The Englishman Luke Schwartz is well-known troublemaker in the poker world. For example, he has been banned from several casinos due to misbehavior and stealing. However, there hasn't been much talk about him lately and it almost seemed like his character had changed for the better for a while. Well, that was until a few days ago when he once again got himself into trouble after personal attacks o[...] Read more » Luke "__FullFlush1__" Schwartz's attack on "jungleman12"
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by p0ck3tr0ck3t: as for ppl sayin there gonna use the autistic spaz thing u make me sick how would u feel if some1 close to u had autismn an some1 said that about em
That's such a ridiculous argument. I can't believe somebody who is 20yrs old still thinks like that. Going by your rational how would ANY comedian be able to make ANY jokes ? They'd always be offending somebody who knew somebody who had/was/is something.
Seriously.
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FYI: When somebody makes jokes about things are says things that directly relate to somebody I know - I don't take it personally and if its funny I still laugh. Why ? Because I'm not a wanker.
lol i was thinking the same would you take offense to someone saying something bad about someone with saggy tits because you are close to someone with saggy tits
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Yeah ^ I dunno how this guy is a poker player.. if you wanna talk about "levels" he is thinking about this on roughly a 13yr old level.. Seriously, 20yrs old and this is as far as he has thought it through.
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Posted by Flippedchips:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by p0ck3tr0ck3t: as for ppl sayin there gonna use the autistic spaz thing u make me sick how would u feel if some1 close to u had autismn an some1 said that about em
That's such a ridiculous argument. I can't believe somebody who is 20yrs old still thinks like that. Going by your rational how would ANY comedian be able to make ANY jokes ? They'd always be offending somebody who knew somebody who had/was/is something.
Seriously.
------------ Oh
FYI: When somebody makes jokes about things are says things that directly relate to somebody I know - I don't take it personally and if its funny I still laugh. Why ? Because I'm not a wanker.
lol i was thinking the same would you take offense to someone saying something bad about someone with saggy tits because you are close to someone with saggy tits
not a rediculous argument. i have a brother slightly older than me who is autistic hes had insults all his life hes been bullied hes been hit had things thrown at him. i dont think ud think it was rediculous if it was u who had to help YOUR brother when he was scared to go outside scared to see people and wouldnt even visit family. so b4 u start with your smart ass comments try an look at it from the point of view of somone that has to care for some1 who is autistic. maybe if u were in the same situation as me ud think about what u were saying
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Posted by p0ck3tr0ck3t:
Posted by Flippedchips:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by p0ck3tr0ck3t: as for ppl sayin there gonna use the autistic spaz thing u make me sick how would u feel if some1 close to u had autismn an some1 said that about em
That's such a ridiculous argument. I can't believe somebody who is 20yrs old still thinks like that. Going by your rational how would ANY comedian be able to make ANY jokes ? They'd always be offending somebody who knew somebody who had/was/is something.
Seriously.
------------ Oh
FYI: When somebody makes jokes about things are says things that directly relate to somebody I know - I don't take it personally and if its funny I still laugh. Why ? Because I'm not a wanker.
lol i was thinking the same would you take offense to someone saying something bad about someone with saggy tits because you are close to someone with saggy tits
not a rediculous argument. i have a brother slightly older than me who is autistic hes had insults all his life hes been bullied hes been hit had things thrown at him. i dont think ud think it was rediculous if it was u who had to help YOUR brother when he was scared to go outside scared to see people and wouldnt even visit family. so b4 u start with your smart ass comments try an look at it from the point of view of somone that has to care for some1 who is autistic. maybe if u were in the same situation as me ud think about what u were saying
you're wrong. And I'm speaking from a similar type of situation and my LACK of reaction to it - stop taking things so personally when they're clearly not. Man up.
------------ FYI: This has nothing. And I mean NOTHING to do with autism.. What about using the word "gay" you ever called anything gay ? how you reckon gays feel ? I'll tell you how. They dont give a f**k. Cause they aint little bitches. like you.
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"wtf do u want u autistic spaz" NOTHING to do with autism i take it personally because of the situation im in. u dont know anything about me so how can u judge me an start insulting me for something that would offend me? im sure ud say something if some1 said something that would offend u but wouldnt offend them.
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i think the point was that thr statement was not meant for someone who was autistic thats clear, people who do stuff like that deserve a kicking in my eyes but what we were saying is that you cant take offense to things like that just because you are close to someone. Im not sticking up for luke here but im sure jungleman is not really autistic, luke is out of order but the point is hes not calling someone who is autistic an autistic spaz if he was then thats another thing all together but hes not.
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Posted by Flippedchips: i think the point was that thr statement was not meant for someone who was autistic thats clear, people who do stuff like that deserve a kicking in my eyes but what we were saying is that you cant take offense to things like that just because you are close to someone. Im not sticking up for luke here but im sure jungleman is not really autistic, luke is out of order but the point is hes not calling someone who is autistic an autistic spaz if he was then thats another thing all together but hes not.
ohhh.... iv never seen cates and i didnt know he wasnt autistic as it states in the news feed it was a personal attack on cates so i assumed that he was with him taking offense. then when i saw comments with ppl say thats brilliant pissed me off. i wish u woulda said this b4 then me an jess wouldnt have had our lil argument.
@jessthehuman i appologize for th lil rant its clear now that i missunderstood what u were saying. thanks flippedchips for clearing it up.
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Posted by p0ck3tr0ck3t:
Posted by Flippedchips: i think the point was that thr statement was not meant for someone who was autistic thats clear, people who do stuff like that deserve a kicking in my eyes but what we were saying is that you cant take offense to things like that just because you are close to someone. Im not sticking up for luke here but im sure jungleman is not really autistic, luke is out of order but the point is hes not calling someone who is autistic an autistic spaz if he was then thats another thing all together but hes not.
ohhh.... iv never seen cates and i didnt know he wasnt autistic as it states in the news feed it was a personal attack on cates so i assumed that he was with him taking offense. then when i saw comments with ppl say thats brilliant pissed me off. i wish u woulda said this b4 then me an jess wouldnt have had our lil argument.
@jessthehuman i appologize for th lil rant its clear now that i missunderstood what u were saying. thanks flippedchips for clearing it up.
OH ! Ok - well I appologise to then !
I completely agree - if cates was actually autistic then that would be a completely fucking disgusting thing to say.
I believe this guy uses his mouth as a tactic to tilt opponents a lot...he has been doing it to way too many people, especially Tom Dwan...he's a real prick!
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LOL i bet this article had more views than any of the other headlines. Just the name Luke Schwartz gets readers looking' i dont see what the big deal is i seen crap like this thousands of times at micro stakes what makes this so mutch worse just because its more money? im sure Daniel Cates couldnt care less and left without thinking twice about what he said, as im sure schwartz wil say many more comments to people who beat him regurlarly. Not everyone has respect, everybody is different.. No biggie NO BIGGIE ...just as long as they dont cross any lines with racism or discrimination or whatever then.... pffff let luke say woteva woteva
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Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by p0ck3tr0ck3t:
Posted by Flippedchips: i think the point was that thr statement was not meant for someone who was autistic thats clear, people who do stuff like that deserve a kicking in my eyes but what we were saying is that you cant take offense to things like that just because you are close to someone. Im not sticking up for luke here but im sure jungleman is not really autistic, luke is out of order but the point is hes not calling someone who is autistic an autistic spaz if he was then thats another thing all together but hes not.
ohhh.... iv never seen cates and i didnt know he wasnt autistic as it states in the news feed it was a personal attack on cates so i assumed that he was with him taking offense. then when i saw comments with ppl say thats brilliant pissed me off. i wish u woulda said this b4 then me an jess wouldnt have had our lil argument.
@jessthehuman i appologize for th lil rant its clear now that i missunderstood what u were saying. thanks flippedchips for clearing it up.
OH ! Ok - well I appologise to then !
I completely agree - if cates was actually autistic then that would be a completely fucking disgusting thing to say.
Well, would it? You call a gay gay, a blind man blind, so if he was autistic, then I guess its not sick to call him autistic, now spaz, well thats a plane stupid thing to say, derived from the spastic socity that no longer exsists its kinda a pointless word, BTW its now Called Scope, so Autistic Scopie would be more fitting, if he was.. Also before any one gets on thier horse, Iv done lots of charity work in the past working along side of people who were/are autistic, and guess what they have humor!!! Yep they do, the only people who get offended are those who feel sorry for them, and they dont need your pitty, your hang up not thiers.
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Well it's unfortunate that he would say that, I'd like to hear hs say that live while I'm at a table. As the father of an autistic child Id do exactly what I want and knock him slap the f**k out.
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Posted by B1gfoot:
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by p0ck3tr0ck3t:
Posted by Flippedchips: i think the point was that thr statement was not meant for someone who was autistic thats clear, people who do stuff like that deserve a kicking in my eyes but what we were saying is that you cant take offense to things like that just because you are close to someone. Im not sticking up for luke here but im sure jungleman is not really autistic, luke is out of order but the point is hes not calling someone who is autistic an autistic spaz if he was then thats another thing all together but hes not.
ohhh.... iv never seen cates and i didnt know he wasnt autistic as it states in the news feed it was a personal attack on cates so i assumed that he was with him taking offense. then when i saw comments with ppl say thats brilliant pissed me off. i wish u woulda said this b4 then me an jess wouldnt have had our lil argument.
@jessthehuman i appologize for th lil rant its clear now that i missunderstood what u were saying. thanks flippedchips for clearing it up.
OH ! Ok - well I appologise to then !
I completely agree - if cates was actually autistic then that would be a completely fucking disgusting thing to say.
Well, would it? You call a gay gay, a blind man blind, so if he was autistic, then I guess its not sick to call him autistic, now spaz, well thats a plane stupid thing to say, derived from the spastic socity that no longer exsists its kinda a pointless word, BTW its now Called Scope, so Autistic Scopie would be more fitting, if he was.. Also before any one gets on thier horse, Iv done lots of charity work in the past working along side of people who were/are autistic, and guess what they have humor!!! Yep they do, the only people who get offended are those who feel sorry for them, and they dont need your pitty, your hang up not thiers.
It really comes down to context and intent. Calling a blind person "blind" - such as "oh, you're blind" is not really offensive. Calling a blind person "hey blindy !" might be considered offensive depending on the person.. Likewise, saying to an autistic person "wtf do u want u autistic spaz" would generally be considered offense.. Although once again, it could depend - if they were your mate and had a sick sense of humour - then obviously it might in some cases also be appropriate..
TBH - I was mostly just try to appreciate where p0ck3tr0ck3t was comign from.
But I generally agree with what you're say B1gfoot.
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he was probably scared of playing against jungleman so just wanted to piss him off and make him leave, but still very poor attitude from him. hes doing himself no good by making other pros his enemies
