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  22-Mar-12, 16:56   #1
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B1gfoot 

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Osbourne said that the current duty regime for remote gambling introduced by the last government was levied on a place of supply basis and that this had allowed overseas operators to “largely avoid it – and much of the industry has, as result, moved offshore”.
“Ninety per cent of online gaming in the UK consumed by our citizens is now supplied from outside the UK. And the remaining UK operations are under pressure to leave”

He will also introduce double taxation relief for UK-based online gambling operators from next month. "These changes will create a more level playing field, and protect jobs here," (which
is actually true, shocking)

Also a new "Machine Games Duty" with a standard rate of 20%, lower rate for low stakes and 5% of net takings.

So another licence needed soon for the UK market.

     
  22-Mar-12, 18:13   #2
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sadamman 

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So is this basically just a step toward us being like the U.S. as usual Question

     
  22-Mar-12, 19:05   #3
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
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So far United Kingdom was great for all us players that wanted to play but now it seems this will change pretty soon...

Such a shame to see that govs all over the world can't find other problems to solve other than online gambling Thumbs Down Thumbs Down Thumbs Down

     
  22-Mar-12, 21:11   #4
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DaCapo71 
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Lol they all say they want protect the players but in real they want their money. Its always the same, at first the large tax for the casinos and now they want the money from the online poker rooms and casinos.

     
  23-Mar-12, 00:01   #5
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Greenmohave 

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Actually itmay cost players some money when withdrawing, but at least they're not shutting down sites first then attempting to make the changes or implement new tax laws. The U.S. should have allowed the sites like FT to continue to operate, work with them so they could pay back whatever the fines are while still making an income. I could be wrong, but the UK are at least letting everyone know ahead of time instead of holding everything.

     
  23-Mar-12, 09:36   #6
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mahdrof 

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Posted by Greenmohave:
Actually itmay cost players some money when withdrawing, but at least they're not shutting down sites first then attempting to make the changes or implement new tax laws. The U.S. should have allowed the sites like FT to continue to operate, work with them so they could pay back whatever the fines are while still making an income. I could be wrong, but the UK are at least letting everyone know ahead of time instead of holding everything.


The difference is that in the United States these sites were operating contrary to the law (whether or not people agreed with that law is a different matter), and finding ways to circumvent the law. So when the DOJ got a hold of someone who was willing to rat it out they had a way to shut the whole thing down.

Governments are the biggest promoters of casinos, lotteries and gambling, so these online companies need to figure it out with the politicians or they will be squeezed out completely.

     
  23-Mar-12, 10:05   #7
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Flippedchips 

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so are they taxing your winnings or just the company?

     
  23-Mar-12, 10:48   #8
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B1gfoot 

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Posted by Flippedchips:
so are they taxing your winnings or just the company?

Well, that's a loaded question, I guess companies will just increase fees to cover costs, so we pay, but not on paper, as then we could of set our losses against earnings.
As bad is it seams, its actually good, as UK operators wont need to take business of shore, but I do believe sooner or later it will be a UK only, and when they can they will tax winnings too, but not for now.

     
  23-Mar-12, 13:47   #9
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Fakiry 

Joined: Apr '09
Location: Portugal
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Posts: 4764
That is positive. It is certain that UK will advance with those licenses and players only have to win with that. Having these games paying taxes will also move Govt to know if their activity is rule by the law, so, sooner or later, rigged online poker will be just a legend from old times.

     
  23-Mar-12, 14:10   #10
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Chartoule 
Joined: May '09
Location: Spain
Age: 41 (M)
Posts: 1261
Hi guys!!

All countries will have taxes in gambling sooner or later. The sad is when some laws make more difficult to the player continue playing. As some legislations do with the segregation.

     
  23-Mar-12, 16:37   #11
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Mober 
Joined: Mar '09
Location: Greece
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Posts: 10021
They are just jumping up the train that cruises around lately.
Not the first country or the last that will follow such measures.
And the thing is that they all have the excuse fo doing it for the good of their citizens.
How good is for me to get something for free and then pay tax for it?

     
  23-Mar-12, 19:13   #12
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Macubaas 
Joined: Apr '11
Location: Romania
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Still, i also want to mention that UK will imposit the poker platform directly, not the people as many govs around the world want to do...

In a way it's fair since the poker company makes money(rake) from the money that the people of a certain country play.

     
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