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  18-Feb-12, 21:12   #1
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Serpang 
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Continuing greenmohave thread, after total play a week. How many percent do you win price a week ?
no matter how much buy in .For MTT and s n g. cash game exclude

It's me 0 - 20 %
Angry Angry Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap! Aww crap!

Edited by Serpang (Saturday, February 18, 2012 @ 21:24 GMT)


     
  18-Feb-12, 22:03   #2
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Greenmohave 

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My problem is consistentcy with winning. It seem's like there's good days or bad days not many in betweens. There's times I've placed in the $$ every game I play in on one day then, no placing the next time I play. But, to give an honest answer I think it's about 33% overall. Probably 1 out of 3 I place in the $$. Actually winning is probably 12 to 14%, 1 out of 9 on average.

Mainly playing in the $1.10 to $3.30 SnG's witha few tournaments with the same entry fees.

     
  18-Feb-12, 23:21   #3
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marqis 

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The question is what percentage of weeks you win a prize in a MTT? I don't understand the relevance of this question, since it depends on how many tournaments you play in a weeks time...

You state that it's less than 20%, that would mean you only finish in the money once every 5 weeks? That seems low, unless you only play 1 MTT per week...

If however you mean to ask the percentage of MTT's you enter, you finish in the money, than 20% is pretty decent, depending on the type of tournament; some tournaments have prizes for the top 10%, and some have prizes for less than 1% of the players that entered.

     
  18-Feb-12, 23:49   #4
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zeroster 

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About 25% for micro sng.


Although I'm probably massively overestimating.

Edited by zeroster (Saturday, February 18, 2012 @ 23:56 GMT)


     
  19-Feb-12, 00:31   #5
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djtopato 
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i deposit before 4weeks 11.5$

The 10days UP to 200$ cashout 115$ recive bonus 10$ and then broke again next 2weeks.Lose with best hands after flop probably because agressive playing and fishing Aww crap!


     
  19-Feb-12, 02:21   #6
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MicroMachina 

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I finish on average 15% of my mtt's in the money.

I really dont know how to find sng stats for something like that but if i include sng's its lower then 15%.

reading it again maybe you are asking the chance you hit a prize each week. then like marqis says its dependant on how many you play for sure.




     
  19-Feb-12, 03:02   #7
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Serpang 
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Posted by marqis:
The question is what percentage of weeks you win a prize in a MTT? I don't understand the relevance of this question, since it depends on how many tournaments you play in a weeks time...

You state that it's less than 20%, that would mean you only finish in the money once every 5 weeks? That seems low, unless you only play 1 MTT per week...

If however you mean to ask the percentage of MTT's you enter, you finish in the money, than 20% is pretty decent, depending on the type of tournament; some tournaments have prizes for the top 10%, and some have prizes for less than 1% of the players that entered.



I mean if you play MTT + s n g 40 times and got prize 10 MTT or s n g it's mean 25 %. Yes, I thought I had low percentage to get prizes, so I make this thread to know how bad my position compare with you
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  19-Feb-12, 09:04   #8
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marqis 

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Posted by Serpang:
I mean if you play MTT + s n g 40 times and got prize 10 MTT or s n g it's mean 25 %. Yes, I thought I had low percentage to get prizes, so I make this thread to know how bad my position compare with you
Smile Smile


I see. The word "week" in your question, is what confused me; I suppose you included it in the question, for sample size (to prevent "yesterday I played 2 tournaments, and finished 1 in the money, so it's 50%" type of answers...).

Maybe the question should be

"What percentage of the last 50 MTTs you played, did you finish in the money?".

Personally I play lots of freeroll sub-qualifiers, where you compete with 600 people for the top 10 spots, or with 3500 people for the top 25 spots, for a ticket to a qualifier tournament. I doubt anyone will consistently get a percentage over 20% for those... I think I'm about 5 - 10% for those...

At the BRM freerolls at party poker however, usually the top 80 is in the money for a field of 600 people. It's definitely doable to do better than 20% there...

But overall, definitely < 20%...

     
  19-Feb-12, 09:54   #9
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sadamman 

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For sitngos I get in the money about 40% of the time, for MTT's probably about 5% of the time.

     
  22-Feb-12, 20:25   #10
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tomboogy 

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You can all see your stats on various results tracking sites (I will not give links because I am not sure I am allowed). Nonetheless, they are free to use so feel free to search them and see/compare your stats with others as to see where you stand.

To be on topic, I'm ITM about 25% of the time, but consider the fact that I mainly play large field mtts and some sngs (the mtt/sng ratio I think it's about 75/25). Plus, at mtts u can be ITM 3% of the time, but if you take 1st in a large field mtt and don't make the money rest of the time you will still have a ROI of more than 100%....

edit: you can make the money in many mtts if you really want JUST that...by playing super safe and tight close to the bubble...but that won't be profitable in the long run.. Rather than that, you should look to put pressure on your opponents on the bubble, avoid the really big stacks (the best stacks to get in a hand with are the small-mid ones.. I'd say 20-30bb) because they don't have much room for maneuvers and usually tend to play safer than the deep stacks. Take more risks on the bubble and make it deeper into the tournaments! (but that's a whole other topic...)

Edited by tomboogy (Wednesday, February 22, 2012 @ 20:36 GMT)


     
  23-Feb-12, 13:36   #11
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Serpang 
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Posted by tomboogy:
You can all see your stats on various results tracking sites (I will not give links because I am not sure I am allowed). Nonetheless, they are free to use so feel free to search them and see/compare your stats with others as to see where you stand.

To be on topic, I'm ITM about 25% of the time, but consider the fact that I mainly play large field mtts and some sngs (the mtt/sng ratio I think it's about 75/25). Plus, at mtts u can be ITM 3% of the time, but if you take 1st in a large field mtt and don't make the money rest of the time you will still have a ROI of more than 100%....

edit: you can make the money in many mtts if you really want JUST that...by playing super safe and tight close to the bubble...but that won't be profitable in the long run.. Rather than that, you should look to put pressure on your opponents on the bubble, avoid the really big stacks (the best stacks to get in a hand with are the small-mid ones.. I'd say 20-30bb) because they don't have much room for maneuvers and usually tend to play safer than the deep stacks. Take more risks on the bubble and make it deeper into the tournaments! (but that's a whole other topic...)



Thanks for your tips ( ....other topic ). I know what you mean. I said it's typical style of play of Romanian and Bulgarian . But I need more explanation. What condition you take more risk on the bubble ? Good hand/ high card A, small/ medium suited connector ? or your INSTINCT when you take the risk ? Did you aware naturally Romanian and Bulgarian have good instinct in poker. They often win big pot with J5 os, Q3 os. I am not as well as you, so I need more explanation from you


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  23-Feb-12, 13:37   #12
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Fakiry 

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I fit myself in the 0 - 20 % segment, although I have had a great January, in which percent was over 70% a week (started month with $10 and ended with $100). Now I am again in a time of my life in which I can’t play as often as I would like, and that tends to be felt in my progress. Things don’t run as good as I would like, and I can’t go back the other day to do what I have to go against last day deficit. So now it’s more difficult, but I keep focused on the main objective of reaching $100 again.

     
  23-Feb-12, 14:23   #13
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tomboogy 

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I don't think ethnicity has anything to do with playing poker, although a lot of people think per example that russians are idiots and so on (sry no offence for the russians). What I ussually do on the bubble...if I'm big stack - I open a lot more with suited connectors and especially when there are tight/nit/weak players in the blinds..I often avoid confrontation with the other big stacks, rather I would seek to play with tight medium stacks.. Also, you have to take the blinds..but don't go overboard with the buton steal because the blinds will fight back if u do..still it's quite profitable..also, if the SB has smth like 10-15BB, or even less, and you're close to the money, allways shove on him..ok not always but somthing like 90% and it''s easy money. Also, Axs Kxs mid pairs and sometimes even small pairs vs loose late position openers are good for the squeeze from the blinds. Just don't go overboard with the 3bet allin ... choose your spots carefully. About the instinct thing...it's relative..When you have tens or hundreds of thousands of hands played..the experience kicks in Big Smile and helps with your decisions...you just have to pay attention to the table..you doon't want to 3bet light the fish/calling station of the table because then you WILL get called light and you'll be in a tough spot.

     
  24-Feb-12, 06:59   #14
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Serpang 
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Posted by tomboogy:
I don't think ethnicity has anything to do with playing poker, although a lot of people think per example that russians are idiots and so on (sry no offence for the russians). What I ussually do on the bubble...if I'm big stack - I open a lot more with suited connectors and especially when there are tight/nit/weak players in the blinds..I often avoid confrontation with the other big stacks, rather I would seek to play with tight medium stacks.. Also, you have to take the blinds..but don't go overboard with the buton steal because the blinds will fight back if u do..still it's quite profitable..also, if the SB has smth like 10-15BB, or even less, and you're close to the money, allways shove on him..ok not always but somthing like 90% and it''s easy money. Also, Axs Kxs mid pairs and sometimes even small pairs vs loose late position openers are good for the squeeze from the blinds. Just don't go overboard with the 3bet allin ... choose your spots carefully. About the instinct thing...it's relative..When you have tens or hundreds of thousands of hands played..the experience kicks in Big Smile and helps with your decisions...you just have to pay attention to the table..you doon't want to 3bet light the fish/calling station of the table because then you WILL get called light and you'll be in a tough spot.



That's all if you have big stack. How do you play with average and lowest stack ? ( still in bubble ).
Usually I just waiting : High card or suited connector then go all in ( if my stack lower than 20 BB ).
Terrible is that card didn't come and you get BB, what should you do ? all in with any card ? or all in before BB arrive to you ?. Thanks for sharing

     
  24-Feb-12, 15:25   #15
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tomboogy 

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10-15BB you really can't do anything...you need to search for spots like..opponent raises, usually 2-2.5x and u go allin from SB or BB with some kind of connector/small med pair/ A9s+.. the opponent must be capable to laydown his marginal hands. I've actually tried this yesterday: I've defended my blind more than I usually do and been hyper aggro on the bubble. If someone with a medium stack opened from LP I shoved on him with 10-15BB with a wider range than normal.. Cards like A2o, KTo, J9s, 56s and so on...but be weary that your hand, although maybe slightly better, tuns at this point into a bluff because you are representing so much stronger.
There are 2 things that you get with experience in poker: the ability to make big folds and the ability to make big calls -> in this case, the ability to call anothers 3bet shove light on the bubble. Play a lot, put some volume and you will get there... GL

     
  24-Feb-12, 16:49   #16
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Serpang 
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Thanks for sharing. Good luck

     
  21-Mar-12, 21:36   #17
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MrJBJ 
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0-20% Sad sometimes bot 100% sometimes bot 0% Big Smile but sum of all still 0-20 Confused

     
  22-Mar-12, 04:04   #18
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Serpang 
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Posted by MrJBJ:
0-20% Sad sometimes bot 100% sometimes bot 0% Big Smile but sum of all still 0-20 Confused


I made this thread cause I want to know, how many percent normally average player get prize.
I wrong make percentage pool, should be :

0 - 10 %
11 - 15 %
16 - 20 %
more than 20 %.

Why ? I think, and Jessthehuman said ITM 10% up is could be winning player, I trust him.
Depend on why we play MTT, If always same buy in, hard to be winning player, sometimes have to play at higher buy in ( in our lucky day ,of course ).

I am sure now, ITM 10 - 15 % is good achievment. So don't frustrating if you lost by bad beat or good beat ( lol )

How do you think ? please share Smile Smile

Edited by Serpang (Thursday, March 22, 2012 @ 04:09 GMT)


     
  22-Mar-12, 12:10   #19
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Chartoule 
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Hi guys!!

In the new pool, 0-10% ITM. In fact in all my history MTTs i´m around 9% ITM.

The % ITM isn´t important. The important is if we are +$$ or -$$. Some guys could be 50% ITM and lots $$$ down.

     
  22-Mar-12, 15:28   #20
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Serpang 
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Posted by Chartoule:
Hi guys!!

In the new pool, 0-10% ITM. In fact in all my history MTTs i'm around 9% ITM.

The % ITM isn't important. The important is if we are +$$ or -$$. Some guys could be 50% ITM and lots $$$ down.



Of course you right Chartoule. ITM just indicator how our play. If we just take a look our bankroll, decrease or increase we don't know how our performance play. cause if you win at MTT with higher than usual , of course our bankroll increase but that's didn't mean our play good as well. maybe we win just luck.So we need ITM to check

     
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