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  12-Jan-12, 17:25   #1
No Gaming Payments for U.S. Citizens via Moneybookers +1 
Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
I posted a thread yesterday concerning cashing in some of my Mobpoints via Moneybookers and this is what I learned.

I verified the problem at Moneybookers today. I ended up calling their service department and found out that they (Moneybookers) no longer accepts payments from any type of gaming sites. That is in the United States moneybookers won't allow use of their services. So, if I would ever attempt to collect payments from the pokersites I play on I guess I can't.

I'm really frustrated with what the U.S. has done to the electronic gaming industry. This country wants to ensure they can collect their share of everyones money no matter what. THey take taxes out of our weekly pay checks, then everything we buy with what's left of our pay check they tax more, yet they can't run our country like a profitable business. They (U.S. Gov.) continue to bury the country in debt while government officials turn into wealthy freeloaders on the American workers tax dollars. It's a joke!

Sorry! I know no one cares to read about my personal feelings toward our mighty GOV. Good Luck to All!

     
  12-Jan-12, 18:01   #2
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2367
Posted by Greenmohave:
I know no one cares to read about my personal feelings toward our mighty GOV.


After being gone for a few months you were welcomed back with open arms, so I don't think that is true Greenie. In fact what happened in the US last year was not good for online poker so it affects a lot of people outside of US too. The best thing is contact the sites that accept US players and find out how to get money into your account. What site do you play at Greenie? If they have player to player transfers you could have BRM transfer the points to me, I'll get them into my MB account, into my account at the site and then tranfer. Let me know.

BTW, I'll be busy for the next few hours so if you respond I probably will not be able to answer until late today or tomorrow. GL

     
  12-Jan-12, 19:43   #3
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
Age: 39 (F)
Posts: 10011
Its not only for gaming sites that issue with moneybookers.
Last year an American tried to make a cash transfer to my MB account with no success.
He was keep getting the message that he is not allowed to, so we ended up to Western Union which both had used before.

     
  12-Jan-12, 20:19   #4
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xdomagojx 

Joined: Sep '10
Location: Croatia
Age: 28 (M)
Posts: 399
What is even worse like mahdrof said they are influencing the rest of the world with their nonsense. I m also frustrated at what they do cause of it and i dont see them stoping until they get majority of the cake involved. Greedy f...s.

     
  12-Jan-12, 20:48   #5
  +1 
retribution 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1490
Posted by Greenmohave:
I posted a thread yesterday concerning cashing in some of my Mobpoints via Moneybookers and this is what I learned.

I verified the problem at Moneybookers today. I ended up calling their service department and found out that they (Moneybookers) no longer accepts payments from any type of gaming sites. That is in the United States moneybookers won't allow use of their services. So, if I would ever attempt to collect payments from the pokersites I play on I guess I can't.

I'm really frustrated with what the U.S. has done to the electronic gaming industry. This country wants to ensure they can collect their share of everyones money no matter what. THey take taxes out of our weekly pay checks, then everything we buy with what's left of our pay check they tax more, yet they can't run our country like a profitable business. They (U.S. Gov.) continue to bury the country in debt while government officials turn into wealthy freeloaders on the American workers tax dollars. It's a joke!

Sorry! I know no one cares to read about my personal feelings toward our mighty GOV. Good Luck to All!


Hey man, you're preaching to the choir. The US government is greedy, corrupt and exists solely for the purpose of screwing it's citizens. They tax the crap out of people, and then can't even be arsed to provide the bare essentials, such as free, equal healthcare for everyone. They will do everything in their power to make sure everyone is taxed as much as possible, in every way possible. Classic case of the rich stealing from the poor.

Until people wake up and realise what's going on, it won't change.

     
  12-Jan-12, 20:52   #6
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
mahdrof, thanks for the reply. I'm sure I don't know exactly how it's affected others and as I can see by the replies it's not just here, but after finding out that moneybookers won't support electronic gaming I got frustrated.

Anyway! I play at a place BRM supports so I think I can let you know I'm currently playing at Carbon poker. I have no problem depositing funds to their site, but wondering how I will be able to cashout. Actually this isn't that big of a worry since I play the micros for the biggest part just because I love playing poker. I just feel like someone's intervening in my private life (meaning U.S. Gov.) when I can't do what I want with my money.

As for cashing Mobpoints, I know it's not a lot of money, but what BRM does for us with points is really great so I thought I'd try cashing some in. If BRM will allow it I would work out something with you. Thanks! I'll split the 5000 points if we can work something out.

     
  12-Jan-12, 21:48   #7
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MicroMachina 

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 657
Those illegal drones aint cheap. death to the empire!

When the us govey does find a way to extort money from the pokersites ill likely stop playing. Id rather give it to gypsies then have my money go to terrorists.

The govey there is too large and the career politicians seem to be the only ones in the country allowed to keep their pensions while everyother employer circumvents benefits and pensions by becoming bankrupt.

The simple fact is 2012 is gonna be one hell of a year no matter what mark my words. People are fed up.

     
  12-Jan-12, 21:53   #8
  +1 
retribution 

Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 1490
Posted by MicroMachina:
Those illegal drones aint cheap. death to the empire!

When the us govey does find a way to extort money from the pokersites ill likely stop playing. Id rather give it to gypsies then have my money go to terrorists.

The govey there is too large and the career politicians seem to be the only ones in the country allowed to keep their pensions while everyother employer circumvents benefits and pensions by becoming bankrupt.


The simple fact is 2012 is gonna be one hell of a year no matter what mark my words. People are fed up.


Oh, there's already mass awareness spreading around north america. Occupy movements are spreading like wildfire, and there's more and more blogs/videos etc being posted every day. As well, a hacker group going by the handle "anonymous" has been conducting hacks against major government sites, opening peoples eyes to the lies.

Our current government system is a joke, it's set up by rich people, to protect themselves and their friends, all while preying on the poor.

     
  12-Jan-12, 21:56   #9
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MicroMachina 

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 657
Back in the day we used to sell amercianos money via ebay. ebay stopped that though.

i hope poker players get out and vote in the upcoming election.

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Posted by retribution:
Posted by MicroMachina:
Those illegal drones aint cheap. death to the empire!

When the us govey does find a way to extort money from the pokersites ill likely stop playing. Id rather give it to gypsies then have my money go to terrorists.

The govey there is too large and the career politicians seem to be the only ones in the country allowed to keep their pensions while everyother employer circumvents benefits and pensions by becoming bankrupt.


The simple fact is 2012 is gonna be one hell of a year no matter what mark my words. People are fed up.


Oh, there's already mass awareness spreading around north america. Occupy movements are spreading like wildfire, and there's more and more blogs/videos etc being posted every day. As well, a hacker group going by the handle "anonymous" has been conducting hacks against major government sites, opening peoples eyes to the lies.

Our current government system is a joke, it's set up by rich people, to protect themselves and their friends, all while preying on the poor.


Occupy ALL streets Smile

     
  13-Jan-12, 01:49   #10
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2367
Posted by Greenmohave:
mahdrof, thanks for the reply. I'm sure I don't know exactly how it's affected others and as I can see by the replies it's not just here, but after finding out that moneybookers won't support electronic gaming I got frustrated.

Anyway! I play at a place BRM supports so I think I can let you know I'm currently playing at Carbon poker. I have no problem depositing funds to their site, but wondering how I will be able to cashout. Actually this isn't that big of a worry since I play the micros for the biggest part just because I love playing poker. I just feel like someone's intervening in my private life (meaning U.S. Gov.) when I can't do what I want with my money.

As for cashing Mobpoints, I know it's not a lot of money, but what BRM does for us with points is really great so I thought I'd try cashing some in. If BRM will allow it I would work out something with you. Thanks! I'll split the 5000 points if we can work something out.


Okay Green, I created an account at Carbon. I'm not looking to take a slice of your points, so just have BRM send them over and I'll get the money to you through player transfer on Carbon. Always glad to help out a regular forum member. BTW MoneyBookers might take a slice so it might not work out to $50 on the nose.

     
  13-Jan-12, 01:59   #11
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byng0 
Joined: Mar '11
Location: Canada
Age: 65 (M)
Posts: 216
Posted by mahdrof:
Posted by Greenmohave:
mahdrof, thanks for the reply. I'm sure I don't know exactly how it's affected others and as I can see by the replies it's not just here, but after finding out that moneybookers won't support electronic gaming I got frustrated.

Anyway! I play at a place BRM supports so I think I can let you know I'm currently playing at Carbon poker. I have no problem depositing funds to their site, but wondering how I will be able to cashout. Actually this isn't that big of a worry since I play the micros for the biggest part just because I love playing poker. I just feel like someone's intervening in my private life (meaning U.S. Gov.) when I can't do what I want with my money.

As for cashing Mobpoints, I know it's not a lot of money, but what BRM does for us with points is really great so I thought I'd try cashing some in. If BRM will allow it I would work out something with you. Thanks! I'll split the 5000 points if we can work something out.


Okay Green, I created an account at Carbon. I'm not looking to take a slice of your points, so just have BRM send them over and I'll get the money to you through player transfer on Carbon. Always glad to help out a regular forum member. BTW MoneyBookers might take a slice so it might not work out to $50 on the nose.




Nice Job mahdrof, still some great people around and Canadian eh?

     
  13-Jan-12, 02:34   #12
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Erratic 
Joined: Nov '11
Location: Canada
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 2
Posted by byng0:

Nice Job mahdrof, still some great people around and Canadian eh?


Reading that and I just want to.. I dunno... JAJAJAJAJAJAJA

     
  13-Jan-12, 04:56   #13
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 4873
Posted by Greenmohave:
but wondering how I will be able to cashout.

you can withdraw via check from carbon
u might need to make a small deposit using a prepaid visa card and also ask their support for any play-through requirements that might be on player transfers

     
  13-Jan-12, 08:38   #14
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MicroMachina 

Joined: Aug '08
Location: Canada
Age: 36 (M)
Posts: 657
They say it takes 8-10 weeks for check and player xfers are unrestricted once you verify identity.

     
  13-Jan-12, 11:11   #15
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi guys!

The US goverment hit hard the world gamimg industry and e-wallets. We must expect with the new regulation things go better. But i have really few faith in goverments..

     
  13-Jan-12, 13:47   #16
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Greenmohave 

Joined: Jan '11
Location: United States
Age: 52 (M)
Posts: 3361
mahdrof; I really appreciate you doing this, but I would like you to take 50% of the cashin. There is one issue I see at Carbon and that is player to player transfers are not an accessible term prior to contacting support so I sent Carbon Support an e-mail today. I won't be back on BRM until later today, probably 4 hrs. from now. I will check my e-mail to see if they replied. Again thanks and the split is no big deal. I currently have $$ on my account so let's see what they do!

     
  13-Jan-12, 14:21   #17
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mahdrof 

Joined: Nov '09
Location: Canada
Age: 47 (M)
Posts: 2367
Posted by Greenmohave:
mahdrof; I really appreciate you doing this, but I would like you to take 50% of the cashin. There is one issue I see at Carbon and that is player to player transfers are not an accessible term prior to contacting support so I sent Carbon Support an e-mail today. I won't be back on BRM until later today, probably 4 hrs. from now. I will check my e-mail to see if they replied. Again thanks and the split is no big deal. I currently have $$ on my account so let's see what they do!

Thank you Green, that is very generous of you. I will not be on BRM for a few hours as well. One of our subcontractors screwed up big time at one of our top customers, and the meeting starts in an hour. I'll need a stiff drink at the end of the day.

Sad


PAGING JACK DANIELS, PAGING JACK DANIELS!
YOU ARE REQUESTED IN A NICE TALL GLASS FOR MAHDROF AT AROUND 7:00 TONIGHT!

     
  13-Jan-12, 15:09   #18
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
From what i know moneybookers or skrill never was too frindly with the US market something similar like paypal to europeans...

What about netteler, you can make an account there?

     
  13-Jan-12, 15:42   #19
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1476
I have no new idea for you, but mahdrof help is great. I just want to ask : maybe US start change
FREEDOM to dictator , eh ? US poker player should be do something. Blink

     
  13-Jan-12, 17:23   #20
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DaCapo71 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1703
I thought this restriction are only against FullTilt players around the world last year. But what happened with the money from all us players? Or catched the DOJ all bucks from us players?

     
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