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  5-Jan-12, 04:01   #1
Ugh, are super turbos ever swingy. 0 
retribution 

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Had some spare time and was "in the mood" to crush some fishies in poker, so I fired up some super turbo sit n go's today.

After around 30 total, I floated from around -100% ROI(yes, I lost all of them) in the first 20, to finish up +3% for the session. Got it in good, and just wasn't holding until the end, then went on to win 1st in like 4, and 2nd/3rd in another 3. Hooray Smile

     
  5-Jan-12, 04:36   #2
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arthur72 

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Nice turn around there Mate. Congrats and lets keep it going..... Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile This is the kind of thread I like to see, it is very encouraging for all. Worship Worship

     
  5-Jan-12, 10:41   #3
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Chartoule 
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Hi guys!!

Superturbos, mph. You must have a rock hard mentality and a good anti-tilt system to finally win +3% after losing 20 in a row. Nice hand, sir.


     
  5-Jan-12, 11:25   #4
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Tchungpo 

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Hell yeah, if u want very high variance, play super turbo's sng's. U can easily observe drops of 100 buy ins when things goes wrong, so you need a very high bankroll (i'd suggest something like 200-300 buyin minimum) and rakeback is recommanded too. I tried to grind this s**t too, but after a thousand games finishing break even, i think i need rakeback to be a winning player on those one.

     
  5-Jan-12, 14:02   #5
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pochui 

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i enjoy super turbo format- sng, multi table tourneys....i think in the end this format just takes less time to play- swings are bigger, but when you look on a longer time frame, they are not horrible. i like the action with these games, you get lot's of stupid decisions, lot more than in the regular games, so if you manage to keep your head i believe super turbo's offer more potential... Question

     
  5-Jan-12, 16:56   #6
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shoveandtilt 

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GG sir, nice turn-around and a nice solid mentality shown. Good luck in future endeavours dude!

     
  6-Jan-12, 06:51   #7
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retribution 

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Posted by Tchungpo:
Hell yeah, if u want very high variance, play super turbo's sng's. U can easily observe drops of 100 buy ins when things goes wrong, so you need a very high bankroll (i'd suggest something like 200-300 buyin minimum) and rakeback is recommanded too. I tried to grind this s**t too, but after a thousand games finishing break even, i think i need rakeback to be a winning player on those one.


Oh hell ya, I think rakeback makes a HUGE difference in them for sure. Pre FT closing, I used to play them exclusively on FT, playing around 6-8 at a time, which was SOOO much easier because of table ninja. God I miss table ninja and full tilt.

Point is, I was hovering around a 4% ROI, before my 27% rakeback, so I definately believe rakeback is going to be a HUGE part of your profit.

Great thing is, as swingy as they are, you can play so ABC it's ridiculous. Having even the most basic knowledge of ICM and Nash will give you a HUGE edge over the rest of the field.

It's REALLY hard to deal with the swings though. I could easily play 100+ in a session, and see swings of like 10-30% +/-.

     
  6-Jan-12, 07:00   #8
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arthur72 

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I love Super Turbo's as I have always been able to build my stack fast and then sit back and enjoy the ride to the $$$$$$ Although later on when I may have lost focused, I have made too many rash calls and bubbled final tables....

     
  6-Jan-12, 11:30   #9
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Fakiry 

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Not bad. Now think about how would have things gone if you have started the game with the same concentration you had when you started loosing and realized you had to do better? It would have been a great spare time! Not bad, but better luck next time!

     
  6-Jan-12, 14:00   #10
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djtopato 
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I play HyperTurbos 500starting chips on PS 3.5$.The point was HIT Ace and goes all in,some days i have UPswing 40$ then down 30$ then up 20 then down 50.Hyper turbos are not poker for sure.more gambling and profit for poker rooms.

     
  6-Jan-12, 14:45   #11
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Mober 
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I dont know how much time you have in hyper turbos at PS but i have played a few sng's at ipoker where the blinds are at three minutes. It is awful Smile You have to pick a hand and go all in, in order to stay as much needed to get paid.And by saying pick a hand i mean any hand Smile

     
  7-Jan-12, 02:27   #12
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Greenmohave 

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After reading your thread and the comments I decided to play a couple of micro SnG's, $1.10 - 27 players. Finished 2nd in both games which probably means I need to practice playing some headsup. Anyway I'm trying to attach my trophies! Glad you decided to do this thread! Not much $$, but was fun. Good Luck to All!

Attached Images2nd Place SnG.JPG Win#2.JPG

     
  7-Jan-12, 17:13   #13
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Serpang 
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Congrats, finally your time came Big Smile Big Smile . Important thing is you could win so have more spirit, right ?
Good luck

     
  7-Jan-12, 19:24   #14
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Arithmajik 

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Yeah, good job Retribution, I definitely would've needed to take a break or switch games well before losing 30 in a row. I'm peeved if I loose 6 in a row, lol.

Super Turbos are definitely high swing but I like them. Fast paced, and tend to be more fishy for sure. So many bad moves.

     
  7-Jan-12, 19:27   #15
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retribution 

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Posted by Greenmohave:
After reading your thread and the comments I decided to play a couple of micro SnG's, $1.10 - 27 players. Finished 2nd in both games which probably means I need to practice playing some headsup. Anyway I'm trying to attach my trophies! Glad you decided to do this thread! Not much $$, but was fun. Good Luck to All!


I've never played MTT supers, what's the pace like? Normal stt supers last around 5-10 minutes, depending on starting stacks and tightness of the opponents, so I'm curious how long the MTT's run.

I could imagine combining the additional variance of MTT with the already swingy variance of supers would just be soul crushing though. I'd imagine that you'd need to have a lot of extra BI padding to be able to handle the additional swings. If 100-200 is a safe BI for STT (although I typicall practice the lower end of 100 and have never gone broke), I wonder what a good # for mtt would be.

     
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