the money without the triple up and hit the amount of money you set on winning then fold. If you're going for first place and can't afford to miss good chances, if you feel more comfortable about losing than playing to less than your potential, if you have a large enough bankroll to put this game down to variance, then you must call.
Chances are if you recognised that the raiser could have anything, then the small blind also did and his range is weak. If he has a rag ace you have him dominated and if he has a pair less than aces you have outs. Even if you are less than 50% to win, which in most cases you will be, you most likely have good odds to call in order to get a valuable lead. I'd say the chances of you being in very bad shape are very low and the chances of you being favourite are high enough to factor in. So I'd most likely call.
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Posted by jessthehuman: It'd depend how many blinds I had tbh. I think if I was shorter than 30 bb then I'd make the call.. Couldn't skip a chance to triple up here.. But with the flat call before you it's tricky.. If I had 50+ bb I'd probably fold and wait. If I had between 30-50 bb it would really depend how I felt at the time.
thats my point exactly jess if you need the chips well ship it but the smooth call could be dodgy you could look for a better spot, one of them could have a pair or both and if its for your tourney life. also dont know the smooth caller was he tight or what if kinda short get it in but if you think you could maybe beat fold its a tricky one either way is not bad in my eyes
Posted by Flippedchips: i dont think you did wrong really, i myself may have called but good chance i prob fold there because of what you said the smooth call, but then again if i maybe thought he would call him light becase he was thinking the same as you the guy was shoving alot but its a real gamble AK against 2 people and often ends up in misery so folding is def not a bad thing at all in my eyes and im sure alot of peoples here but nice run anyway did you cash? GL in the 10k tomorrow
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so your saying you like to please the crowd i know what you mean, i have been wondering you made a few posts now then say the opposite but that makes sense
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Posted by Flippedchips:
Posted by jessthehuman: It'd depend how many blinds I had tbh. I think if I was shorter than 30 bb then I'd make the call.. Couldn't skip a chance to triple up here.. But with the flat call before you it's tricky.. If I had 50+ bb I'd probably fold and wait. If I had between 30-50 bb it would really depend how I felt at the time.
thats my point exactly jess if you need the chips well ship it but the smooth call could be dodgy you could look for a better spot, one of them could have a pair or both and if its for your tourney life. also dont know the smooth caller was he tight or what if kinda short get it in but if you think you could maybe beat fold its a tricky one either way is not bad in my eyes
yeah... the smooth call threw me off....that's the only thing that made me think i should fold. the guy wasn't playing loose so a quick call from him made me think twice about it. i was really gonna call the all-in push from badeaCR had the small blind folded.that i'm really sure of..anyway, thanks for the replies guys...hope i do better tonight at the $10k snowball
Edited by flexibleeric (08 March 2011 @ 05:49 GMT)
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Hahahaha. Definately all-in. You said it yourself I was pushing a lot, basically any 2 cards regardless of position that I liked how they looked. I was playing for 3 hours already and my girlfriend has been begging me for the last hour to stop . So you can count me out of the equation and AK is a nice allin hand for heads-up . The reward for winning that hand is so worth it. Excluding someone has aces aces you got your share of the equity that matches the pot odds so it's totally worth it. Also the blinds were so high, just look at what those people called with. Basically you're the only one that should have called but due to antes and super high blinds people were so loose.
Hope to see you again today. I'll put a sleeping pill in her tea or something ...
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i agree with u dozn01,,if i have ace and king i wont hesitate to all in my all chipps,heheh,,not so scary if u have thoose cards,,ace is always come up almost every deal hahaha,,lol,i even all in if i only have king and ten,,,i always get luck of it,hehehe,
awww last tym when i was won as bieng first player of the tourney i think 50$ only,so first prizepool was around 10$ anyways my card on that time was ace and two,then the other player was had ace and king,but hahah i won coz the river was two,so i was had pair two lol.
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nice job u made i finished last night also in money but poor place about 1000 just only 1 $ earned for 3 hours playing damn but had situation i am preflop aa oponent qq i rise he call flop brings small cards i rise he rerise i am all in he calls and turn brings q i ll out easy with my stack who was about 150 k he had about 200 k bad but sometimes u must loose and sometimes also u was lucky hen aa was knoked good luck and hope today u ll also have good run in the 10 k snowfall
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That is a tough one because you were middle of the pack, and a player smooth called the allin. I have often seen the smooth call be someone with AA or KK who doesn't want to scare off any other potential donations to the pot. A lot of my call or fold on this hand would depend on my "feel" for how the table is playing, especially the "smooth caller". No easy calls or laydowns with this one. If you had called and missed you would have still posted this hand but asked "Should I have layed this one down?" Just a tough call among many that makes the difference between finishing high or scraping into the money. Poker!
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in my view AK is not at all a bad hand to go allin.But i had a lot of experiences with AK,whenever i pushed allin with AK the other guy who called had pocket aces.LOL.
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I prob would have called. I just got busted in the BRM freeroll with that exact hand, other guy had QQ and won. Finished in the $$$$, and it was my BB. Sometimes like so many others have said, go with your gut feelings, if i had I'd still be in. But sometimes you have to defend your BB. Good job tho
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Posted by BadeaCR: Hahahaha. Definately all-in. You said it yourself I was pushing a lot, basically any 2 cards regardless of position that I liked how they looked. I was playing for 3 hours already and my girlfriend has been begging me for the last hour to stop . So you can count me out of the equation and AK is a nice allin hand for heads-up . The reward for winning that hand is so worth it. Excluding someone has aces aces you got your share of the equity that matches the pot odds so it's totally worth it. Also the blinds were so high, just look at what those people called with. Basically you're the only one that should have called but due to antes and super high blinds people were so loose.
Hope to see you again today. I'll put a sleeping pill in her tea or something ...
hey buddy..yeah, hope to be tabled again with you later...
i'm definitely all-in against you..but that smooth call on the small blind i thought was kinda suspicious that's why i opted to fold..anyway, charge to experience
goodluck to everyone who'll play at the 10k
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Posted by mahdrof: That is a tough one because you were middle of the pack, and a player smooth called the allin. I have often seen the smooth call be someone with AA or KK who doesn't want to scare off any other potential donations to the pot. A lot of my call or fold on this hand would depend on my "feel" for how the table is playing, especially the "smooth caller". No easy calls or laydowns with this one. If you had called and missed you would have still posted this hand but asked "Should I have layed this one down?" Just a tough call among many that makes the difference between finishing high or scraping into the money. Poker!
yeah..you're right..no easy calls or laydowns..
even if you had the best hand preflop, you're still not sure how it will end...just look at another hand from the same tourney...damn, this made me uncomfortable..LOL
Edited by flexibleeric (08 March 2011 @ 18:25 GMT)
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Hard decision, but I probably woulda put the smooth caller on getting the same read on the all-in'er as me. So I would put him on AK at best and woulda pushed myself. So what happened with the hand anyway?
that you made it that far. thanks for sharing your experience.... good luck in the future/
. So you can count me out of the equation and AK is a nice allin hand for heads-up 
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