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  14-Mar-12, 16:04   #1
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roxypooch 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 34 (F)
Posts: 3
i have got to know on this site ,the hand i am going out with .after various tournaments i have came with the conclusion that is all fixed .few examples ; 5 to go to payed position AsAh with 12200 stacks
before blind , a guy raise the min. with 8000 stack i raise 4 times and he calls , flop Ad 3s 5c i bet the pot
and he goes all in , showdown he has 7s9s whats the chances ? turn 4s river 6s.
4200 left next hand KK same player goes all in 23 i call flop A45.
that's everytime i get closed to payed position and i only play those cards , 1 month played almost everyday i cannot belive this is not fixed.

     
  14-Mar-12, 17:05   #2
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 6197
Life of a rigtard is hard.
I support you guys.
Keep trying and be proud to be the rigtard Agree

     
  14-Mar-12, 20:56   #3
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DaCapo71 
Joined: Aug '10
Location: Germany
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 1707
Celeb Poker is a part of the iPoker network like Titan etc. and all these rooms use the same software. And you find crazy player at all online pokerrooms. Some players are without any plan but with a lot of luck.

     
  15-Mar-12, 00:51   #4
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uhhcallmi 

Joined: Mar '12
Location: Netherlands
Age: 43 (M)
Posts: 587
i suggest you players ,,start to devide your touranements,, into:

1 early (tournament just started) still able to registrate if ur not registered jet) mostly 45-60 minutes
2 middle ( late registration is not allowed anymore) mostly after 45-60 min.
3 ITM - in the money
4 late ( reach last 180 players)
5 extra late ( last 12-18 players)
6 u almost made it(time to open a bottle of wine) You reach the final table
7ultimate goal (try become at least 4rth place or better)

this is how i approach my tournaments.

and in all these different periods in the tournament, i play different.

for instance , you are almost ITM( nr3),, Be ready and willing to fold good hands
from pairs like 5-5, 6-6 up to even Q-Q depending on how many players are involved in pot
and how badly another playerswant to win that hand..how aggresive is he or they?

if u cant fold on these hand ,don't complain on getting bad beats or getting dominated.

some players play each hand they hold an ACE,(no mather what kicker) against these guys your doomed to get knocked out.
Why they play like that??

probably because they want to reach a comfortable position in tournament or even chipleader.
no mather how many tournaments they get busted ,
their goal is to win a big tournament,, so they play and they pay.

its a mather of mathematics... and enough hard cash

     
  15-Mar-12, 01:00   #5
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todd3311 

Joined: Aug '09
Location: Canada
Age: 45 (M)
Posts: 147
I SOOOOO AGREEEEE ITS FIXED IT HAS HAPPEN TO ME ONE TO MANY TIMES THERE

     
  15-Mar-12, 02:11   #6
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roxypooch 

Joined: Feb '12
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 34 (F)
Posts: 3
and just before i get into payed players , not an all in but they call any raise with any nonsense cards up to the end and almost everytime they hit the pot on the river

     
  15-Mar-12, 04:27   #7
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Serpang 
Joined: Jan '10
Location: Indonesia
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 1477
How much buy in did you play, roxy ? in small buy in, yes. many player just play base on luck ( or they know character of random system and they gamble ) . try to be extra carefully against them, play save and tight, you can beat him. And try s n g when get bad luck, they play better there than MTT.

     
  15-Mar-12, 09:50   #8
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi guys!!

roxypooch, this happens everyday in the hard microlimits. SnG, Cash or MTT. This fact don´t mean poker is rigged only that at more bad players (or moves, like some calls) more badbeats.

Think during a little time. Do you want to play vs these guys or vs real good players?

     
  15-Mar-12, 09:55   #9
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evercalm 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: Lithuania
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 10
it's a matter of iPoker network sites. I was pissed off up to 15 times in a row when edging paid position. Always with 90% ods before river... Wherever - PaddyPower, Expekt, Celeb, etc. Sometimes I'm lucky too but decisional rivers are happening here far more often than must be by theory.

However if i am reaching some withdrawable ammount on ANY site it happens again and again. Hundreds of SnG and MTTs just watching jerks are getting run-run straights, flushes, sets with 92, T5, Q3, etc ... off suite.Reraising. In any position.

So in general it is not about Celeb or iPoker Smile How to avoid it: deposit. Even if that will be minimum you will get few weeks without typical online tricks. Cash out and come back not earlier than half of a year... Or deposit n x 1000 $ and play buy-ins >20$. on-line poker respects only big money.

If you cannot make 100 in 2 weeks from 20 deposited - forget on-line poker. take some beer with friends in pub Big Smile

     
  15-Mar-12, 10:31   #10
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SuperpokefA 
Joined: Jun '10
Location: Belgium
Age: 50 (M)
Posts: 178
Hey Roxypooch, s**t happens they say.
You don't have to blame yourself, if you think you've played the hand correctly.
There are a lot of fishy players who call a raise with any suited cards or any Ace.
On Titan Poker (also member of the ipoker network) i lost a hand recently on a cash game
with AcAd against 8h3h. I openraised from UTG1 and he called my raise. On the flop (Ah8c3s rainbow) he 3betted my raise so i thought he had a pair of 8's or 3's. The chance that he had an ace was small & did not put him on a 83 even he was a fish. He couldn't have a flush draw so I went all in. He called off course and 2 more hearts came on the table making him a flush.
Did I play bad ? On the flop i had 95% chance of winning the pot if he had a pair of 8's or 3's .
Did he play bad ? Well his preflop call was bad but on the flop he had 62.7% chance of winning the pot if he put me on a AQs+, AKo or Aces.

Are poker sites rigged. No they aren't. You've just had bad luck.

     
  15-Mar-12, 13:20   #11
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
Age: 37 (M)
Posts: 4764
My deposit bonus in celebpoker last only for a few hours, summing all the time I played there I think it was less than half day, that I just couldn’t even take any conclusion about how was the game there. Truth is: things went really bad and probably it wasn’t just my fault. There are some places where we will never get together all the factors that turns us into winners, that is what I conclude. I don’t blame anyone, it is beyond us and, perhaps, also beyond the online rooms.

     
  15-Mar-12, 13:47   #12
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by todd3311:
I SOOOOO AGREEEEE ITS FIXED IT HAS HAPPEN TO ME ONE TO MANY TIMES THERE


LOL - you think every site is fixed, because you are terrible at poker..

OP - you are clearly terrible at poker as well..

I'm pretty smashed right now AND I am thinking about the thread about being too hard on rigtards.. But f**k it.. ya know.. You're all just pathetic. Seriously, just pathetic human beings. Really, just so hopeless.

It makes me so angry, grown adults who simply cannot get a grip on reality. I wish there was words to express just how utterly pathetic and despicable I think you lot are. Just gross. When I think about the amount of time I have spent reading strategy, evolving my game, learning - continually studying and improving my poker mind. And you lot - just make zero effort - rather than take any personal responsibility at all its just a constant "Oh it can't be me, it's never me, I can't lose, obviously it's fixed, I can't lose, must be fixed, it's never me, surely I am the greatest, obviously I can't be bad at poker - it must be that everyone in the world is actually in some grand conspiracy to steal my $20 no deposit bonus - yeah, that must be it, no possible way that I am actually just s**t at poker.. I am the f**king greatest. If it wasn't rigged - I'd easily be a billionaire by now.

Seriously, all you rigtards are simply disgusting. When I read your pathetic dribble, I actually want to vomit. despite all the evidence against the crap that you idiots write, you STILL continue to cling to your dumbass ideas. Just.. ugh.. such pathetic human beings. I really.. just wish .. even for an hour.. you lot could see what losers you actually are.. Not just, literally - that you lose. But also in the more general sense of the word 'losers'. Just failing. At life, at poker - at being a decent human being.

Just.. so gross.

     
  15-Mar-12, 13:51   #13
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mascona 

Joined: Jun '08
Location: Poland
Age: 76 (M)
Posts: 537
jessthehuman , good that you are a big winner.....just saw your statistics .... LOL Worship Worship Worship
U RULZZZ.. omfg what a muppet.

     
  15-Mar-12, 14:56   #14
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jessthehuman 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Australia
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 6441
Posted by mascona:
jessthehuman , good that you are a big winner.....just saw your statistics .... LOL Worship Worship Worship
U RULZZZ.. omfg what a muppet.


what are you even on about?

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What statistics are you even talking about?

I'm no pro, if you've read my threads I've said a million times before - I'm a hopeless degen - I play drunk, high, tired, no bankroll management, etc.

The difference between me and you is; I don't blame the site - I'm self-aware enough to assess myself and actually find and figure out my own flaws - rather than just blaming anyone other than myself.

     
  15-Mar-12, 16:41   #15
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
Age: 27 (M)
Posts: 6668
Unfortunately this kind of things happen on all poker platforms out there and frankly there is nothing you can do about it...

The best advice i could give you is to play on bankroll, this way these bad beats won't affect you that much Blink

     
  15-Mar-12, 16:50   #16
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doomdy 

Joined: May '08
Location: Netherlands
Age: 46 (M)
Posts: 6197
Posted by jessthehuman:
Posted by todd3311:
I SOOOOO AGREEEEE ITS FIXED IT HAS HAPPEN TO ME ONE TO MANY TIMES THERE


LOL - you think every site is fixed, because you are terrible at poker..

OP - you are clearly terrible at poker as well..

I'm pretty smashed right now AND I am thinking about the thread about being too hard on rigtards.. But f**k it.. ya know.. You're all just pathetic. Seriously, just pathetic human beings. Really, just so hopeless.

It makes me so angry, grown adults who simply cannot get a grip on reality. I wish there was words to express just how utterly pathetic and despicable I think you lot are. Just gross. When I think about the amount of time I have spent reading strategy, evolving my game, learning - continually studying and improving my poker mind. And you lot - just make zero effort - rather than take any personal responsibility at all its just a constant "Oh it can't be me, it's never me, I can't lose, obviously it's fixed, I can't lose, must be fixed, it's never me, surely I am the greatest, obviously I can't be bad at poker - it must be that everyone in the world is actually in some grand conspiracy to steal my $20 no deposit bonus - yeah, that must be it, no possible way that I am actually just s**t at poker.. I am the f**king greatest. If it wasn't rigged - I'd easily be a billionaire by now.

Seriously, all you rigtards are simply disgusting. When I read your pathetic dribble, I actually want to vomit. despite all the evidence against the crap that you idiots write, you STILL continue to cling to your dumbass ideas. Just.. ugh.. such pathetic human beings. I really.. just wish .. even for an hour.. you lot could see what losers you actually are.. Not just, literally - that you lose. But also in the more general sense of the word 'losers'. Just failing. At life, at poker - at being a decent human being.

Just.. so gross.


LMAO +1 Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

     
  15-Mar-12, 16:52   #17
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pochui 

Joined: May '08
Location: Lithuania
Age: 32 (M)
Posts: 8628
rigged not rigged- you will not know this unless you are the one who is creating these schemes yourself. but the fact that some dude is going all in with all sort of crap doesn't mean that he has unreal powers- he maybe lost way more at the higher stakes, is totally on tilt and just keeps shipping the cash with any cards- sure he gets lucky from time to time, but i doubt that he is on a winning sequence Blink

     
  15-Mar-12, 21:27   #18
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evercalm 
Joined: Mar '10
Location: Lithuania
Age: 53 (M)
Posts: 10
jessthehuman feels so fine no blaming online sites. Playmng " hopeless degen - I play drunk, high, tired, no bankroll management, etc." Big brother lovers never dissapear. You think someone above 40 is usless grandpa?? I have M.S. degree in physic and definitely know the ods of any card configuration. The only pathetic tard is YOU here. bye bye and continue play drunk, high, tired, no bankroll management, etc

Diamond

     
  15-Mar-12, 21:46   #19
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liberesto 
Joined: Dec '10
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 34
I strongly suspect it is all rigged, go tell the feds Smile

     
  15-Mar-12, 21:50   #20
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SuperNoob 

Joined: May '09
Location: India
Age: 30 (M)
Posts: 4873
Posted by evercalm:
I have M.S. degree in physic and definitely know the ods of any card configuration.

thats where you are wrong
when analysing a data to see if its within limits, you dont refer to odds or probabilities but u use statistics.
it's a matter of variance not odds.
since u are a MS i guess u wud also know that to make any conclusion you need a non-biased representative sample and then it has to be proven with tests of significance that there is significant difference to consider the site as rigged.
its basic science that you dont make these kinda conclusions based on observation alone.

     
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